ginger beard 4,652 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 blacky13 if you want to P.M me your number i'll send some photo's over when i take them. Quote Link to post
craigo 137 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Bull greyhound saluki whippet. 14 month old can't fault her up to now. 3 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,885 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Stiffmeister my dog is a bull cross as I said not as you said Whatever, anyway , you look like you do a bit with the dog so FairPlay . Good luck in the rest of the season , that's all that matters 1 Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 How has your bitch turned out ginger beard 100% on edibles,great stamina,fast,bomb proof,good catch rate,great with the kids,great in the house,clean and everything good with her but she won't ever be a vermin dog but nether the less a pleasure to take out. As long as she has her uses and you're happy with her. Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,342 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I can only completely disagree with you on almost every point there Stiffy...I know your a bull fan my friend so I'd be very interested in your viewpoint as yours is one of the opinions I enjoy reading most on here ......how do you see the bull xs place in the hunting theatre? I must add though that I really like a dash of bull in a dog, I like that edge it brings to the party , and I think it tidies up the hybrid both mentally and physically Although I could probably never justify the ownership of a sole bull x greyhound , I do appreciate their capabilities I simply see bull crosses no different than any other lurcher cross and have always disliked the fact that they warrant there own class at most shows. To me they are as much a lurcher as any other. They are as 'all round' as any other cross.If the half crosses i owned could take rat, rabbit, hare, fox and deer, as well as ferret and hunt up, why would they not be a lurcher? I agree with Ketchum with the sledge hammer line but pre-ban, if you hunted foxes then get the best dog for the job but that dont mean its a one trick pony! No different than wanting a dog to kill hares regular and buying in a saluki cross. Borderline bullmastiff, like that, same as calling collie crosses sheepdogs and bedlingtons poodles. A real bullcross is about as far away from a bullmastiff as you could get. Ok, so to 2016... For me those long haul nights all over the country are over BUT there are still many that are as keen on that game as folk have ever been (and long may that be so) and for that game the bull bloods rule supreme and i'm sure many of those same dogs are catching a whole load of other quarry too, just as any good lurcher should. Great reply as expected from a knowledgeable guy Those from a certain era remember the long journey posts and the guys doing it. Some were even fortunate to also taste the red bull nectar and be absolutely knackered on the Saturday afterwards However by the by, you were a bull man from the start If I remember correctly . You were probably fortunate enough to be exposed to good dogs but more importantly good owners who knew the score with breeding , rearing and entering Of all the lurcher breeds I find the bull the most infuriating , not the dog but the owners, it seems to stir something inside people to own a dog that is easily conditioned and is assured to put up a good showing on a range of quarry. For example a close friend of mine owned two corkers, absolute terminators on the beam at all things vulpine, but at a hare, they didn't have three runs a night between them. Compare this to a young lad I grew up who had a lovely fawn saluki bull greyhound , probably the only dog I've ever seen who you could honestly 100% say could kill anything you came across in the uk day or night, was it the bull blood or the top coursing line in its DNA ? Who knows but I suspect the gears it was given from its fen blood that allowed it to bring the shaker blood to its quarry that held the key what makes you think that a bull cross is any easier to condition than any other breed?If a proper bull cross is conditioned properly it will be plenty capable of running 3 hares on the lamp punch ran many day time hares at good places always killed one ,was he one off na just weight cut and conditioned . He was no one off I had a bitch bred down from those lines that could kill 2 and three on some days winter time fact . atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
C.green 3,231 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) This may sound better in my head . But I never really see the bull cross as a lurcher as such To me a lurcher is an all round hunting dog. The word to me brings memories of me as a kid with my pals and our dogs lurching around in rough spots and railway lines near our town I never see the need for something with the build of a rugby league player being essential in the hunting world For a youngster starting off in the game . A bull cross is a great starting point with their carry on regardless attitude being great for early success on the part of both the tyro hunter and the hound itself...but I'd like to think at some point . The hunter matures in himself enough to move onto other things Don't think I'm a bull hater, far from it, and for the foxing man , or keen digger a handy bull cross is worth its often considerable weight in sovereigns . It's just my own belief that for the roustabout hunter, a borderline bullmastiff is not exactly the weapon of choice in my eyes , theres always going to be that macho need for them when in reality they are literally overkill maybe it sounded better in my head than typed, but for me they are not a lurcher, rather a stand alone type Ive got to disagree with you there I had a bull x around me for years and it done everything a lurcher can do I've put the pics up here before would catch roe and hares retrieve anything small live without a mark retrieve stuff from water mark and catch bolted rabbits hit a hedge ratting digging a fox didn't last long with it at all If a run went over a minute he'd start to fade slightly but 5 mins rest he was ready to go again I miss the dog and would swap the lurcher I have now to have that dog from a pup again ?? Also there's a bull x down here killing hares regular it's best is 17 in a night infront of loads of lads Edited November 29, 2016 by C.green 2 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,885 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 This may sound better in my head . But I never really see the bull cross as a lurcher as such To me a lurcher is an all round hunting dog. The word to me brings memories of me as a kid with my pals and our dogs lurching around in rough spots and railway lines near our town I never see the need for something with the build of a rugby league player being essential in the hunting world For a youngster starting off in the game . A bull cross is a great starting point with their carry on regardless attitude being great for early success on the part of both the tyro hunter and the hound itself...but I'd like to think at some point . The hunter matures in himself enough to move onto other things Don't think I'm a bull hater, far from it, and for the foxing man , or keen digger a handy bull cross is worth its often considerable weight in sovereigns . It's just my own belief that for the roustabout hunter, a borderline bullmastiff is not exactly the weapon of choice in my eyes , theres always going to be that macho need for them when in reality they are literally overkill maybe it sounded better in my head than typed, but for me they are not a lurcher, rather a stand alone type Ive got to disagree with you there I had a bull x around me for years and it done everything a lurcher can do I've put the pics up here before would catch roe and hares retrieve anything small live without a mark retrieve stuff from water mark and catch bolted rabbits hit a hedge ratting digging a fox didn't last long with it at all If a run went over a minute he'd start to fade slightly but 5 mins rest he was ready to go again I miss the dog and would swap the lurcher I have now to have that dog from a pup again Also there's a bull x down here killing hares regular it's best is 17 in a night infront of loads of lads Very interesting to read that Maybe the rearing and exposure you put to the dog allowed it to become an all rounder , perhaps if a few others did the same it would open my eyes to it As I stated , I'm still very much a cynic of their lurching capabilities Can I ask what was the breeding of the dog ? Quote Link to post
C.green 3,231 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Maybe I personally think it was down to not bieng scared to run the dog a lot. I'd take it coursing with lads local and slip it on anything they didn't fancy didn't care how far away it was. Trying to test the dog constantly trying to find that weakness. As already said there fitness and the way there fed is key. dont know much about breeding but it was bull and grey nowt else. And would sing like a canary if it chased anything through cover. 2 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,512 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Got a bullx pup here now and trying to introduce her to all sorts of lurcher work she's 11 months and caught a few rabbits on the lamp and been retrieved live to hand ! I think your right C green some people are scared to try there bullx at certain things it's a lurcher at the end of the day it should be able to do abit of everything 1 Quote Link to post
FKOF 371 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Somebody drop Morton a pm and give him a night out with a good bull Xs,poor sod hasn't seen one yet .... I dropped the lemon a pm few months back when he was giving it large about bushers, guess what no reply wanted to run my pup against his best busher lol 2 Quote Link to post
green dragon 701 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) Somebody drop Morton a pm and give him a night out with a good bull Xs,poor sod hasn't seen one yet ....I dropped the lemon a pm few months back when he was giving it large about bushers, guess what no reply wanted to run my pup against his best busher lol Just like you? when you mail me tellin me you know who i am and where i live. but wont mail me back to tell me who u are ??? all because you wanted to know who iv been out with and i didnt feel comfteble giveing names on an open form lol Edited November 29, 2016 by green dragon 1 Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,261 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 This may sound better in my head . But I never really see the bull cross as a lurcher as such To me a lurcher is an all round hunting dog. The word to me brings memories of me as a kid with my pals and our dogs lurching around in rough spots and railway lines near our town I never see the need for something with the build of a rugby league player being essential in the hunting world For a youngster starting off in the game . A bull cross is a great starting point with their carry on regardless attitude being great for early success on the part of both the tyro hunter and the hound itself...but I'd like to think at some point . The hunter matures in himself enough to move onto other things Don't think I'm a bull hater, far from it, and for the foxing man , or keen digger a handy bull cross is worth its often considerable weight in sovereigns . It's just my own belief that for the roustabout hunter, a borderline bullmastiff is not exactly the weapon of choice in my eyes , theres always going to be that macho need for them when in reality they are literally overkill maybe it sounded better in my head than typed, but for me they are not a lurcher, rather a stand alone type Ive got to disagree with you there I had a bull x around me for years and it done everything a lurcher can do I've put the pics up here before would catch roe and hares retrieve anything small live without a mark retrieve stuff from water mark and catch bolted rabbits hit a hedge ratting digging a fox didn't last long with it at all If a run went over a minute he'd start to fade slightly but 5 mins rest he was ready to go again I miss the dog and would swap the lurcher I have now to have that dog from a pup again Also there's a bull x down here killing hares regular it's best is 17 in a night infront of loads of lads Very interesting to read that Maybe the rearing and exposure you put to the dog allowed it to become an all rounder , perhaps if a few others did the same it would open my eyes to it As I stated , I'm still very much a cynic of their lurching capabilities Can I ask what was the breeding of the dog ? That's the key mate getting them out doing it.My original bitch who was the mother to the bitch Honey you mentioned went everywhere with me whatever I was doing.if all lads do is chuck them out of a motor at stuff that's all they're going to be any good at.And if the only exercise the get is when they are run like that they are probably not going to be very good at that either. 7 Quote Link to post
king 11,972 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 image.jpeg At How's he bred at 1/2 x Quote Link to post
blackmaggie 3,376 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 This may sound better in my head . But I never really see the bull cross as a lurcher as such To me a lurcher is an all round hunting dog. The word to me brings memories of me as a kid with my pals and our dogs lurching around in rough spots and railway lines near our town I never see the need for something with the build of a rugby league player being essential in the hunting world For a youngster starting off in the game . A bull cross is a great starting point with their carry on regardless attitude being great for early success on the part of both the tyro hunter and the hound itself...but I'd like to think at some point . The hunter matures in himself enough to move onto other things Don't think I'm a bull hater, far from it, and for the foxing man , or keen digger a handy bull cross is worth its often considerable weight in sovereigns . It's just my own belief that for the roustabout hunter, a borderline bullmastiff is not exactly the weapon of choice in my eyes , theres always going to be that macho need for them when in reality they are literally overkill maybe it sounded better in my head than typed, but for me they are not a lurcher, rather a stand alone type Ive got to disagree with you there I had a bull x around me for years and it done everything a lurcher can do I've put the pics up here before would catch roe and hares retrieve anything small live without a mark retrieve stuff from water mark and catch bolted rabbits hit a hedge ratting digging a fox didn't last long with it at all If a run went over a minute he'd start to fade slightly but 5 mins rest he was ready to go again I miss the dog and would swap the lurcher I have now to have that dog from a pup again Also there's a bull x down here killing hares regular it's best is 17 in a night infront of loads of lads Very interesting to read that Maybe the rearing and exposure you put to the dog allowed it to become an all rounder , perhaps if a few others did the same it would open my eyes to it As I stated , I'm still very much a cynic of their lurching capabilities Can I ask what was the breeding of the dog ? That's the key mate getting them out doing it.My original bitch who was the mother to the bitch Honey you mentioned went everywhere with me whatever I was doing.if all lads do is chuck them out of a motor at stuff that's all they're going to be any good at.And if the only exercise the get is when they are run like that they are probably not going to be very good at that either.[/quote probably the best post on this thread couldn't of put it better D's Quote Link to post
bulls for life 4 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 i'm gutted my son has just told me he wants a bull x.he likes the top picture and wants one like that.there will never be a bull x here.i like a dog that runsWhat an amazing informal postSaying a dog can't run. Are you taking over sprouting total shit for dogfox. well said!!!! my bull x can run alright and feet of iron. Quote Link to post
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