Ideal air rifle

[Guest Jonezie]

Hi im new to this forum and i was just wondering if you guys had any idea what air rifle would be best for me, im 15 years old and i want to hunt pests squirrels,rabbits etc

i have got a budget of about £150

any ideas would be well appreciated

 

Thanks

Jonezie

[Deker 3,478]

Basic guidelines (someone will shout at me)

 

.177 is for target

 

.22 is for hunting.

 

With your budget you will only be looking at "springers", there are plenty of Ok-Good ones about, Gamo and BSA are one and the same now but there are many more. Don't be tempted by ANYTHING made in China, they can appear excellent value for money...until you get them out of the box, and most of the Chinese struggle to make 8ft lb.

 

You may also end up with iron sights at that price especially if you are looking at the new market.

 

If you are looking second hand I would have thought that £150 would buy you a very respectable used springer gun/scope combination.

 

Spend as much as you can afford...not as little as you can get away with!

[dytkos 17,824]

Basic guidelines (someone will shout at me)

 

.177 is for target

 

.22 is for hunting.

 

With your budget you will only be looking at "springers", there are plenty of Ok-Good ones about, Gamo and BSA are one and the same now but there are many more. Don't be tempted by ANYTHING made in China, they can appear excellent value for money...until you get them out of the box, and most of the Chinese struggle to make 8ft lb.

 

You may also end up with iron sights at that price especially if you are looking at the new market.

 

If you are looking second hand I would have thought that £150 would buy you a very respectable used springer gun/scope combination.

 

Spend as much as you can afford...not as little as you can get away with!

Good advice!

[woodchip 2]

Basic guidelines (someone will shout at me)

 

.177 is for target

 

.22 is for hunting.

 

With your budget you will only be looking at "springers", there are plenty of Ok-Good ones about, Gamo and BSA are one and the same now but there are many more. Don't be tempted by ANYTHING made in China, they can appear excellent value for money...until you get them out of the box, and most of the Chinese struggle to make 8ft lb.

 

You may also end up with iron sights at that price especially if you are looking at the new market.

 

If you are looking second hand I would have thought that £150 would buy you a very respectable used springer gun/scope combination.

 

Spend as much as you can afford...not as little as you can get away with!

 

.177 for targets tell that to the rabbits, squirrels,pigeons,rats ,magpies,and everything else ive shot its a personal prefferance but ive shot .22 for nearly 20 yrs and ive just recently brought a .177 (8 months ago ) and i will never buy a .22 again but the rest of your advice isnt far off the mark.

[Deker 3,478]

Basic guidelines (someone will shout at me)

 

.177 is for target

 

.22 is for hunting.

 

With your budget you will only be looking at "springers", there are plenty of Ok-Good ones about, Gamo and BSA are one and the same now but there are many more. Don't be tempted by ANYTHING made in China, they can appear excellent value for money...until you get them out of the box, and most of the Chinese struggle to make 8ft lb.

 

You may also end up with iron sights at that price especially if you are looking at the new market.

 

If you are looking second hand I would have thought that £150 would buy you a very respectable used springer gun/scope combination.

 

Spend as much as you can afford...not as little as you can get away with!

 

.177 for targets tell that to the rabbits, squirrels,pigeons,rats ,magpies,and everything else ive shot its a personal prefferance but ive shot .22 for nearly 20 yrs and ive just recently brought a .177 (8 months ago ) and i will never buy a .22 again but the rest of your advice isnt far off the mark.

 

 

Didn't I say someone would shout... it's the general rule, simple as that you are allowed to aim .22 at a target and .177 at quarry...lets not confuse it even more by mentioning .20 or .25 eh!

[Guest jrt]

HW95k secondhand, i got one for £160 with v-s1 and scope you wont go wrong with a hw95k

with cal i could talk about it until im blue in the face mate.. try out and see which you prefer

Edited December 10, 2007 by jrt

[AIRGUNNER 1]

bsa lightning

[new2hunting 0]

bsa lightning

get one of these i have got one light too and iam only one year older than you

[targa 5]

I always adviced: get yourself a hw95 , but since a couple days I own a BSA Techstar FAC! 36ft/lbs!!! Jonezie, try to find a second hand techstar mate, they are fabulous!

 

the happy man

[outshooting 0]

Hi im new to this forum and i was just wondering if you guys had any idea what air rifle would be best for me, im 15 years old and i want to hunt pests squirrels,rabbits etc

i have got a budget of about £150

any ideas would be well appreciated

 

Thanks

Jonezie

 

Hi Joanzie, i dont want to piss on your bonfire but you may want to read this if you are only 15

 

You must be 18 years of age or older to buy or acquire an airgun and it is an offence for anyone to give someone under 18 an airgun as a gift.

You must be 18 years of age or older to buy ammunition for an airgun. Your airgun should be contained in a secure case if being carried in a public place.

You must be at least 18 years to carry your airgun in a public place and you must have lawful authority or a reasonable excuse for doing so.

Your airgun is considered ‘loaded’ if there is any form of projectile in the breech or magazine, regardless of whether or not the gun is cocked.

 

Under 18 years of age, you cannot be in possession of an airgun unless you are supervised by someone aged at least 21, or are using it at an approved club. However, from the age of 14, you can shoot your airgun on your own and without adult supervision provided you are on private land and have consent of the landowner. However, until you are 18, you are not allowed to carry your airgun to that land unless you are supervised by a person aged at least 21. In any event, the rules outlined in ‘Carrying Your Airgun’ (above) apply.

 

If you are aged under 14 years old, you can only shoot your airgun under the direct supervision of someone aged 21 years or older on land over which you have permission to shoot. The supervisor is legally responsible for the actions of the person they are supervising and no pellet must go outside the boundaries of the land. You can also use an airgun at Home Office-approved clubs or at a fairground shooting gallery for target shooting.

 

It is an offence to shoot your airgun on land where you have not been given permission to shoot by the occupier, usually the landowner or tenant. You cannot shoot on ‘common’ land.

You cannot shoot your airgun within 15 metres of the centre of a public highway if, in doing so, you are causing a nuisance or endangering the public.

 

It is an offence if you fire your pellets so that they land outside the boundary of the property where you have a right to shoot.

 

It is a serious offence to kill or injure any bird or protected animal with an airgun unless you are an ‘authorised’ person – i.e. you have proper shooting permission. Provided you are, the Secretary of State automatically issues you with a general ‘open’ licence every year for this purpose.

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

That new " Ban " is just so , OS. But, hey; Over here ye need a full blown f*ckin Firearms License for an Air Rifle. And don't even start Imagining posession of an Air Pistol! It's just Not going to happen!

 

 

Mheanwhile, Jonezie; If ye live on a smallholding and have a patiant Dad or older brother or what ever the hell it takes to get a young Field Sportsman his first tool these days ..... BSA Lightening.

 

To me, the straight, basic, Lightening looks like shit. To you, of course, it'd look like a dream come true anyway. But the Lightening XL has some chequering and that makes, in my eye, about 1,000% differance to the sheer beauty of the gun.

 

Ye should also know that there's a long and time honoured tradition on one camp yeling, " British Made BSA Lightening! ". Whilst the other side insist, " German HW95! ". No doubt this will still be going on long after I'm dead.

 

But; Whilst I'm still alive? If I had to carry either of those guns around for the rest of my days, unloaded and shooting at nothing? I'd choose the Lightening. They may well have named it that, partly, because it's Lightening the load on ones arms.

 

Firing rifles, as ye'll hopefully get to find out, is all about Knowing that when ye squeeze that trigger ye sending the projectile where ye mean it to go. No room for guess work and hope. It has to be a racing certainty. And, if ye arms are getting tired as ye work out all the permutations that have to come before ye fire? No good. Because Hoping that shakey, wavering cross hair is on target isn't the way. Ye need to Know ye aim is, right now, so rock steady and pin pointedly frozen on the spot that you're about to hit the 'Bull'. Not just somewhere around it.

 

Believe me; There's nothing worse than knowing ye 'scopes's pefrectly zeroed. The range is marked as spot on. The conditions are right ..... But the damn gun is starting to make that little muscle tired and ye just can't seem to hold the infernal rifle steady on the mark!

 

That's why I prefer the BSA over the Weihrauch. Weight and balance.

 

New Thread, anyone? Discussion?

[Malt 379]

Hi im new to this forum and i was just wondering if you guys had any idea what air rifle would be best for me, im 15 years old and i want to hunt pests squirrels,rabbits etc

i have got a budget of about £150

any ideas would be well appreciated

 

Thanks

Jonezie

 

Hi Joanzie, i dont want to piss on your bonfire but you may want to read this if you are only 15

 

You must be 18 years of age or older to buy or acquire an airgun and it is an offence for anyone to give someone under 18 an airgun as a gift.

You must be 18 years of age or older to buy ammunition for an airgun. Your airgun should be contained in a secure case if being carried in a public place.

You must be at least 18 years to carry your airgun in a public place and you must have lawful authority or a reasonable excuse for doing so.

Your airgun is considered ‘loaded’ if there is any form of projectile in the breech or magazine, regardless of whether or not the gun is cocked.

 

Under 18 years of age, you cannot be in possession of an airgun unless you are supervised by someone aged at least 21, or are using it at an approved club. However, from the age of 14, you can shoot your airgun on your own and without adult supervision provided you are on private land and have consent of the landowner. However, until you are 18, you are not allowed to carry your airgun to that land unless you are supervised by a person aged at least 21. In any event, the rules outlined in ‘Carrying Your Airgun’ (above) apply.

 

If you are aged under 14 years old, you can only shoot your airgun under the direct supervision of someone aged 21 years or older on land over which you have permission to shoot. The supervisor is legally responsible for the actions of the person they are supervising and no pellet must go outside the boundaries of the land. You can also use an airgun at Home Office-approved clubs or at a fairground shooting gallery for target shooting.

 

It is an offence to shoot your airgun on land where you have not been given permission to shoot by the occupier, usually the landowner or tenant. You cannot shoot on ‘common’ land.

You cannot shoot your airgun within 15 metres of the centre of a public highway if, in doing so, you are causing a nuisance or endangering the public.

 

It is an offence if you fire your pellets so that they land outside the boundary of the property where you have a right to shoot.

 

It is a serious offence to kill or injure any bird or protected animal with an airgun unless you are an ‘authorised’ person – i.e. you have proper shooting permission. Provided you are, the Secretary of State automatically issues you with a general ‘open’ licence every year for this purpose.

 

Well pointed out, OS. That law kinda snuck up on everone. The old law worked fine as it was for years. Yet again the government have to interfere.

[fishfish 17]

bsa lightning

 

i agree,and being oneof the lightest in weight its a good gun,its accounted for many meals in this family!

[Deker 3,478]

I would have to suggest the Lightning as well. The HW is excellent, but overengineered and heavy from my point of view.

 

The changes in the law re Air guns from 1 October actually make ownership/usage more difficult than SGC and FAC in some cases. Now... don't get me wrong but these changes were introduced because of the way airguns were being used by some, the media coverage that got, and repeated warnings not working. So, so many people in this country start their shooting lives with airguns, they are the future of our sport so please act responsibly or we will have no future. Off the soap box now.

 

Cheers

 

Deker

[Guest Jonezie]

i am 15 though so i can shoot on my own land or land with permission without supervision so im allright