3/4 Bull X

[gnasher16 30,217]

Im new to all these crosses so far be it from me but i cant help thinking some of these dogs with a lot of bulldog in them are a bit " sledgehammer to crack a nut " type scenarios....just seems a bit like overkill to me,pardon the pun.

[terryd 8,517]

Exactly how much drive do you actually need in a dog.

[gnasher16 30,217]

I wouldnt imagine you can have too much drive but size,strength and general savagery........what are these dogs going up against crocodile ?

[South hams hunter 8,924]

4 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

I wouldnt imagine you can have too much drive but size,strength and general savagery........what are these dogs going up against crocodile ?

It's the number sometimes, if there was a balance they'd perhaps use it. Alot of crosses won't go on season after season 

[Black neck 16,034]

26 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

I wouldnt imagine you can have too much drive but size,strength and general savagery........what are these dogs going up against crocodile ?

Ya can allus a t little ya can ner a t much

[gnasher16 30,217]

24 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

It's the number sometimes, if there was a balance they'd perhaps use it. Alot of crosses won't go on season after season 

But then doesnt breeding and conditioning account for most of that ?......the one thing im noticing thats very different with Lurcher breeding to how Bulldogs were bred is Lurchers seem to be bred very much for short term success.....bulldogs were more about long term plans for short terms goals whereas Lurchers seem more about the here and now short term plans for short terms goals,the constant different crosses suggest theres always something missing......and maybe the thing thats missing is breeding ?

Or maybe im just overthinking things 

[socks 32,253]

When I’m breeding or buying a lurcher in I’m certainly not looking at a quick gain ... I want a dog that will work day in day out for season after season ...... 

[dogmandont 9,843]

Bulldogs are bulldogs gnasher and it doesn’t matter where in the world you are the game doesn’t change and same rules apply ( if you take it seriously ) where as lurchers and what breed you use is personal preference as there’s any number of different crosses that will do the same job and so many different jobs. The same thing applies about not planning ahead because a decent lurcher will have 6 or 7 good seasons in it whereas a bulldog won’t so a fancier is always thinking about the next generation. In saying that there is plenty of line bred stuff about if you know where to look. 

[dogmandont 9,843]

2 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

I wouldnt imagine you can have too much drive but size,strength and general savagery........what are these dogs going up against crocodile ?

You’d be surprised how many bull bred lurchers the humble little fox has made find their voice. 

[South hams hunter 8,924]

2 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

But then doesnt breeding and conditioning account for most of that ?......the one thing im noticing thats very different with Lurcher breeding to how Bulldogs were bred is Lurchers seem to be bred very much for short term success.....bulldogs were more about long term plans for short terms goals whereas Lurchers seem more about the here and now short term plans for short terms goals,the constant different crosses suggest theres always something missing......and maybe the thing thats missing is breeding ?

Or maybe im just overthinking things 

No conditioning doesn't mate, some crosses just don't have what people are after. Bull blood gives several thing that alot lack and would cross would never fit; they'd need the speed of a lightweight and power of a heavyweight, run marathons but also sprints as well as brains but not too much

[billhardy 2,342]

On 19 October 2016 at 15:11, Gaz_1989 said:

I can see what Katcum is getting at though...

 

If the half cross bull/grey isn't doing the job well enough and needs more bull blood adding then should they be getting bred from? When there are half crosses out there doing the job?

 

I've seen the 3/4 reverse crosses. Handy dogs for certain jobs. But a good half cross should do the job too and also be more versatile?

 

Edited to add maybe the lads just fancied the 3/4 reverse cross. Who knows

On 19 October 2016 at 15:24, W. Katchum said:

Id love to know who breeds a bull back into a 3/4 bred and why? Haha i reckon ye just been caught chatting shite like a few other times and now ye just try argue ye way out it haha the lines mentioned were good enough to be had by the owner, but yet neither the breeder of punch an havoc nor reese breed or ever have kept 3/4 bulls, wonder why? Haha

 

For the record, i dont keep bullx and prob never will again, and ill leave yous to chat shite about 3/4 bulls lol

Ones right katchum fa once,I totally agree there slots a the reverse type shite been around us ,they can Neva compare to a good line bred or f1 bred from good the right stock more holes been dig for these here parts than the local bone yard .atb bill

[Gilbey 1,441]

3 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

But then doesnt breeding and conditioning account for most of that ?......the one thing im noticing thats very different with Lurcher breeding to how Bulldogs were bred is Lurchers seem to be bred very much for short term success.....bulldogs were more about long term plans for short terms goals whereas Lurchers seem more about the here and now short term plans for short terms goals,the constant different crosses suggest theres always something missing......and maybe the thing thats missing is breeding ?

Or maybe im just overthinking things 

there's 12th gen collie x greys. 13th gen deerhound x greys. Bull greys that have been going since the bulldogs came over and saluki lurchers that have been going since salukis were available...

[robertb123 372]

didn't that Lord Orford cross Bulldogs into his greyhounds in the 1700s?

[Crackers 807]

I’ve had 1 3/4 reverse bull x very good dog round a hole absolutely off its head... couldn’t do much more than been round a hole really but loved it... red dog ended up going Scotland 

Edited February 23, 2019 by Crackers

[dogmandont 9,843]

24 minutes ago, Crackers said:

I’ve had 1 3/4 reverse bull x very good dog round a hole absolutely off its head... couldn’t do much more than been round a hole really but loved it... red dog ended up going Scotland 

Did you have it as a pup? Reason I ask is I know of a red 3/4 that when over your way a while back. He was actually a buckskin coloured dog. 

Edited February 23, 2019 by dogmandont