POACHING WAYS/AND GYPSY DOGS

[nrat 8]

POACHING WAYS AND GYPSY DOGS, IN ALL MY OLD YEARS I MUST HAVE READ MOST OLD POACHING BOOKS,AND TRIED SEVERAL OF THE OLD POACHERS WAYS AND MEANS OF CATCHING A DINNER,NOT COZ I WAS HUNGARY BUT JUST TO TRY,NOW SOME OF THESE OLD TALES WANT SOME BELIEVING,LITTLE LYOYD MENTIONED USING A CONE SUNK IN THE GROUND WITH SOME CORN IN IT,PHEASANT EATS CORN AND GETS HEAD STUCK IN CONE YOU THEN JUST COME ALONG AND PICK UP THE PHEASANTS ANOTHER ONE,YOU BURN FLOWERS OF SULFER UNDER ROOSTING PHEASANTS STUPPIFING THEM TILL THEY FALL OUT THE TREE EVEN ON A STILL NIGHT I DOUGHT THE FUMES WOULD GO STRAIGHT UP.FISHING FOR RABBITS WITH A FERRET A LINE ATTACHED TO THE FERRET AS IN A LINER LET IT WANDER IN THEN JUST PULL OUT THE RABBITS WOULD WORK IN A SHORT STOP END, BUT NOT IN A EVEN A SMALL EARTH WOULD IT WORK BY THE TIME THE FERRETS GONE ROUND A FEW BENDS YOU WOULD BE STUCK :thumbdown:HOW ABOUT SNARING A PHEASANT OUT THE ROOST HAVE YOU EVER TRIED PUSHING A SNARE UP THROUGH A BLACKTHORN BUSH THERS LOADS OF OLD WAYS SOME WORK SOME DONT SOME SEEM A BIT FAR FETCHED, AND WHAT ABOUT GYPSEY DOGS ALL THE OLD TALES TELL OF THE PROWESS THEY POSESED,WHEN APPROACHED BY A KEEPER THE DOG WOULD MAKE ITS WAY HOME VIA A DIFFERENT ROUTE,AND GATE NETTING DOGS DO THEY REALLY EXIST,A DOG LIKE THAT WOULD BE PRICELESS IF THE THE GYPSY DOGS WERE THAT GOOD AT COURSING AND HUNTING,WHY DO THEY ALWAYS KEEP CHANGING THEM,I THINK MOST POACHING HAS ALWAYS BEEN NETS SNARES DOGS AND GUNS,PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS TODAY,THE MAIN DIFFERANCE BETWEEN OLD POACHERS AND NOW,WAS THAT THE BOYS,TENDED TO BE COUNTRY WISE,

[bullet 125]

way back in the hay days times were tough and money was short, no processed shit, microwave crap, so i do beleive some of the stuff are very true, and dogs were sent of home with out the owner, not sure about a different route and the women were nearly as guilty as the men for being poachers

[Hob&Jill 258]

I do have to admit I do love reading the old poacher tales and books. I do take it with a rather large pinch of salt though

[Guest Frank]

I tryd the cones with the pheasent trick once and it worked, but you have to put glue, to the edges of the cone.

As for gypsys having good dogs, well, some of the bad ones over here do, why, because they nick other folks good dogs!!!

[mooster 1]

I too have always loved reading such tales.I think most of the ones you quote i've read in Iain Nial's books.

I love the quotes about wild windy nights when everyone stays in except the poacher who buttons his huge old coat about himself,whistles to his dog and makes off into the night.The stuff my dreams are made of!

 

What about the raisins with horse hair threaded through which get caught in the pheasants throat.

When you turn up he is going mad trying to remove the obstruction from his throat and doesn't notice you behind him.

Great stories for a windy wet night!

[brookie 1,193]

take it from me folks the old ways do exist and the dogs do but not in the ways described a lot of that is crap why do i say they exist is because ive witnessed them and seen the dogs some of the best dogs ive seen have been traveller owned and bred and the best poachers ive seen have been travellers

[DUCKWING 302]

WELL LADS ,

 

I THINK QUITE A FEW OF THE OLD WRITERS HAD VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE OF THE SUBJECT .................

 

FECK ME ........ COME TO THINK OF IT ............ MOST OF THE MODERN WRITERS AINT MUCH BETTER

 

IVE SEEN A FEW THINGS OVER THE YRS IN THIS GAME , SOME .......... YOU LADS WOULDNT BELIVE ....... AND I AINT TELLING , LETS JUST SAY THERES MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT

 

 

YEP , THE MAIN METHODS OF POACHING HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE NET , SNARE , DOGS AND GUNS ...... OTHER METHODS REALLY ARENT WAYS OF CATCHING GOOD AMOUNTS OF SALEABLE GAME , WHICH IS WHAT THE PROFESSIONAL AIMED FOR

 

 

 

 

ALL THE BEST

 

DUCKWING

[bullet 125]

WELL LADS ,

 

I THINK QUITE A FEW OF THE OLD WRITERS HAD VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE OF THE SUBJECT .................

 

FECK ME ........ COME TO THINK OF IT ............ MOST OF THE MODERN WRITERS AINT MUCH BETTER

 

IVE SEEN A FEW THINGS OVER THE YRS IN THIS GAME , SOME .......... YOU LADS WOULDNT BELIVE ....... AND I AINT TELLING , LETS JUST SAY THERES MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT

 

 

YEP , THE MAIN METHODS OF POACHING HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE NET , SNARE , DOGS AND GUNS ...... OTHER METHODS REALLY ARENT WAYS OF CATCHING GOOD AMOUNTS OF SALEABLE GAME , WHICH IS WHAT THE PROFESSIONAL AIMED FOR

 

 

 

 

ALL THE BEST

 

DUCKWING

not all poachers were doing it for a profit, most were doing it as a way to put food on the table

[Little Butch 16]

If you could reccomend one or two books about pochers and poaching what would they be ? Gunna get me a couple for Xmas

Leon

[mooster 1]

The poachers handbook/the new poachers handbook and/or the gamekeeper by Ian Niall.

[Little Butch 16]

Ok will check them out on amazon, cheers.

Leon

[DUCKWING 302]

WELL LADS ,

 

I THINK QUITE A FEW OF THE OLD WRITERS HAD VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE OF THE SUBJECT .................

 

FECK ME ........ COME TO THINK OF IT ............ MOST OF THE MODERN WRITERS AINT MUCH BETTER

 

IVE SEEN A FEW THINGS OVER THE YRS IN THIS GAME , SOME .......... YOU LADS WOULDNT BELIVE ....... AND I AINT TELLING , LETS JUST SAY THERES MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT

 

 

YEP , THE MAIN METHODS OF POACHING HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE NET , SNARE , DOGS AND GUNS ...... OTHER METHODS REALLY ARENT WAYS OF CATCHING GOOD AMOUNTS OF SALEABLE GAME , WHICH IS WHAT THE PROFESSIONAL AIMED FOR

 

 

 

 

ALL THE BEST

 

DUCKWING

not all poachers were doing it for a profit, most were doing it as a way to put food on the table

 

WELL ,

 

ONE FOR THE POT POACHERS ............ HAD TO BE VERY , VERY CAREFUL AS MOST LIVED IN RENTED OR TENANTED HOMES OWNED BY THE SAME MEN WHO THEY WOULD BE POACHING FROM ........... SAME GOES FOR THE LARGE ESTATES WHICH WERE OWNED BY THE INDUSTRIAL MAGNETS , WHO OWNED MILLS COAL MINES ETC ............. IF CAUGHT THEIR FAMILIES WOULD BE OUT ON THE STREET ........ AS SUCH THEY WERE A LOT LESS COMMON THAN YOU WOULD IMAGINE .......

MORE PROFFESIONAL POACHERS CAME FROM THE LARGER TOWNS WHERE CATCH COULD BE EASILY DISPERSED AND THEY RELIED ON "ONE " TYPE OF OCCUPATION A LOT LESS

 

DUCKWING

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Yeppers, both Ian Nialls books are f*cking classics of the genre. (George Henry Watkin, the 'Keeper, eh? F*ckin brilliant! )

 

Another poaching book I worshipped and yet never now hear of though is " While Others Sleep " by, I believe Cyril Herber - Percy. Story of Bill and his lurker. Illustrated by that marvellous Field Sports artist, Michael Lynne.

 

The hard back copy I had came with a dust jacket illustration of a painted scene; A barn owl in flight above a woodland path leading down to a moon lit field. Absolutely f*cking wanking material!

 

Oh and, interestingly; As far as I remember, the methods employed by 'Bill' were pretty much correct. I don't seem to remember anything too far fetched sounding in that book. Just nets, Gin traps and snares sort of thing.

 

Very Highly reccomended

[nrat 8]

I too have always loved reading such tales.I think most of the ones you quote i've read in Iain Nial's books.

I love the quotes about wild windy nights when everyone stays in except the poacher who buttons his huge old coat about himself,whistles to his dog and makes off into the night.The stuff my dreams are made of!

 

What about the raisins with horse hair threaded through which get caught in the pheasants throat.

When you turn up he is going mad trying to remove the obstruction from his throat and doesn't notice you behind him.

Great stories for a windy wet night!

FISH HOOKS BAITED WITH RAISENS AND TIED TO SPRINGY BRANCHES WOULD WORK BETTER AND YOU WOULDNT HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE BIRDS

[nrat 8]

WELL LADS ,

 

I THINK QUITE A FEW OF THE OLD WRITERS HAD VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE OF THE SUBJECT .................

 

FECK ME ........ COME TO THINK OF IT ............ MOST OF THE MODERN WRITERS AINT MUCH BETTER

 

IVE SEEN A FEW THINGS OVER THE YRS IN THIS GAME , SOME .......... YOU LADS WOULDNT BELIVE ....... AND I AINT TELLING , LETS JUST SAY THERES MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT

 

 

YEP , THE MAIN METHODS OF POACHING HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE NET , SNARE , DOGS AND GUNS ...... OTHER METHODS REALLY ARENT WAYS OF CATCHING GOOD AMOUNTS OF SALEABLE GAME , WHICH IS WHAT THE PROFESSIONAL AIMED FOR

 

 

 

 

ALL THE BEST

 

DUCKWING

not all poachers were doing it for a profit, most were doing it as a way to put food on the table

THE DIFFERANCE WITH MODERN POACHERS IS THEY DO IT FOR SPORT,AS MOST GAME MAKES VERY LITTLE MONEY