jake824 517 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Your asking for trouble having 3 terriers of any breed off lose FD not just Beddies ATB RT happens when you have bushing terriers bushing There are Bedlingtons and then there are other Bedlingtons.In over 30 years ive never lost terriers entering as pairs and have purposely entered them at times,ive lost my share of individuals entering.The main things to take into consideration,know the lie of the land and know your charges and how they work,alone or together. hi can i ask why you would enter two dogs to ground is there something to be gained by this, personally i think it causes more problems than it cures. At times it happens as a result of the terriers bushing ahead of you,at other times ive extracted a fox or many more out of massive rock piles,terriers entered at different spots and working different parts of the pile,sometimes the same fox eventually.It does cause problems and thats a fact,a terrier pushing another on or chewing its arse.Another fact i find is that 2 is often better than one.I know my mutts and ive never had a major problem working mine this way,ever.It was once common practice,especially in the Dales and Fells when terrier folk knew their trade,its frowned upon now by the majority.Are terrier folk more learned now ?.its not frowned upon its just not done mate. Terriers should enter stay and be dug to single handed. No ifs no buts no excuses 4 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Your asking for trouble having 3 terriers of any breed off lose FD not just Beddies ATB RT happens when you have bushing terriers bushingThere are Bedlingtons and then there are other Bedlingtons.In over 30 years ive never lost terriers entering as pairs and have purposely entered them at times,ive lost my share of individuals entering.The main things to take into consideration,know the lie of the land and know your charges and how they work,alone or together. hi can i ask why you would enter two dogs to ground is there something to be gained by this, personally i think it causes more problems than it cures. At times it happens as a result of the terriers bushing ahead of you,at other times ive extracted a fox or many more out of massive rock piles,terriers entered at different spots and working different parts of the pile,sometimes the same fox eventually.It does cause problems and thats a fact,a terrier pushing another on or chewing its arse.Another fact i find is that 2 is often better than one.I know my mutts and ive never had a major problem working mine this way,ever.It was once common practice,especially in the Dales and Fells when terrier folk knew their trade,its frowned upon now by the majority.Are terrier folk more learned now ?.its not frowned upon its just not done mate. Terriers should enter stay and be dug to single handed. No ifs no buts no excuses Another example of the kennels terriers reside in now,throw a fat mute dog in,get the bleeper out and dig.Geez. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Your asking for trouble having 3 terriers of any breed off lose FD not just Beddies ATB RT happens when you have bushing terriers bushingThere are Bedlingtons and then there are other Bedlingtons.In over 30 years ive never lost terriers entering as pairs and have purposely entered them at times,ive lost my share of individuals entering.The main things to take into consideration,know the lie of the land and know your charges and how they work,alone or together. hi can i ask why you would enter two dogs to ground is there something to be gained by this, personally i think it causes more problems than it cures. At times it happens as a result of the terriers bushing ahead of you,at other times ive extracted a fox or many more out of massive rock piles,terriers entered at different spots and working different parts of the pile,sometimes the same fox eventually.It does cause problems and thats a fact,a terrier pushing another on or chewing its arse.Another fact i find is that 2 is often better than one.I know my mutts and ive never had a major problem working mine this way,ever.It was once common practice,especially in the Dales and Fells when terrier folk knew their trade,its frowned upon now by the majority.Are terrier folk more learned now ?.its not frowned upon its just not done mate. Terriers should enter stay and be dug to single handed. No ifs no buts no excuses How do you dig to a terrier when you cannot dig to it Einstein?. Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 And how do you dig to yours when you treble up and none of em will stay hence why u can keep them off the lead. 1 Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Bushing dogs that will do half hour to ground accompanied are a far cry from single handed digging dogs. If mine are fat and mute I can live with that but I'm afraid we have different views on terriers. 3 Quote Link to post
ziggy 619 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Jake824 it's different dogs for different ground.. when you work the quarrys you don't want a mute dog on the piles as you carnt here out, an you carnt dig most of the place . But some folk on here will slag each other off especially when they no nothing of the ground others hunt.. Must be a pleasure to have nothing but soil earths to dig ..as some folk arnt that lucky .. You have to work your dogs whichever suites the ground you work.. 3 Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Jake824 it's different dogs for different ground.. when you work the quarrys you don't want a mute dog on the piles as you carnt here out, an you carnt dig most of the place . But some folk on here will slag each other off especially when they no nothing of the ground others hunt.. Must be a pleasure to have nothing but soil earths to dig ..as some folk arnt that lucky .. You have to work your dogs whichever suites the ground you work..i m well aware of rock piles and quarry faces I ve kept terriers for long enough. I don t keep mute dogs either, that was morton s opinion on myself. I m not slagging anyone off either I just don t see why multiple terriers are entered. So do you double and treble dogs yourself ? 2 Quote Link to post
ziggy 619 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I have always worked dogs single handed myself but alot of the lads round me always worked two or three terriers in rocks or pit holes. Quote Link to post
super d 85 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 lads its all about results at the end of the day . What works for one man might not suit the other man . We learn stuff every time we are out with the terriers because you might dig a spot one way one day and totally the opposite the next its why we love it so much . Let the man learn let the man fail but I know one thing we will be back the next day to do it all again drive and boys and keep hunting Quote Link to post
downsview 448 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Main reason terriers worked single handed now is the locator,better off for it too.Never worked massive rock piles so I don't know if numbers of terriers entered is the done thing or not. Edited December 5, 2016 by downsview Quote Link to post
Treehands. 1,379 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Terriers were used single handed before the locator . Locators allow mute dogs to work single handed. The only difference between then and now is Better ...Standards. 3 Quote Link to post
downsview 448 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Terriers were used single handed before the locator .Locators allow mute dogs to work single handed. The only difference between then and now is Better ...Standards.[/quote Was a lot more common before locators to enter more than one jmho Quote Link to post
downsview 448 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Most often had foxes in tight places when they've been run in by a lurcher,most fox earth's I've found a terrier can work without to much of a squeeze,dug a fox that had pushed in so tight it had suffocated Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 So thanks to locators the terrier has never been in such a strong position. Being used single handed and dug to a conclusion everytime. I'd say we're blessed to have such things as the Bellmans. Quote Link to post
downsview 448 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) So thanks to locators the terrier has never been in such a strong position. Being used single handed and dug to a conclusion everytime. I'd say we're blessed to have such things as the Bellmans. Terriers still has to find and stay it's not all about the locator,locators just an aid to the diggers terriers still has to be up to the job Edited December 5, 2016 by downsview 3 Quote Link to post
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