Bull X In 2016

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,322]

This may sound better in my head .

 

But I never really see the bull cross as a lurcher as such

 

To me a lurcher is an all round hunting dog. The word to me brings memories of me as a kid with my pals and our dogs lurching around in rough spots and railway lines near our town

 

I never see the need for something with the build of a rugby league player being essential in the hunting world

 

For a youngster starting off in the game . A bull cross is a great starting point with their carry on regardless attitude being great for early success on the part of both the tyro hunter and the hound itself...but I'd like to think at some point . The hunter matures in himself enough to move onto other things

 

Don't think I'm a bull hater, far from it, and for the foxing man , or keen digger a handy bull cross is worth its often considerable weight in sovereigns . It's just my own belief that for the roustabout hunter, a borderline bullmastiff is not exactly the weapon of choice in my eyes , theres always going to be that macho need for them when in reality they are literally overkill

 

maybe it sounded better in my head than typed, but for me they are not a lurcher, rather a stand alone type

[Bosun11 537]

I can only completely disagree with you on almost every point there Stiffy...

[whitefeet4190 1,729]

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,322]

I can only completely disagree with you on almost every point there Stiffy...

I know your a bull fan my friend so I'd be very interested in your viewpoint as yours is one of the opinions I enjoy reading most on here ......how do you see the bull xs place in the hunting theatre?

 

I must add though that I really like a dash of bull in a dog, I like that edge it brings to the party , and I think it tidies up the hybrid both mentally and physically

 

Although I could probably never justify the ownership of a sole bull x greyhound , I do appreciate their capabilities

[Wild-Bill 500]

[roybo 2,873]

]This may sound better in my head .

 

But I never really see the bull cross as a lurcher as such

 

To me a lurcher is an all round hunting dog. The word to me brings memories of me as a kid with my pals and our dogs lurching around in rough spots and railway lines near our town

 

I never see the need for something with the build of a rugby league player being essential in the hunting world

 

For a youngster starting off in the game . A bull cross is a great starting point with their carry on regardless attitude being great for early success on the part of both the tyro hunter and the hound itself...but I'd like to think at some point . The hunter matures in himself enough to move onto other things

 

Don't think I'm a bull hater, far from it, and for the foxing man , or keen digger a handy bull cross is worth its often considerable weight in sovereigns . It's just my own belief that for the roustabout hunter, a borderline bullmastiff is not exactly the weapon of choice in my eyes , theres always going to be that macho need for them when in reality they are literally overkill

 

maybe it sounded better in my head than typed, but for me they are not a lurcher, rather a stand alone type

some good points stiffmeister, and some bull crosses are ,indeed,the rugby league player ,

and as you say the will do a job for some. especially for a terrier man.

 

But they do come in all shapes and % and builds with some 1/4 bred being light and quick.

i have a 3/8 bull x bitch here that was far from slow (or heavy).

 

I like their out going attitude without the sensitivity of some crosses.

but my hunting has changed over the last few years so,

these days, i'd sooner something else in the mix too,

but i'll always have some bull in there.

refreshing ,to hear an argument against that makes sense.

[Bosun11 537]

 

I can only completely disagree with you on almost every point there Stiffy...

I know your a bull fan my friend so I'd be very interested in your viewpoint as yours is one of the opinions I enjoy reading most on here ......how do you see the bull xs place in the hunting theatre?

I must add though that I really like a dash of bull in a dog, I like that edge it brings to the party , and I think it tidies up the hybrid both mentally and physically

Although I could probably never justify the ownership of a sole bull x greyhound , I do appreciate their capabilities

I simply see bull crosses no different than any other lurcher cross and have always disliked the fact that they warrant there own class at most shows. To me they are as much a lurcher as any other. They are as 'all round' as any other cross.

If the half crosses i owned could take rat, rabbit, hare, fox and deer, as well as ferret and hunt up, why would they not be a lurcher?

I agree with Ketchum with the sledge hammer line but pre-ban, if you hunted foxes then get the best dog for the job but that dont mean its a one trick pony!

No different than wanting a dog to kill hares regular and buying in a saluki cross.

Borderline bullmastiff, like that, same as calling collie crosses sheepdogs and bedlingtons poodles. A real bullcross is about as far away from a bullmastiff as you could get.

Ok, so to 2016... For me those long haul nights all over the country are over BUT there are still many that are as keen on that game as folk have ever been (and long may that be so) and for that game the bull bloods rule supreme and i'm sure many of those same dogs are catching a whole load of other quarry too, just as any good lurcher should.

[blacky13 285]

Please with my one

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,322]

 

Don't tell me I'm the only one to see the irony in this photo

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,322]

Please with my one IMG_3154.JPG

If that's what you call a bull cross , so be it

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,322]

 

 

I can only completely disagree with you on almost every point there Stiffy...

I know your a bull fan my friend so I'd be very interested in your viewpoint as yours is one of the opinions I enjoy reading most on here ......how do you see the bull xs place in the hunting theatre?

I must add though that I really like a dash of bull in a dog, I like that edge it brings to the party , and I think it tidies up the hybrid both mentally and physically

Although I could probably never justify the ownership of a sole bull x greyhound , I do appreciate their capabilities

I simply see bull crosses no different than any other lurcher cross and have always disliked the fact that they warrant there own class at most shows. To me they are as much a lurcher as any other. They are as 'all round' as any other cross.

If the half crosses i owned could take rat, rabbit, hare, fox and deer, as well as ferret and hunt up, why would they not be a lurcher?

I agree with Ketchum with the sledge hammer line but pre-ban, if you hunted foxes then get the best dog for the job but that dont mean its a one trick pony!

No different than wanting a dog to kill hares regular and buying in a saluki cross.

Borderline bullmastiff, like that, same as calling collie crosses sheepdogs and bedlingtons poodles. A real bullcross is about as far away from a bullmastiff as you could get.

Ok, so to 2016... For me those long haul nights all over the country are over BUT there are still many that are as keen on that game as folk have ever been (and long may that be so) and for that game the bull bloods rule supreme and i'm sure many of those same dogs are catching a whole load of other quarry too, just as any good lurcher should.

 

 

 

Great reply as expected from a knowledgeable guy

 

Those from a certain era remember the long journey posts and the guys doing it. Some were even fortunate to also taste the red bull nectar and be absolutely knackered on the Saturday afterwards

 

However by the by, you were a bull man from the start If I remember correctly . You were probably fortunate enough to be exposed to good dogs but more importantly good owners who knew the score with breeding , rearing and entering

 

Of all the lurcher breeds I find the bull the most infuriating , not the dog but the owners, it seems to stir something inside people to own a dog that is easily conditioned and is assured to put up a good showing on a range of quarry.

 

For example a close friend of mine owned two corkers, absolute terminators on the beam at all things vulpine, but at a hare, they didn't have three runs a night between them.

 

Compare this to a young lad I grew up who had a lovely fawn saluki bull greyhound , probably the only dog I've ever seen who you could honestly 100% say could kill anything you came across in the uk day or night, was it the bull blood or the top coursing line in its DNA ? Who knows but I suspect the gears it was given from its fen blood that allowed it to bring the shaker blood to its quarry that held the key

[Wild-Bill 500]

 

Don't tell me I'm the only one to see the irony in this photo

Haha Tyson unfortunelty that ain't his name tho!

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,322]

 

]This may sound better in my head .

But I never really see the bull cross as a lurcher as such

To me a lurcher is an all round hunting dog. The word to me brings memories of me as a kid with my pals and our dogs lurching around in rough spots and railway lines near our town

I never see the need for something with the build of a rugby league player being essential in the hunting world

For a youngster starting off in the game . A bull cross is a great starting point with their carry on regardless attitude being great for early success on the part of both the tyro hunter and the hound itself...but I'd like to think at some point . The hunter matures in himself enough to move onto other things

Don't think I'm a bull hater, far from it, and for the foxing man , or keen digger a handy bull cross is worth its often considerable weight in sovereigns . It's just my own belief that for the roustabout hunter, a borderline bullmastiff is not exactly the weapon of choice in my eyes , theres always going to be that macho need for them when in reality they are literally overkill

maybe it sounded better in my head than typed, but for me they are not a lurcher, rather a stand alone type

 

some good points stiffmeister, and some bull crosses are ,indeed,the rugby league player ,

and as you say the will do a job for some. especially for a terrier man.

 

But they do come in all shapes and % and builds with some 1/4 bred being light and quick.

i have a 3/8 bull x bitch here that was far from slow (or heavy).

 

 

 

I like their out going attitude without the sensitivity of some crosses.

but my hunting has changed over the last few years so,

these days, i'd sooner something else in the mix too,

but i'll always have some bull in there.

refreshing ,to hear an argument against that makes sense.

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Pretty much hit the nail on the head roybo buddy, I'd much rather see a good old jukel like yours than some war dog being hefted ffrom the back of an Astra into a stubble field

[downsouth 7,535]

 

 

 

I can only completely disagree with you on almost every point there Stiffy...

I know your a bull fan my friend so I'd be very interested in your viewpoint as yours is one of the opinions I enjoy reading most on here ......how do you see the bull xs place in the hunting theatre?

I must add though that I really like a dash of bull in a dog, I like that edge it brings to the party , and I think it tidies up the hybrid both mentally and physically

Although I could probably never justify the ownership of a sole bull x greyhound , I do appreciate their capabilities

I simply see bull crosses no different than any other lurcher cross and have always disliked the fact that they warrant there own class at most shows. To me they are as much a lurcher as any other. They are as 'all round' as any other cross.

If the half crosses i owned could take rat, rabbit, hare, fox and deer, as well as ferret and hunt up, why would they not be a lurcher?

I agree with Ketchum with the sledge hammer line but pre-ban, if you hunted foxes then get the best dog for the job but that dont mean its a one trick pony!

No different than wanting a dog to kill hares regular and buying in a saluki cross.

Borderline bullmastiff, like that, same as calling collie crosses sheepdogs and bedlingtons poodles. A real bullcross is about as far away from a bullmastiff as you could get.

Ok, so to 2016... For me those long haul nights all over the country are over BUT there are still many that are as keen on that game as folk have ever been (and long may that be so) and for that game the bull bloods rule supreme and i'm sure many of those same dogs are catching a whole load of other quarry too, just as any good lurcher should.

 

 

Great reply as expected from a knowledgeable guy

 

Those from a certain era remember the long journey posts and the guys doing it. Some were even fortunate to also taste the red bull nectar and be absolutely knackered on the Saturday afterwards

 

However by the by, you were a bull man from the start If I remember correctly . You were probably fortunate enough to be exposed to good dogs but more importantly good owners who knew the score with breeding , rearing and entering

 

Of all the lurcher breeds I find the bull the most infuriating , not the dog but the owners, it seems to stir something inside people to own a dog that is easily conditioned and is assured to put up a good showing on a range of quarry.

 

For example a close friend of mine owned two corkers, absolute terminators on the beam at all things vulpine, but at a hare, they didn't have three runs a night between them.

 

Compare this to a young lad I grew up who had a lovely fawn saluki bull greyhound , probably the only dog I've ever seen who you could honestly 100% say could kill anything you came across in the uk day or night, was it the bull blood or the top coursing line in its DNA ? Who knows but I suspect the gears it was given from its fen blood that allowed it to bring the shaker blood to its quarry that held the key

what makes you think that a bull cross is any easier to condition than any other breed?If a proper bull cross is conditioned properly it will be plenty capable of running 3 hares on the lamp

[blacky13 285]

What you on about stiffmeister it is a bull cross