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It's all very well shouting about the Geneva convention and the rules of combat etc ... but these rules were written by men in offices wearing smart suites and clean shirts ... the reality is that nob

yep if I get caught digging somewhere I shouldn't and get done then them the rules and there's nothing I can or you can do about it...when you know you're breaking the rules and you get caught there's

Once the rat who downloaded the footage made it accessible ,there wasn't much option but to go through the courts ,justice has to be seen to be done and all that ,hopefully the man is looked after whe

 

Morally no, but it happened during the war. I guess it depends on the individual soldiers.If they can live with there actions after.A lot of SS camp guards who surrendered were just summary executed.

I actually cant fault them in a way. The sights they saw when they liberated those camps were bound to offer out quick justice.

 

However for a winning side to walk over a battlefield shooting the injured. No that would be wrong.

You're only the winning side once you've won. It's not down to the individual soldiers though, if rules are there then they must be followed.

 

thats allwell and good but like socks said rules are were made by ex public school boys behind a desk in whitehall .not on the battlefield .

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The flip side to it is what about POW? Should we shoot those that have surrendered???

it would be cheaper than feeding them :thumbs:

I doubt your views are the same on Allied POW's during war....

 

but many men died of starvation in burma .allied troops .captured by the japs

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The flip side to it is what about POW? Should we shoot those that have surrendered???

Personally, If terms of surrender are agreed then they should be honored. Likewise if the Laws of War are generally being honored then so be it, wounded and captured should get PoW status. But if not and if you decide to stand and fight and get overwhelmed then you made your bed and will lie in it, you're in the hands of your enemy at that point.

 

In WWII SS were executed by the Allies on the battlefield and Commandos got the same treatment by the Nazis. It wasn't Butlins for conventional troops but they got more respectful treatment as wounded or captured by the enemy.

The Soviets also executed tens of thousands of Polish Military Officers in the Katyn Massacre, there's no such thing as moral or just in war....

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Morally no, but it happened during the war. I guess it depends on the individual soldiers.If they can live with there actions after.A lot of SS camp guards who surrendered were just summary executed.

I actually cant fault them in a way. The sights they saw when they liberated those camps were bound to offer out quick justice.

 

However for a winning side to walk over a battlefield shooting the injured. No that would be wrong.

You're only the winning side once you've won. It's not down to the individual soldiers though, if rules are there then they must be followed.

thats allwell and good but like socks said rules are were made by ex public school boys behind a desk in whitehall .not on the battlefield .

You do know that the ex-public schoolboys are a massive part of the British Military???

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The flip side to it is what about POW? Should we shoot those that have surrendered???

it would be cheaper than feeding them :thumbs:
I doubt your views are the same on Allied POW's during war....

but many men died of starvation in burma .allied troops .captured by the japs

Exactly, cheaper than feeding them then???

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The flip side to it is what about POW? Should we shoot those that have surrendered???

it would be cheaper than feeding them :thumbs:
I doubt your views are the same on Allied POW's during war....

but many men died of starvation in burma .allied troops .captured by the japs

Exactly, cheaper than feeding them then???

 

correct .. plus the fact they were very cruel folk the japs .i had a uncle who spent along time in india burma and madagasca fighting them .a big strong man he was a rwf he didnt speak to much about what went on but the fact that i mentioned once i was in diego suares madagascar he said i was there after burma ,you have a uncle laying in the graveyard there he was killed the day we landed there , he never mentioned burma but i guess it was no fun

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Regardless of who wrote them Blackman knew the rules and signed up to follow them and now he gets to face the consequences of breaking those rules.

 

If he didn't like the rules or want to follow them he shouldn't have signed up.

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The British army are the most professional in the world, they are that for a reason.

You know full well you can't just cut about plugging injured prisoners....everybody knows it!......and certainly not when you are warring recording equipment.

It completely f***ing stupid......the bloke plugged an unarmed man and recorded it.....what the hell was he thinking?

 

Simply being in uniform does not give you carte Blanche to be a f***ing idiot whenever you feel like it.

If the system breaks down then it all gos to shit......that will have been drummed into that soldier for years so he had no excuse to forget.

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As I've said through this whole thread it's easy to sit back in your arm chairs and condem a man who's shoes you've never walked in .........

That's true, by I would ask you, should senior NCOs be going Raul Moat when on ops ?...............if you can't be trusted to keep your head then you can't be trusted.

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he made a mistake,but prob made thousands of correct actions by shooting cowardly suicide bombers and ied planters.what would your mindset be worry about every step your legs n bollox may be blown off.bullets whistling over your head,thats a terrifying thing listenening to bullets go by.some drinkdriver uninsured car thief that kills someone gets less than blackmen did.disgrace this country.getting walked over

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As I've said through this whole thread it's easy to sit back in your arm chairs and condem a man who's shoes you've never walked in .........

problem is he didn't kill enough, kill a man your a murderer, kill thousands your a hero. It's only the anti British which wish to keep him in jail
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