KES2 171 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Interesting answers -anyone heard of Karma ? If you would kill for a million you might kill for 100,000, your morality has already been established - you are just negotiating on the cost. Never, is the right answer; even if morality doesnt guide your choice, it might be you who commits suicide, even if you dont die as a result of the red button. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Interesting answers -anyone heard of Karma ? If you would kill for a million you might kill for 100,000, your morality has already been established - you are just negotiating on the cost. Never, is the right answer; even if morality doesnt guide your choice, it might be you who commits suicide, even if you dont die as a result of the red button. Never is your answer. Surely there can't be a right or wrong answer. Everyone's different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,707 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 boom give us the dollar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,141 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Yes I'm seriously comparing the two because at the end of the day they're both pushing a button and killing a stranger . Just because ones getting paid by their government and the other doing for personal financial gain . Contract killers or soldiers both killing strangers one for their government oil or money and the other for money for their own gain . By the way I'm not a contract killer no beed for that gnash just playing devils advocate We grant soldiers a certain amount of leeway as we accept their job is difficult and dangerous......for which they get a fairly low annual wage......what on earth has that ( or boxing ) got to do with cowardly killing an innocent person for a quick easy million ?.....it sounds like you are manipulating the question to suit your answer mate. No you are not a contract killer but then you havent had the opportunity you said it yourself if someone was going to pay you a million quid to press a button and kill somebody you didnt know you would do it......so my mrs has an affair,i want a bit of payback so i place an explosive device under her car and offer you a million quid to press a button that will set it off......how is that scenario any different to the original question a man can either be bought or he cant. You still on this lolRight I know you're not gonna take someone else's opinion or point of view but I'll explain it again . Right the question was push a button and some you don't know will die and you get £££ and thats it . So my question was how is it any different from a person pushing a button for personnel gain and a soldier pushing a button because a government told you it was ok . At the end of the day its a bloke be it a civilian or a soldier it's still a bloke pushing a button and a stranger is still dying . So by your logic the nazi that dropped bombs on the east end ( still someone pushing a button) and killing women and children is ok a bit of leewaylol " still on this "....from someone who said they wasnt going to try to convince anyone ! I,ll take your opinion i just dont agree with it thats how debates work.....the question was not about doing a job of work for a weekly wage it was about a quick easy pay off that takes absolutely no courage,no hard work and no commitment.....so you would press a button to get a million but you wouldnt be a soldier all your life to get the same million ?.....kind of says everything !......look im not saying your wrong i dont think there is a right and wrong you find it acceptable to be bought within your life and i dont find it acceptable within my life thats all we,re all made different. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,757 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Yes I'm seriously comparing the two because at the end of the day they're both pushing a button and killing a stranger . Just because ones getting paid by their government and the other doing for personal financial gain . Contract killers or soldiers both killing strangers one for their government oil or money and the other for money for their own gain . By the way I'm not a contract killer no beed for that gnash just playing devils advocate We grant soldiers a certain amount of leeway as we accept their job is difficult and dangerous......for which they get a fairly low annual wage......what on earth has that ( or boxing ) got to do with cowardly killing an innocent person for a quick easy million ?.....it sounds like you are manipulating the question to suit your answer mate. No you are not a contract killer but then you havent had the opportunity you said it yourself if someone was going to pay you a million quid to press a button and kill somebody you didnt know you would do it......so my mrs has an affair,i want a bit of payback so i place an explosive device under her car and offer you a million quid to press a button that will set it off......how is that scenario any different to the original question a man can either be bought or he cant. You still on this lolRight I know you're not gonna take someone else's opinion or point of view but I'll explain it again . Right the question was push a button and some you don't know will die and you get £££ and thats it . So my question was how is it any different from a person pushing a button for personnel gain and a soldier pushing a button because a government told you it was ok . At the end of the day its a bloke be it a civilian or a soldier it's still a bloke pushing a button and a stranger is still dying . So by your logic the nazi that dropped bombs on the east end ( still someone pushing a button) and killing women and children is ok a bit of leewaylol " still on this "....from someone who said they wasnt going to try to convince anyone ! I,ll take your opinion i just dont agree with it thats how debates work.....the question was not about doing a job of work for a weekly wage it was about a quick easy pay off that takes absolutely no courage,no hard work and no commitment.....so you would press a button to get a million but you wouldnt be a soldier all your life to get the same million ?.....kind of says everything !......look im not saying your wrong i dont think there is a right and wrong you find it acceptable to be bought within your life and i dont find it acceptable within my life thats all we,re all made different. fair point ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,141 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 At the end of the day everyone has their price, anyone says otherwise are kidding themselves.I can guarantee I wouldn't kill a random for no reason not matter hiw much you offered me. The price you can be bought for doesn't have to be money, it can be your own life or a life of a loved one, it takes a hell of a lot of principles to see a loved one die in front of you when you could push the button and stop it. That's a totally different situation and it's not for personal gain. It's keeping what you have. Nothing like being bought It isn't for personal gain but it is to not have personal loss, It's different but not totally different, your actions effect you positively (1mil) at someone else's expense, or your actions doesn't effect you negatively ( bereavement put off ) at someone else expense. The biggest difference is how you dress it up to live with yourself, someone else has to go through the same loss you saved yourself from going through which is why I stand by my statement, everyone has their price and to be fair I think most everyone's price is the saving of a loved one. Survival creates a whole different type of hunger to greed mate its a logical comparison you are making but not a fair one in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mud 2,044 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) ............ Edited December 10, 2016 by mud Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,141 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Interesting answers -anyone heard of Karma ? If you would kill for a million you might kill for 100,000, your morality has already been established - you are just negotiating on the cost. Never, is the right answer; even if morality doesnt guide your choice, it might be you who commits suicide, even if you dont die as a result of the red button. Never is your answer. Surely there can't be a right or wrong answer. Everyone's different. I agree its a question that if we,re being honest and realistic the answer will be different for all of us its a very similar question to being asked would you grass for a million hence i joked earlier on saying you watch how many people will own up to that little scenario....not one !....but then theres more stigma attached to sending a person to jail for monetary reward than there is killing a person for monetary reward its a macho thing but the harsh reality is both can be bought so neither can be trusted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Interesting answers -anyone heard of Karma ? If you would kill for a million you might kill for 100,000, your morality has already been established - you are just negotiating on the cost. Never, is the right answer; even if morality doesnt guide your choice, it might be you who commits suicide, even if you dont die as a result of the red button. Never is your answer. Surely there can't be a right or wrong answer. Everyone's different. I agree its a question that if we,re being honest and realistic the answer will be different for all of us its a very similar question to being asked would you grass for a million hence i joked earlier on saying you watch how many people will own up to that little scenario....not one !....but then theres more stigma attached to sending a person to jail for monetary reward than there is killing a person for monetary reward its a macho thing but the harsh reality is both can be bought so neither can be trusted. But would that mean that that anyone that does something for money has been bought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Anyone contemplating pressing a button knowing some innocent will die to make themselfs Rich deserves all the bad luck in the world. Be nice at the moment they pressed the button for greed the person to loose their life was revealed ' no going back and it was their mother . How would that grab them ??????? The question was "someone you don't know". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,060 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Interesting answers -anyone heard of Karma ? If you would kill for a million you might kill for 100,000, your morality has already been established - you are just negotiating on the cost. Never, is the right answer; even if morality doesnt guide your choice, it might be you who commits suicide, even if you dont die as a result of the red button. Never is your answer. Surely there can't be a right or wrong answer. Everyone's different. I agree its a question that if we,re being honest and realistic the answer will be different for all of us its a very similar question to being asked would you grass for a million hence i joked earlier on saying you watch how many people will own up to that little scenario....not one !....but then theres more stigma attached to sending a person to jail for monetary reward than there is killing a person for monetary reward its a macho thing but the harsh reality is both can be bought so neither can be trusted. But would that mean that that anyone that does something for money has been bought. IMHO No mate, if you are doing work it's normally a mutually beneficial thing.......whatever that work may be. You do something for them and they do something for you type thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Interesting answers -anyone heard of Karma ? If you would kill for a million you might kill for 100,000, your morality has already been established - you are just negotiating on the cost. Never, is the right answer; even if morality doesnt guide your choice, it might be you who commits suicide, even if you dont die as a result of the red button. Never is your answer. Surely there can't be a right or wrong answer. Everyone's different. I agree its a question that if we,re being honest and realistic the answer will be different for all of us its a very similar question to being asked would you grass for a million hence i joked earlier on saying you watch how many people will own up to that little scenario....not one !....but then theres more stigma attached to sending a person to jail for monetary reward than there is killing a person for monetary reward its a macho thing but the harsh reality is both can be bought so neither can be trusted. But would that mean that that anyone that does something for money has been bought. IMHO No mate, if you are doing work it's normally a mutually beneficial thing.......whatever that work may be. You do something for them and they do something for you type thing. But you would be doing something for the man with the button and he would be doing something for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Press a button and a little kid wakes up and their mam or dad is dead and they'll never see them again, I couldnt take that chance for ten times the money 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,141 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Interesting answers -anyone heard of Karma ? If you would kill for a million you might kill for 100,000, your morality has already been established - you are just negotiating on the cost. Never, is the right answer; even if morality doesnt guide your choice, it might be you who commits suicide, even if you dont die as a result of the red button. Never is your answer. Surely there can't be a right or wrong answer. Everyone's different. I agree its a question that if we,re being honest and realistic the answer will be different for all of us its a very similar question to being asked would you grass for a million hence i joked earlier on saying you watch how many people will own up to that little scenario....not one !....but then theres more stigma attached to sending a person to jail for monetary reward than there is killing a person for monetary reward its a macho thing but the harsh reality is both can be bought so neither can be trusted. But would that mean that that anyone that does something for money has been bought. If you believe cleaning someones windows or plastering someones wall for financial gain is acceptable then no you have not been bought. If you believe being a spineless rat and killing a random person without getting your hands dirty for a quick pay off is acceptable then no you have not been bought. We all live by our own interpretation of acceptable. Whats the name of this film anyway ? Edited December 8, 2016 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,141 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I think a lot of the old fuckers on here would of pressed it if they were back in there day prob going back 30 years ago if asked the same question atb mud As a very aggressive and reasonably capable young lad doing all sorts of things chasing money 30 years ago i frequently had carrots dangled in front of me i didnt sell out on myself then and i wouldnt now i dont think you can learn to be a rat your either capable of it or your not. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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