Kay 3,709 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 The only forces charity I give to is the British Legion , HFH only give 39% of whats collected to help service personnel.... far to many of these charitys springing up & there basically businesses & give bugger all to good causes I am finished with them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,236 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 This the same fifa which let the Irish wear the uprising shirt ! Did FIFA actually sanction it though? My understanding is the shirts were worn for two friendly games where I'm not sure FIFA have the same jurisdiction. FIFA have just started disciplinary proceeding over this .......... So FIFA didn't sanction the FAI's decision to go with the Easter rising badge. So then at least they're being consistent in not allowing the poppies. This isn't about FIFA not allowing the poppy, it's about not allowing anything. If they make a concession to one then they'll be under huge pressure to concede to others..., and maybe some things less straightforward or controversial than the poppy. I don't blame them. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hydropotesinermis 724 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 If they had any respect they wouldn't play. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,093 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 (edited) Id like to know roughly when this obsessively respectful culture came into play because it certainly wasnt around in the 50,s 60,s 70,s ,s 90,s.....infact its only the last few years ive seen footballers wearing poppies. Edited November 4, 2016 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Id like to know roughly when this obsessively respectful culture came into play because it certainly wasnt around in the 50,s 60,s 70,s ,s 90,s.....infact its only the last few years ive seen footballers wearing poppies. Your right Gnash , but I believe its wrong they didn't wear them in the eras you mention not that they wear them now . . I agree with your opinion on football celebrating / respecting virtually everything these days & minutes applause ect but I believe the Poppy and everything it stands for should be honoured by our national game !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 If we are going to do away with poppies then we can fcuk the minute silences off when the next tragedy happens.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,093 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 ect but I believe the Poppy and everything it stands for should be honoured by our national game !! Now when its put like that i guess you are probably right......im all for maintaining our values and traditions as a nation so yes ive probably got the whole " football having to be an example to society " thing wrong on this occasion......the game has always been massively important to the country so why shouldnt the game hold the countries values strong i can get that good man 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Id like to know roughly when this obsessively respectful culture came into play because it certainly wasnt around in the 50,s 60,s 70,s ,s 90,s.....infact its only the last few years ive seen footballers wearing poppies.Christmas day 1914, British and German troops laid down their weapons and played football together? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,568 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Id like to know roughly when this obsessively respectful culture came into play because it certainly wasnt around in the 50,s 60,s 70,s ,s 90,s.....infact its only the last few years ive seen footballers wearing poppies.Christmas day 1914, British and German troops laid down their weapons and played football together? Apparently the Germans won 5 ..4 on pens 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Every shop counter used to have a box of poppy's on it....you bought one you wore it was no big deal people including footballers them Its shitty modern Britain with its over the top PCness and SJW that cause the Problems Everyone's afraid to upset this bunch or that...now not many places even sell them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Every shop counter used to have a box of poppy's on it....you bought one you wore it was no big deal people including footballers them Its shitty modern Britain with its over the top PCness and SJW that cause the Problems Everyone's afraid to upset this bunch or that...now not many places even sell them was in town yesterday and not one poppy seller. .. none in the shops in went into either... only the local coop got a collection box in the village as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Yea co op has them here kay. As you said haven't seen any in big stores. Well as i said in an earlier post we were very much taught about the origins and importance of poppies in primary school. we bought them in class and we all wore one. been wearing one in Nov ever since. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,236 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Every shop counter used to have a box of poppy's on it....you bought one you wore it was no big deal people including footballers them Its shitty modern Britain with its over the top PCness and SJW that cause the Problems Everyone's afraid to upset this bunch or that...now not many places even sell them It's FIFA that have said they can't go on the shirts as it breaks their rules.., it's got nothing to do with 'shitty Britain', PCness or anything else. The FA's are probably going to go ahead and break the ruling anyway, which incidently I don't have a problem with, I just think we don't actually need poppies sewn onto shirts to start with. You talk about social justice warriors.., well what is this if it's not a storm in a tea cup whipped up by the poppy fascists? I bought my poppy last week off a big stall in Tesco. I bought fireworks yesterday in ASDA and they also had a stall in the shop. No-one seemed afraid of anything, and no-one was getting upset. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I'm surprised FIFA didn't sanction it because it would give an excuse to market commemorative shirts, but I agree with Gnasher on this one. Who's offended by poppies? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,236 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 The only forces charity I give to is the British Legion , HFH only give 39% of whats collected to help service personnel.... far to many of these charitys springing up & there basically businesses & give bugger all to good causes I am finished with them There's a thing on BBC Scotland this coming Tuesday 19.00 on military charities; The Great Military Charity Scandal - BBC Scotland Investigates, 2016 Military charities are big business. Every year millions of pounds are given in donations, but how much actually reaches those who need it? Reporter Sam Poling goes undercover to investigate whether some in the industry are simply cashing in on the public's goodwill. She catches on camera the sales tactics being used by supposed former veterans to line their own pockets and secretly films racist merchandise being sold by one military charity to raise funds. And she challenges the charities' regulatory system which allows all of this to happen. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b081zyhs Think you can get it South of the border on Sky Channel 951 or Freesat 960 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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