tomburras 2,730 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 After recently buying another old 1987 HW85 and having a play this morning it is shooting within 22 fps variation over 20 shots and has a fair bit of recoil and twang.It is also very graunchy when cocking. Today I took it apart for to look inside and have a think about what to do next. I thaught I'd share my findings incase anyone is interested..... Cut spring Bent spring A very rough chewed up spring guide with a few metal filings come off Piston seal is sold! And loose on the piston like a wobbly tooth. Theres been light graunching between the piston and cyl wall probably filings from that nasty spring guide! 4 Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Now to decide what to do next! I'm in no rush. I'm thinking about a dam good polish then maybe a drop in kit? Or should I keep it standard? Quote Link to post
j j m 6,560 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 i like them standard,but eache to there own 1 Quote Link to post
si brown 8,486 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 i had a piston seal like that a while ago tom it had swollen up due to age so i shaved it with a dremil, not ideal but did the trick! it was that tight it had bent the pin that holds it on too, so i battered it straight ish but so it wouldn't fall out ! not perfect but did the trick!! whats the brown sauce for?! is it the next moly slip atb si 2 Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Never noticed the brown sauce - well spotted I was looking for it the other day lol. 2 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,811 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Should be nice when you get it sorted Tom whats the stock like on it looking forward to seeing her done and what she shoots like keep her standard i say mind every one seems to be getting the old classics at the moment atvbmac :thumbs: 2 Quote Link to post
flynndog 543 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Spring is nice and straight loo Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Should be nice when you get it sorted Tom whats the stock like on it looking forward to seeing her done and what she shoots like keep her standard i say mind every one seems to be getting the old classics at the moment atvbmac :thumbs: The stock has a couple of tiny marks otherwise it is as new! A real sleeper! I'll have a think and update when I start work on it again. Quote Link to post
nath92 84 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Sorry mate but we need more pics just the inards aint enough Atb Nath Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Oops sorry Nath it's in bits now. I'm just polishing the piston now. I'll put some pics on when it's back together. I'm thinking of fitting a tbt kit and trying to create a very nice to use classic. 1 Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Hate those four way bent spring guides... Will you be updating that? Just they way there cut, rough as arseholes. 1 Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Rez I think I'm going to keep it standard. A good debur/polish only to remove its age old minor scrapes caused by filings from its origional spring guide and fit original spring. But with a new standard piston seal and a delrin bottom spring guide. They build an amazing quality gun then cut the spring and then fit shite like that. I cannot understand it. Its like building a quality oak cabinate with a plywood bottom. If I keep it standard apart from a polish and an newer spring guide is it standard? Im only honing away the slight scrapes from the shards of metal the shit spring guide has shed and caused. Theres no way I'd fit that bit of chopped and flatten pipe shite back in what where they thinking! An amazing gun with a chopped spring and a spring guide like that. I'll be keeping it as origional as possible but they won't be replaced parts like that. Guys... What is classed as standard? If I only replace that horrific spring guide with delrin one and polish the damage out is it still standard? Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Get a Vortek piston seal for it as well mate. 1 Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Get a Vortek piston seal for it as well mate. Thank you I will look into them. Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I been looking online but can't find a Vortek piston seal. Do you know where I can get one? Quote Link to post
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