Shit On By The Country He Served

[socks 32,253]

8 years seems a reasonable sentence for what he did. They were sitting around, weren't taking fire and it seemed like he killed the guy just for the notch on his belt. That his comrades kept, downloaded and shared the video is damming of them all and gives and idea of their mindset.

 

If you go into a foreign country that hasn't attacked yours and are there to kill the locals you should know you'll be held accountable.

 

That the Taliban are back in control says it all.

 

Bitter Lake on iPlayer is worth a watch. All for nothing, I feel very sorry for the people killed on injured out there, but if you went around killing people outside ROE then a reasonable sentence seems just. Operating outside of the rules makes you a terrorist.

"They were sitting around and weren't taking fire" it's clear to me you know nothing of war or a battle situation if that's your take on it ... maybe educate yourself first before coming out with rediciolous statements .......

[socks 32,253]

 

 

 

 

I still cant for the life of me understand why its illegal to kill the enemy in a war whether they are injured or not.

 

It's quite simple gnash ... the rules are made by public school boys sat in Whitehall in their clean pressed shirts and Italian suites and not by guys who have been on the sharp end belly down in blood and piss with bullets landing all around you ......

is that us covered for the two brits at the funeral then

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean ... are you talking about the two signal lads that were murdered ??? ......

yeah but it the similarity im referring too of being captured disarmed an then executed

Similarity ??????? ..... are you actually seriously saying that the two lads that were innocently murdered by a gang of cowards is even remotely the same as killing an enemy after a fire fight ... give your head a shake .......

[riohog 5,701]

 

 

 

Im sure there may have been isolated cases. Although i have watched endless hours and read many books on ww2 and i cant think of any allegations of that nature against the british.

 

However the red army were gang raping women and children throughout germany. Berlin the main one.Even in front of there parents and children. The river spree was floating with dead bodies of women who drowned themselfs and thier kids rather than be raped by the red army. Read the book "rape of berlin".

 

The women of the red army weren't much better. Mutilating the genitals of german men.

They were still doing it in the occupied sector well after the war was over. In fact it was the start of the allies realising maybe not such a good idea being allies. The cold war started soon after.

I know we became allies with the Ruskies by default but they were just as bad as the Germans. I'd have much rather us made peace with the Germans and let nature take it's course on the eastern front....

 

Eastern Europe didn't exactly thrive post war.

the old saying aplied with the brits and ruskis

" the enemy of the enemy is my friend!!.".

Doesn't make sense to me though, I know who's side I'd rather be on.

 

its not complicated it was an aliance at the time the ruskis got the job done you may not agree with the way they did it but thats war and folk die .remember many many men died supplng the ruskis with food and war tools in the arctic convoys so britain needed russia at the time ,didnt have to like them but needed there support ..

[Bryan 1,362]

 

8 years seems a reasonable sentence for what he did. They were sitting around, weren't taking fire and it seemed like he killed the guy just for the notch on his belt. That his comrades kept, downloaded and shared the video is damming of them all and gives and idea of their mindset.

 

If you go into a foreign country that hasn't attacked yours and are there to kill the locals you should know you'll be held accountable.

 

That the Taliban are back in control says it all.

 

Bitter Lake on iPlayer is worth a watch. All for nothing, I feel very sorry for the people killed on injured out there, but if you went around killing people outside ROE then a reasonable sentence seems just. Operating outside of the rules makes you a terrorist.

"They were sitting around and weren't taking fire" it's clear to me you know nothing of war or a battle situation if that's your take on it ... maybe educate yourself first before coming out with rediciolous statements .......

 

 

Listen to the audio of the video and it's clear.

[Bryan 1,362]

 

 

 

 

 

I still cant for the life of me understand why its illegal to kill the enemy in a war whether they are injured or not.

It's quite simple gnash ... the rules are made by public school boys sat in Whitehall in their clean pressed shirts and Italian suites and not by guys who have been on the sharp end belly down in blood and piss with bullets landing all around you ......

is that us covered for the two brits at the funeral then

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean ... are you talking about the two signal lads that were murdered ??? ......

yeah but it the similarity im referring too of being captured disarmed an then executed

Similarity ??????? ..... are you actually seriously saying that the two lads that were innocently murdered by a gang of cowards is even remotely the same as killing an enemy after a fire fight ... give your head a shake .......

 

 

I can't hear the firefight

 

[socks 32,253]

It was just after a firefight so they wouldn't be " just sitting around "

[scothunter 12,609]

That SAS guy the scottish one is under investigation aswell. He gave two iraqis the coup de grace ..

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

 

 

 

Im sure there may have been isolated cases. Although i have watched endless hours and read many books on ww2 and i cant think of any allegations of that nature against the british.

 

However the red army were gang raping women and children throughout germany. Berlin the main one.Even in front of there parents and children. The river spree was floating with dead bodies of women who drowned themselfs and thier kids rather than be raped by the red army. Read the book "rape of berlin".

 

The women of the red army weren't much better. Mutilating the genitals of german men.

They were still doing it in the occupied sector well after the war was over. In fact it was the start of the allies realising maybe not such a good idea being allies. The cold war started soon after.

I know we became allies with the Ruskies by default but they were just as bad as the Germans. I'd have much rather us made peace with the Germans and let nature take it's course on the eastern front....

 

Eastern Europe didn't exactly thrive post war.

the old saying aplied with the brits and ruskis

" the enemy of the enemy is my friend!!.".

Doesn't make sense to me though, I know who's side I'd rather be on.

its not complicated it was an aliance at the time the ruskis got the job done you may not agree with the way they did it but thats war and folk die .remember many many men died supplng the ruskis with food and war tools in the arctic convoys so britain needed russia at the time ,didnt have to like them but needed there support ..

I don't think so, Hitler would have left us well alone if we called a truce. We declared war on Germany after they invaded Poland but basically did fcuk all about it anyway. We should have stayed out of both wars, we would be in a better state now if we had IMO. Edited November 1, 2016 by DogFox123

[Born Hunter 17,763]

I wonder how many people think that the SAS soldiers involved in the embassy siege who essentially executed the two terrorists in the telex room that hostage eye witnesses say had disarmed themselves and surrendered (along with video evidence of them discarding their weapons) should also be imprisoned for murder? It's also widely known that one of the troopers intended to execute the one surviving terrorist until he was told he was on camera! Probably best to do him for attempted murder too.

 

Our country sent Sgt Blackman to the most violent place on this planet where everyone, including some of his allies, are your potential killer or kidnapper. He was expected to kill only when a life was in immediate threat from an enemy that would mutilate and behead him with no regard for the gentlemanly warfare he is expected to conduct. He was directed to sweep the area where moments prior this enemy had just been engaged by a British Apache in defence of an attack, finding a seriously wounded enemy combatant. A member of the same enemy that moment prior was trying to kill other members of his Force and have been and would continue to mutilate and kill them given any chance.

 

But our lads are expected to be the better men and treat them as if not a very ungentlemanly enemy with the intention of doing horrendous acts to them...... no no just forget all that lads, that mortally wounded b*****d laying in front of you who moments ago was a legal target is now your best mate.

[scothunter 12,609]

Russia signed a peace pact with hitler but that didn't stop him invading russia under the guise of a military training exercise.

So no you couldn't have counted on any truce with hitler. Do you honestly think he would have left us alone once he conquered Europe. He would have set his sights on us and all we had when our guard was down.

[lanesra 3,994]

I wonder how many people think that the SAS soldiers involved in the embassy siege who essentially executed the two terrorists in the telex room that hostage eye witnesses say had disarmed themselves and surrendered (along with video evidence of them discarding their weapons) should also be imprisoned for murder? It's also widely known that one of the troopers intended to execute the one surviving terrorist until he was told he was on camera! Probably best to do him for attempted murder too.

 

Our country sent Sgt Blackman to the most violent place on this planet where everyone, including some of his allies, are your potential killer or kidnapper. He was expected to kill only when a life was in immediate threat from an enemy that would mutilate and behead him with no regard for the gentlemanly warfare he is expected to conduct. He was directed to sweep the area where moments prior this enemy had just been engaged by a British Apache in defence of an attack, finding a seriously wounded enemy combatant. A member of the same enemy that moment prior was trying to kill other members of his Force and have been and would continue to mutilate and kill them given any chance.

 

But our lads are expected to be the better men and treat them as if not a very ungentlemanly enemy with the intention of doing horrendous acts to them...... no no just forget all that lads, that mortally wounded b*****d laying in front of you who moments ago was a legal target is now your best mate.

I totally agree with the outcome in the Iranian Embassy . . Anyone carrying out what the terrorists did have no rights whatsoever IMO . . Pity the same didn't happen at the Libian Embassy when Yvonne Fletcher was murdered !!

[shepp 2,285]

The army should lay down their weapons until he is released.

[DogFox123 1,379]

Russia signed a peace pact with hitler but that didn't stop him invading russia under the guise of a military training exercise.

So no you couldn't have counted on any truce with hitler. Do you honestly think he would have left us alone once he conquered Europe. He would have set his sights on us and all we had when our guard was down.

He wanted to take over the world with blonde haired blue eyed monsters then??????

[scothunter 12,609]

No your just being flippant now.

[DogFox123 1,379]

No your just being flippant now.

He had no plans whatsoever of invading Britain prior to WW2, that cannot be said for the Soviet Union. Hitler stated as early as 1925 that he planned on invading the USSR in Mein Kampf.

Edited November 1, 2016 by DogFox123