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Or perhaps it's just the fact most of the country is sick to death of the way the country has turned out, and what is happening, I think this murder could be the first wave in a tsunami of the people'

There's a few thousand wives, husbands, dads, mothers and children of dead servicemen who will never again see their loves one because of the policy's of the Jo Coxs of this world.......it's every bit

.....I think calling him "Britain first" is a bit unfair....he had nothing to do with Britain first the organisation. He was heard to shout Britain must come first....there is a bit of a difference.

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They want to call the bloke a terrorist because that's exactly what he is.

Ever seen the film "Falling Down" ?.........I'd say the bloke is probably as much of a terrorist as the lead character in that film.

But let's humour the headline makers for a minute.......let's take the juicy term "right wing"........does that make whole swathes of former labour voters, ex union men who may have stood on the picket lines in the miners strike right wing ??

Millions of Europeans and Americans are turning away from the "lefts" agenda of cultural genocide.......they are angry......does that make them all hard right ?

Erm if they hold right wing views then yes? Right wing isn't a dirty word or insult you know, it's just a descriptor of a political stance :blink:

I don't really like the term myself mate, it has little relevance......same as left wing.....it don't really describe things very well......it just conjures up an image, it makes something fit in a nice little box.

Easier to say right wing for politicians and the media, the desperate and abused indigenous people don't quiet have the same ring to it ;)

Easier to say left wing than traitorous enslavers of indigenous populations.

 

I find it incredible that anyone still holds any faith or wants any affiliation to mainstream political parties.......I just think it defies all logic.

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They want to call the bloke a terrorist because that's exactly what he is.

I think the dictionary definition confirms that he is a terrorist - although the word is so overused that it's losing its true meaning.

To call him a "Britain First terrorist" is, at very best, tenuous and, at worst, downright dishonest, for the reasons I gave above.

I'll admit it's a bit of an oversimplification used as a headline but I'm sure we can agree based on what we know of his motives and ideology that "right wing nationalist terrorist" fits perfectly.
No ! We most definitely do NOT agree !

 

Terrorist yes, by definition....but.....

 

My objection is - apart from the many I've already raised - that you're equating "right wing", "nationalist"and " terrorist" into one homogenised lump, in an underhand attempt to suggest that the three things are interchangeable.

Thomas Mair had no concrete affiliations to any right wing group. No right wing or nationalist group has him listed among their members or supporters. No right wing group 'put him up to it',or have supported or condoned his actions. No right wing group has claimed his actions to be on their behalf.......

 

You're flogging a dead horse, mate, and you won't run me in circles as easily as you do some others - I'm not necessarily a supporter of Britain First, but I very much resent the attempt to tar all right wingers with cheap, scurrilous insinuations !

So he's a lone wolf, doesn't change his motivation or political ideology.

 

I'm trying to do no such thing, this scumbag is part of a very tiny minority as I've said a few times in this thread, the vast majority of even the most extreme right wing nationalists would never dream of doing anything like this and I've never tried to insinuate otherwise. I've never been the type to condemn a whole group based on the actions of a tiny minority and I'm not about to start now.

 

All of that doesn't change the fact that all available evidence points to the fact he's a terrorist who carried out this attack in an attempt to further his right wing, nationalist agenda.

Is this being mischievous or manipulative? At least you are true to form bgd
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Guilty of all charges and sentenced to life imprisonment :thumbs:

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/23/jo-cox-mp-murder-trial-jury-due-retire-consider-verdicts-alleged/

 

The judge told Mair his inspiration was not from "love of country or your fellow citizens", but was "an admiration of Nazism" and similar white supremacist ideas where "democracy and political persuasion are supplanted by violence".

 

He added: "Our parents' generation made huge sacrifices to defeat those ideas and values in the Second World War. What you did, and your admiration for those views which informed your crime, betrays the sacrifices of that generation.

 

"You are no patriot. By your actions you have betrayed the quintessence of our country, its adherence to parliamentary democracy."

Nail on head there I reckon :yes:

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Easy to say for a judge when it's not his daughter getting raped by pakis or his children's school over run and over stretched with Africans who couldn't give a shit about anything.

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I wonder how many of our grandfathers would have been so keen to go to war if they'd have known the traitorous scum ruling this country would turn a blind eye to the mass raping of their desendants and the wholesale neglect of our pensioners to accomodate the 3rd world scum invading our country with the blessing of our ruling elite

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Been plenty about Breivik in the news in the years since his sentencing, you obviously haven't paid attention ;)

I've not seen much mate.......was it along the lines of "let find out what drove him to it?".......or was it more along the lines of "right wing nutcase " ?

 

Anyway, only just the 4 million dead to western governments since the 90s so whatever St Jo and her mates were doing they were obviously making a good job of it........and let's face it, it's not like her kids were ever likely to have a bomb dropped on the private hospital when they were having their tonsils out so who gives a shit right?

 

Long as you get elected, that's the main job ;)

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