socks 32,253 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 And I'm not saying because it is from a certain line it will be good. Same as all the dogs ever bred...just cos the parents were good the offspring could be shitBUT you will have more of a chance of getting a good hunting dog from proven working parents than from a failed track dog crossed to a mungrolised collie that's never left his pen ......maybe you will maybe you won't. You can't guarantee anything. Got no problem with my pup, regards to wondering if he has the drive to chase etc he like shit off a shovel the other night at 9 months old. Once he matures abit more il be sure to let everyone know how shit he is. He will never be any good cos his parents never done days work lol No need to play the victim fella ... nobody said your pup was going to be shit ... I've trained and raced greyhounds to open class level so I know that using the best greyhound will give you the best chance ... and it's common sense that workers will have more chance of producing workers than on workers ....... Quote Link to post
neems 2,406 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 While you have idiots with money, you will always have an Hancock I'm not an idiot and I'm not made of money.It's because of all the idiots out for money is the real reason I went to him. Rather a pup off him than some lying chancing c**t. I like I say time n time again, I know boys that work them from he dogs I had mine from and they do enough to please me Though I'd never get a pup off a puppy farmer like Hancock I can see the appeal of being 100% about the origins of your litter. I found out about a year after I got him that my current lurcher isn't what I was told he was,and the fella was just struggling to shift the pups. 3 Quote Link to post
Blueboybilly 164 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Well I must say I'm shocked by this guy My mate has gone on for yrs about buying a pup bred by Hancock so off we go to view at kennels the stuff this said truly surprised me none of his dogs have worked studs dogs I said do you look for certain types of greyhounds to use he responded by saying they are just carriers of pups the litter take nothing from the greyhound for hunting ability they are just there for a carcass to carry young I expressed that the greyhound was bred hunting dog he said they dumb free to good home breeding carcass that's all I'm confused Mr Hancock why use them or have 100 plus of them if there no good for hunting oh he did say and saly did say that they don't want black greyhounds cause people don't buy black and white pups no more fancy colours are what the market want When I challenged him over the use of greyhounds he said I'm cold I'm going in doors if your not buying a pup .so we left without a pup What a stupid thing to say Mr Hancock and tbh shame on you Sounds like a c**t Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,543 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 While you have idiots with money, you will always have an Hancock I'm not an idiot and I'm not made of money.It's because of all the idiots out for money is the real reason I went to him.Rather a pup off him than some lying chancing c**t. I like I say time n time again, I know boys that work them from he dogs I had mine from and they do enough to please me Though I'd never get a pup off a puppy farmer like Hancock I can see the appeal of being 100% about the origins of your litter. I found out about a year after I got him that my current lurcher isn't what I was told he was,and the fella was just struggling to shift the pups. I think your spot on there, people go there to get a collie lurcher probably because they are led to believe their easy to train. You don't see many collie lurcher litters for sale and this year the few I have seen some are wanting 350-400 a pup on pets4homes. Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Bit off topic.......I had to laugh the other day i was in a local animal food shop and pinned on the sale board was an advert for lurchers...about £250/300....little description and pics of dam and sire. Sire....deerhound/ greyhound first cross.....it was a tall, short haired bull cross.....Unbelieveable. Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 There as much chance of a Hancock lurcher been shit as 90% of the other lurchers that are been bred out there. Your lucky to get hold of the other 10% percent because there either snapped up or gifted and some of them won't be top notch. 1 Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 While you have idiots with money, you will always have an HancockI'm not an idiot and I'm not made of money.It's because of all the idiots out for money is the real reason I went to him. Rather a pup off him than some lying chancing c**t. I like I say time n time again, I know boys that work them from he dogs I had mine from and they do enough to please me Do your research and do a bit of digging.....there's been a few litters of collie lurchers on here (that maybe had a bit of something else) buying off him is just keeping the peddling going . I think buying off him is down to laziness , The canine equivalent of buying online from a supermarket. with any pup I buy I'd be asking questions about parents ,grandparents ,etc what work they've done what I can expect from my pup ,if I wasn't sure I'd walk away. not a lot of work for the time they give you. Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 While you have idiots with money, you will always have an HancockI'm not an idiot and I'm not made of money.It's because of all the idiots out for money is the real reason I went to him. Rather a pup off him than some lying chancing c**t. I like I say time n time again, I know boys that work them from he dogs I had mine from and they do enough to please me Do your research and do a bit of digging.....there's been a few litters of collie lurchers on here (that maybe had a bit of something else) buying off him is just keeping the peddling going . I think buying off him is down to laziness , The canine equivalent of buying online from a supermarket. with any pup I buy I'd be asking questions about parents ,grandparents ,etc what work they've done what I can expect from my pup ,if I wasn't sure I'd walk away. not a lot of work for the time they give you. hardly lazy I looked for a year, had my name put down on litters and never heard a peep off them...I ain't chasing people for pups if my names supposedly down on them. Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 They where obviously in demand then and they chose to sell them to others . Quote Link to post
tatsblisters 9,515 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I dont buy this people saying Hancock was the only option.I remember breeding a litter of lurchers in 1984 out of two good honest lurcher to lurcher bred dogs that i owned and was asking no were near the price Hancock was asking but even then lads would have rather have gone and got one of Hancock though then it was down to all the bullshit wrote about them in books and the shooting news. Quote Link to post
troyboy17 631 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 There are a lot of other people having pups to make I bit on the side as well has hancock and u can't guarantee they have work as well as they say so where do u go if u want a collie coss Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 While you have idiots with money, you will always have an HancockI'm not an idiot and I'm not made of money.It's because of all the idiots out for money is the real reason I went to him.Rather a pup off him than some lying chancing c**t. I like I say time n time again, I know boys that work them from he dogs I had mine from and they do enough to please me Do your research and do a bit of digging.....there's been a few litters of collie lurchers on here (that maybe had a bit of something else) buying off him is just keeping the peddling going . I think buying off him is down to laziness , The canine equivalent of buying online from a supermarket. with any pup I buy I'd be asking questions about parents ,grandparents ,etc what work they've done what I can expect from my pup ,if I wasn't sure I'd walk away. not a lot of work for the time they give you. hardly lazy I looked for a year, had my name put down on litters and never heard a peep off them...I ain't chasing people for pups if my names supposedly down on them. Didn't you ask me for a pup then change your mind ??? 1 Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) While you have idiots with money, you will always have an HancockI'm not an idiot and I'm not made of money.It's because of all the idiots out for money is the real reason I went to him.Rather a pup off him than some lying chancing c**t. I like I say time n time again, I know boys that work them from he dogs I had mine from and they do enough to please me Do your research and do a bit of digging.....there's been a few litters of collie lurchers on here (that maybe had a bit of something else) buying off him is just keeping the peddling going . I think buying off him is down to laziness , The canine equivalent of buying online from a supermarket. with any pup I buy I'd be asking questions about parents ,grandparents ,etc what work they've done what I can expect from my pup ,if I wasn't sure I'd walk away. not a lot of work for the time they give you. hardly lazy I looked for a year, had my name put down on litters and never heard a peep off them...I ain't chasing people for pups if my names supposedly down on them.Didn't you ask me for a pup then change your mind ???No I didn't change my mind mate. But your right I did ask and you reply was that you already got a few lads names down,but will keep me in mind and that one might pull out. as it happened you had a tribe, Edited December 1, 2016 by Somewhereyournot Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 They where obviously in demand then and they chose to sell them to others . so I'm to keep waiting on the hope of getting a collie x from home bred litter? I made my choice and I'm happy with it he's a belting little dog. I don't agree with Hancock ways etc but end of the day I got what I wanted, infact, I got more than I wanted he's easy to get on with, quick learner but not complicated amd I domt hear him. 2 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 While you have idiots with money, you will always have an HancockI'm not an idiot and I'm not made of money.It's because of all the idiots out for money is the real reason I went to him.Rather a pup off him than some lying chancing c**t. I like I say time n time again, I know boys that work them from he dogs I had mine from and they do enough to please me Do your research and do a bit of digging.....there's been a few litters of collie lurchers on here (that maybe had a bit of something else) buying off him is just keeping the peddling going . I think buying off him is down to laziness , The canine equivalent of buying online from a supermarket. with any pup I buy I'd be asking questions about parents ,grandparents ,etc what work they've done what I can expect from my pup ,if I wasn't sure I'd walk away. not a lot of work for the time they give you. hardly lazy I looked for a year, had my name put down on litters and never heard a peep off them...I ain't chasing people for pups if my names supposedly down on them.Didn't you ask me for a pup then change your mind ???No I didn't change my mind mate. But your right I did ask and you reply was that you already got a few lads names down,but will keep me in mind and that one might pull out. as it happened you had a tribe, Ah yes I sort of remember ... didn't you want a bitch and I only had a few ? Something like that wasn't it ? ... anyway good luck with your pup ...... Quote Link to post
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