Passing Perms On To Our Kids

[bigmac 97kt 13,780]

As we get older and we cant get out as much and our kids get older and can get out on there own with out us apart from putting on there best clobber and shiny shoes and doing the long walk and knocking on the doors to get there own perms.

 

How many of us are going to pass ours over to them

 

the old perm as me and viz call it is more or less set in stone that little hunter is going to get it

 

along with uncle Sean's grand-kids (which by the way wont be long before he is buying a rifle for SHAY his oldest grandson)

 

Little hunter knows the owners and has helped one of the owners feed the lambs and cows

 

and gets on with Linda (one of the owners) and all ways say,s hello and stands and has 5 mins chat with her.

 

He will still have to get out and do the knocking and take the knock backs as we all have had to do that i will make sure of

 

But at least he will have a foot in the door to get him started or both him and Shay if Shay gets into the sport

 

but with a grandad like Viz and a uncle like me

 

I WOULD SAY THAT IS SET IN STONE TO LOL

 

so how many of you lot are going to pass there perms over to your kids

 

HOPE FULLY NOT FOR A LONG TIME TO COME LOL

 

ATVBMAC :thumbs:

[villaman 9,983]

Not me ,I have a 16 year old daughter ,who hates me shooting live quarry

 

Trouble is most youngster are more interested in other things , like motorbikes , cars , beer , shagging girls or boys if you live up north

 

I loved shooting but at 16 all these things took over for about 15 years

[walshie 2,804]

Playing the devil's advocate here a bit Mac, but can you pass on something that isn't actually yours? Maybe the farmer/landowner doesn't mind you shooting there, but I bet when he gave you permission he didn't think he was giving permission to your family for generations to come.

 

And by the time you pop your clogs, he/she might not even own the land any more.

 

It's different in your case if LH already shoots there and knows them, but do you see what I mean?

 

Not being argumentative by the way.

[Greyman 28,236]

My son has been my permanent partner since he could walk, fishing,shooting even working so most people who know me know he comes as part of the package,as a toddler he used to sleep in my unhooking mat in the back of my bivvie right through the winter, he,s 23 now and goes off on his own to any of my perms as and when he wants, he actually spends more time with some of my mates than I do as I get a bit older and softer, so it's something I,ve never given any thought to really and just assumed he would carry on

[johonawhitness 110]

100% makes sense to me walshie, each situation is different yes but seems a bit strange you are given permission to shoot you can't just decide its yours to shoot and whoever else you decide is Worthy for the next 50years.

 

I let people shoot my land it benefits us all,land which ill be passing down myself,i would be horrified if they looked at it as a lifetime of shooting for there family!

[philpot 4,971]

It does not apply to me as I have daughters who would never shoot anything that lives and my son lives in Bristol.

 

It is a wonderful thing if a shoot could be passed on and in Ethan's case, he stands a fair chance of retaining the perms because he is known to shoot them now but I think you will have to keep pushing him in front of the land owners Jimmy in order for him to have a profile on the perm with the land owner despite that he is your grandson.

 

Phil

[bigmac 97kt 13,780]

Playing the devil's advocate here a bit Mac, but can you pass on something that isn't actually yours? Maybe the farmer/landowner doesn't mind you shooting there, but I bet when he gave you permission he didn't think he was giving permission to your family for generations to come.

 

And by the time you pop your clogs, he/she might not even own the land any more.

 

It's different in your case if LH already shoots there and knows them, but do you see what I mean?

 

Not being argumentative by the way.

Fair point both you and JW

 

its not our land but if we have been taken our son,s and grandsons on them to shoot and they have got to know the lads or lasses and when its time for them to shoot on there own and now the rules and regulations of say,d perm

 

is it not better to let some one take over that is known to them as some one else that is not

 

I know we would have to have a talk to the land owners to sort it out and for them to say yes or no

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[philpot 4,971]

''is it not better to let some one take over that is known to them as some one else that is not''

100% spot on Jimmy

Phil

[j j m 6,536]

not me my oldest lad is a social worker,who when he was a kid was right in to shooting then met girls he left behind his birds of prey and shooting i got his guns,my eldest daughter is 13 does it now and again but is bang in to trampoline reached second in the finals last year in the nationals so most of her time is taking up with her sport,my youngest grandson is only 2 so it will be a while for him ,so looking ahead i will problaby pass it on to my best mate big shaun t who is a lot younger then me

[The one 8,467]

I reckon it cant be done one permission ive had for twenty years even moved farms with him told us hes let it to a stalker now theres no loyalty . my son who does everything with me has see permissions come and go if you do a good job on the rabbits i would expect that to be the case we sometimes get a call from a old permission but its usually starting afresh most years

[Rabid 1,936]

I don't have kids, but I grew up on the farm with me old man, I could obviously shoot our place, and it was the connection of who I was got me a lot of perms, but I still went out and did the asking, wasn't the old mans job to ask, it was down to me.

I secured all the most obvious ones, (neighbours farms and known associates) and gained quite a few more besides.

 

I lost two, both as they didn't like me even though they let the old man shoot.

Now I am in his shoes without the kids, I give a few lads permission to shoot, but it doesn't automatically mean siblings can shoot it either with them now, or when they pack up, each perm is gained on merits, and any sibling wishing to carry on needs to have those merits. Some would get it, some wouldn't, it's that simple.

[flynndog 543]

My old boy passed me a perm down soon as I passed my test 8 years on I'm still going and got myself another 6 farms on the way. My oldest is nearly 3 but can guarantee the way he's going with wanting to be out with me all the time hell end up with a couple of perms from me if he gets into the sport which I think he will.

[walshie 2,804]

 

Playing the devil's advocate here a bit Mac, but can you pass on something that isn't actually yours? Maybe the farmer/landowner doesn't mind you shooting there, but I bet when he gave you permission he didn't think he was giving permission to your family for generations to come.

 

And by the time you pop your clogs, he/she might not even own the land any more.

 

It's different in your case if LH already shoots there and knows them, but do you see what I mean?

 

Not being argumentative by the way.

Fair point both you and JW

 

its not our land but if we have been taken our son,s and grandsons on them to shoot and they have got to know the lads or lasses and when its time for them to shoot on there own and now the rules and regulations of say,d perm

 

is it not better to let some one take over that is known to them as some one else that is not

 

I know we would have to have a talk to the land owners to sort it out and for them to say yes or no

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

 

 

Yes it is better to let someone known to them take over. They know the rules, the land, the people etc. The problem is that decision isn't down to the shooter or who he passes it to. It's down to the owner.

[bigmac 97kt 13,780]

 

 

Playing the devil's advocate here a bit Mac, but can you pass on something that isn't actually yours? Maybe the farmer/landowner doesn't mind you shooting there, but I bet when he gave you permission he didn't think he was giving permission to your family for generations to come.

 

And by the time you pop your clogs, he/she might not even own the land any more.

 

It's different in your case if LH already shoots there and knows them, but do you see what I mean?

 

Not being argumentative by the way.

Fair point both you and JW

 

its not our land but if we have been taken our son,s and grandsons on them to shoot and they have got to know the lads or lasses and when its time for them to shoot on there own and now the rules and regulations of say,d perm

 

is it not better to let some one take over that is known to them as some one else that is not

 

I know we would have to have a talk to the land owners to sort it out and for them to say yes or no

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

 

 

Yes it is better to let someone known to them take over. They know the rules, the land, the people etc. The problem is that decision isn't down to the shooter or who he passes it to. It's down to the owner.

 

Would still be nice if we could mind walshie

 

and i think you would have a better chance if they all ready know the shooters and have had no issues with them

 

but your right 100% its down to the owner and not us

 

all we can do is ask or recommend them and hope for the best

 

atvbjimmy :thumbs:

[mushroom 12,879]

you need to teach that boy that that there deer fawn belongs hung, butchered and on a plate with veg ????