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I guess you could call me old fashironed, others just call me a miserable cnut, but I don't feel the need to fit in with the crowd,and go out every weekend and drink and sniff my way through my weeks

I'm always glad to hear it gets easier because it's certainly not easy now. The kids are warm/fed and want for nowt though and that's all that matters to me.

Looks like I'm the odd one out.......   I've lived under 11 different Prime Ministers - and I've been poor under every one of the f***ers !

Everything is relative, sure mortgages are bonkers now and I can't see why there isn't an exodus from London (£500 room) to more normal places where £500-700 is a house mortgage.

 

People have a slanted view now, must have a mobile contract at £300 per year, can't do without a car, can't make do with a banger, can't home service - what £50 a year?

 

Then there is the TV/games console malarky, £30 a game.

 

And takeaways, now and again for treat maybe but home made food is much nicer.

 

OMG now I have started.

It's not relative down here.

My first flat was 3 1/2 times my salary, now the same flat is 12 times.

As for consoles, we went out all weekend on the piss, a lot of youngsters now stay in and use Play Stations.

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I said "stop the ride I want to get off " two years ago........wish I had done it 22 years ago.......but hey, better late than never.

Anyway the government, mortgage company, congestion charge people, council tax man, parking wardens and any other official busy body can all go and f**k themselves now and not a minute before time I say ! Lol

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you were first married and you struggled to pay the morgage and keep the family with food and clothes and bills,its funny in life when your getting older you have more money then you know what to do with,i think its because everything is paid off your house is more or less paid for and you have the house done to the standards you want it done like,and your kids are up,when i was younger i had a nice car but hardly had the money to run it ,i now have a merc a pajero and my astra van for the birds of prey,but i still remember the hard days where me and our lass flicked a coin to see who was going out on a friday night and who was staying inn

I always think we've got it the wrong way round. you should have money when your kids are young. Comparatively, I'm well off now but I would rather have had it when the kids were younger. It's a pity you don't know how long you are going to live, then you could spend or give away your savings to your kids and know there's no reason to hold onto it.

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I help out my kids even though they're all working in good jobs. I'm also, gardner, decorator, builder, and supplier of holidays for them, but I like to do that and my wife has them round all the time for meals, going walking etc. They tend to tag along now with me and the wife, which we like.

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I help out my kids even though they're all working in good jobs. I'm also, gardner, decorator, builder, and supplier of holidays for them, but I like to do that and my wife has them round all the time for meals, going walking etc. They tend to tag along now with me and the wife, which we like.

I thought the spending on kids stopped when they left home and got jobs. :nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:

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Imo it's much more important to pass something down,the old people who are soon to die are getting increasingly selfish as time goes on.

As property prices and the cost of living rises,they're leaving less and less to their children,spending as much as they can before they die.

 

"Society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."

I'll work my whole life to sort out my family,not go on 20 cruises when I'm 65.

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Imo it's much more important to pass something down,the old people who are soon to die are getting increasingly selfish as time goes on.

As property prices and the cost of living rises,they're leaving less and less to their children,spending as much as they can before they die.

 

"Society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."

I'll work my whole life to sort out my family,not go on 20 cruises when I'm 65.

Any stats to support this view Neems? Anecdotally, everybody i know that's my age spends a lot on their kids. Both my kids are higher wage earners and their wives work too albeit part-time. Yet it's me who who is the family banker. (that's not rhyming slang) i'm not complaining, I enjoy treating them and my grandchildren.

I think the stats would show that oldies like myself spend far more on their adult children than at any other time in history-for two reasons:1) we have more disposable income and 2) we live long enough to spend it.

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Imo it's much more important to pass something down,the old people who are soon to die are getting increasingly selfish as time goes on.

As property prices and the cost of living rises,they're leaving less and less to their children,spending as much as they can before they die.

 

"Society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."

I'll work my whole life to sort out my family,not go on 20 cruises when I'm 65.

Any stats to support this view Neems? Anecdotally, everybody i know that's my age spends a lot on their kids. Both my kids are higher wage earners and their wives work too albeit part-time. Yet it's me who who is the family banker. (that's not rhyming slang) i'm not complaining, I enjoy treating them and my grandchildren.

I think the stats would show that oldies like myself spend far more on their adult children than at any other time in history-for two reasons:1) we have more disposable income and 2) we live long enough to spend it.

 

 

http://www.primaryhomeworkhelp.co.uk/war/1960s.html

 

ref average price of a house in the 60's(2,530),I can't find a source but the average yearly salary was around £700

About 4 years wage.

Now the average house in the UK costs £288,000,over ten times the average household income.

 

 

Meaning young people need much more help,it'd be impossible to prove they inherit less as a % though,you can't really track old peoples accounts to know how much they blew before they died,just that their kids inherit on average 60k when the average house price alone is 288k,doesn't add up.

 

Mostly anecdotal,I know but a lot of old people I've known (I live in an area packed with them) are more concerned with going on expensive holidays,buying new cars regularly and 'enjoying retirement' than helping their children/grandchildren face the massive struggles which they (the baby boomer generation) caused by allowing mass immigration.

 

Lower wages and higher property prices.

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Imo it's much more important to pass something down,the old people who are soon to die are getting increasingly selfish as time goes on.

As property prices and the cost of living rises,they're leaving less and less to their children,spending as much as they can before they die.

 

"Society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."

I'll work my whole life to sort out my family,not go on 20 cruises when I'm 65.

 

Any stats to support this view Neems? Anecdotally, everybody i know that's my age spends a lot on their kids. Both my kids are higher wage earners and their wives work too albeit part-time. Yet it's me who who is the family banker. (that's not rhyming slang) i'm not complaining, I enjoy treating them and my grandchildren.

I think the stats would show that oldies like myself spend far more on their adult children than at any other time in history-for two reasons:1) we have more disposable income and 2) we live long enough to spend it.

http://www.primaryhomeworkhelp.co.uk/war/1960s.html

 

ref average price of a house in the 60's(2,530),I can't find a source but the average yearly salary was around £700

About 4 years wage.

Now the average house in the UK costs £288,000,over ten times the average household income.

 

 

Meaning young people need much more help,it'd be impossible to prove they inherit less as a % though,you can't really track old peoples accounts to know how much they blew before they died,just that their kids inherit on average 60k when the average house price alone is 288k,doesn't add up.

 

Mostly anecdotal,I know but a lot of old people I've known (I live in an area packed with them) are more concerned with going on expensive holidays,buying new cars regularly and 'enjoying retirement' than helping their children/grandchildren face the massive struggles which they (the baby boomer generation) caused by allowing mass immigration.

 

Lower wages and higher property prices.

Good luck to them I say, it's their twilight years ffs.......I haven't took a penny off my parents since I started working. They are in their mid 70's now leading separate lives & they can spend every last penny as far as I'm concerned........I wish they'd done more to be honest.

 

There are always ways & means....without relying on hand outs........,but maybe I'm wrong

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