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[scottish lurcher 185]

 

 

American cars use old technology rear wheel drive which is good but most have no lsd . Most use live rear axles are heavy and slow . The inside are so cheap and plasticky looking , even they so called super cars they build are shite .

i think you are talking out of your arse mate, i have asked you four times what american car/truck you have had, that makes you say they are shit, but because of a bit of plastic on the dash, you class them as shit without ever owning one, yet again, you have never had a supercar from america, and they are still shit...name me some cars/trucks that don't have plastic on the dashboard? i take it you have seen the newer toyota's/mitsubishi's/izuzu's etc....

I wouldn't like a penis in my arse doesn't mean u have to try one to know u don't like them if America trucks are so great how have they never caught on in oz .as there fuel is cheap like America and has lot of off-roading in the out back .sorry if iam wrong and disagree with you lad your on here preaching how great America cars are you day iam talking bolloxes about the old fashion engineering the use I think u need to look under the hood !! Piles of shite to cart fat yanks about they have to make them so large to fit these fat slobs about as yes all cars have plastic dashes but America ones allways look so cheap that's what I said , if you like these cars then that's great 6 ltrs engines that do 10 mpg I bought new ford ranger 3.2 owned for about two weeks thinking of get rid of this pimp truck as and go back to l200 or hilux

[tillylamp 1,830]

 

 

American cars use old technology rear wheel drive which is good but most have no lsd . Most use live rear axles are heavy and slow . The inside are so cheap and plasticky looking , even they so called super cars they build are shite .

i think you are talking out of your arse mate, i have asked you four times what american car/truck you have had, that makes you say they are shit, but because of a bit of plastic on the dash, you class them as shit without ever owning one, yet again, you have never had a supercar from america, and they are still shit...name me some cars/trucks that don't have plastic on the dashboard? i take it you have seen the newer toyota's/mitsubishi's/izuzu's etc....

I wouldn't like a penis in my arse doesn't mean u have to try one to know u don't like them if America trucks are so great how have they never caught on in oz .as there fuel is cheap like America and has lot of off-roading in the out back .sorry if iam wrong and disagree with you lad your on here preaching how great America cars are you day iam talking bolloxes about the old fashion engineering the use I think u need to look under the hood !! Piles of shite to cart fat yanks about they have to make them so large to fit these fat slobs about as yes all cars have plastic dashes but America ones allways look so cheap that's what I said , if you like these cars then that's great 6 ltrs engines that do 10 mpg I bought new ford ranger 3.2 owned for about two weeks thinking of get rid of this pimp truck as and go back to l200 or hilux

 

i totally agree, i wouldn't like a penis stuck up my arse either...i have no idea why they don't have american trucks in oz, but i would say it's because they use a lot of toyota's plus their own makes, and to make things clear, if you will listen, i'm not preaching to anyone about the american cars/trucks, it started out, that i said, that i thought they where a good motor, but you said that they were shit, when you have never had one, which i thought was a bit of an unfair thing to state when you have never used one, so how would you know?

you asked me, what cars have they produced that are any good...so i gave you a list of some good cars that have been popular and proven here and still going strong, but you still insisted that they were shit!

yes i think there trucks are really good, they can carry and tow some impressive weights, any truck that can tow 14 ton is no light weight piece of shit!!

a lot of the trucks here (as you say pimped) are standard, some have all the bells and whistles on them, and some have half of them, but you can buy any kit you like to custom them, straight off of the shelf, and it's normal here to jazz your truck, but no one bats an eye lid at doing it,

if you had said, there not my cup of tea, i would have said....fare enough mate,

my truck is the dodge ram sport model, with the bomb proof 5.7 hemi turbo engine, it's pretty quick off the mark, and i get 22mpg on a run, which isn't that bad for a big truck, i'm not telling you all this about my truck, because it's an extension to my penis (unlike others think) it's a standard truck with a lot of bells and whistles as standard...

they have just made a new diesel turbo 1500 ram with a 3.0l engine, it does 35mpg, yet again, the standard model will have some pretty nice extras on it, but someone with throw there personal touch on top, when they get it home,

like i said earlier, there not built to accommodate large people, far from it, as the trucks don't get any wider as a person gets wider, mind you Britain has 65% of obese people now so by your thought, the cars will be getting bigger!!!

i'm not trying to convert you over to the american trucks, what i'm saying is....try looking a bit further than the end of your nose, before you judge something...

[Greyman 28,361]

That review with Hammond was not on a Grand Cherokee, it was a Cherokee Sport. Two completely different motors.

 

I've always had Land Rovers, but thought I'd try a Grand Cherokee. It's got a 3.0ltr V6 Mercedes engine and with its Quad drive and a set of decent tires, I've yet to get it stuck.

Loads of grunt and much more fun to drive than most 4 x 4 s I've driven. Costly on parts though and shite on fuel.

yeah and cos it America the dash will look like it made out of old telephones and creek like mad

there not that bad mate, i take it you don't like the american trucks?

if there anything like there cars they will be piles of

what american car have you had mate, to know that they are shit? (as you say)....i can assure you there trucks are every bit as good...and more, as the ones in Britain, see...i can compare as we've had trucks in the family back there, along with friends as well...and iv'e had two american trucks here, to be honest....they put there trucks through its paces far more here, than anyone does there, look at it this way....they could never be as crap as a land rover.

funny that because I was just trying to think of a make of 4x4 that I have,nt had to tow out the mud in my old Landy, and the good old Cherokee is on there as are most Toyota,s except the old land cruiser, nissans and Vauxhall frontera,s by the bucketload, like in the uk the Americans sacrificed off-road ability with comfort and speed the original Willy,s were your crowning moment and we copied it with the original land rovers, since then we have slowly made them more road user friendly and less capable of doing the job they were designed for

hey...the land rover was a good off roader,( when they didn't break down or leak ) but other than that, they were crap...iv'e driven a few and they were diabolical....the worst motor i have been in,i wouldn't have one if it was given to me, way over priced, your just paying for the name, i have friends who have had brand new defenders, and evogues, the defenders hose let go,he had water coming in the foot wells, he sent it back and got another new one, something else went wrong, he ended going back to get that done, he was well pissed off, the other mate with the evogue, the gear box went pop at 15,000 miles, he payed £55,000 for that one, he sent it back and got a new one, and guess what...it was back at land rover within the month, another mate had an vogue, the box went on that at a very low millage,( £5000) for another box,i can't believe they just kept on building the same crap year after year....theres probably not an original land rover on the road as it's had so many new parts over it's time,

unfortunately your idea of a landrover is the same as everyone driving round in those big useless penis extension pickups, to me a landrover was made in Birmingham, the things you are listing are piles of shite with a landy badge on, I,ve said it lots of times before, but I will say it again, if you want to go fast get a car, if you want to go anywere get a real landrover, mine is 40 years old this year has been on its roof twice and totally submerged in water more times than I can remember, but it always just gets back up and keeps going, even when I snapped the timing chain, it cost £25 to rebuild and most of that was because I changed the water pump when I had it out

so....basically, what you are saying is....all the pick ups people have, are useless (and just for a penis extension).....buy a car if you want to go fast (my truck goes 0-60 in 5-6sec).....and if you want to go anywhere, buy a forty year old land rover, and the newer land rovers are shit....and you come to this conclusion on the fact, that you have pulled them out with your land rover....that doesn't mean anything, it could be the driver, or, the boots it's wearing, they could have been going to fast/slow at the wrong time, there's many factors to why people can get stuck in any 4x4's

my truck goes 0-60 in 5-6 secs,thats quite a penis extension you have there,

funny you saying that....they are brilliant fanny magnets....with the added bonus, you have loads of room on the back seats.... how would that feel in the back of a forty year old land rover....

cold and damp, but my knobs like a baby's arm holding an orange, so alls good

[leegreen 2,165]

 

That review with Hammond was not on a Grand Cherokee, it was a Cherokee Sport. Two completely different motors.

 

I've always had Land Rovers, but thought I'd try a Grand Cherokee. It's got a 3.0ltr V6 Mercedes engine and with its Quad drive and a set of decent tires, I've yet to get it stuck.

Loads of grunt and much more fun to drive than most 4 x 4 s I've driven. Costly on parts though and shite on fuel.

yeah and cos it America the dash will look like it made out of old telephones and creek like mad

 

Mine don't creek, may be its just the Scottish ones .

[scottish lurcher 185]

 

 

 

That review with Hammond was not on a Grand Cherokee, it was a Cherokee Sport. Two completely different motors.

 

I've always had Land Rovers, but thought I'd try a Grand Cherokee. It's got a 3.0ltr V6 Mercedes engine and with its Quad drive and a set of decent tires, I've yet to get it stuck.

Loads of grunt and much more fun to drive than most 4 x 4 s I've driven. Costly on parts though and shite on fuel.

yeah and cos it America the dash will look like it made out of old telephones and creek like mad

Mine don't creek, may be its just the Scottish ones .

or maybe your just the one of the lucky ones presonal think America motors are shite .just like these old peterbelt and kenworth trucks more comfort in mordern euro trucks !!

[tillylamp 1,830]

That review with Hammond was not on a Grand Cherokee, it was a Cherokee Sport. Two completely different motors.

 

I've always had Land Rovers, but thought I'd try a Grand Cherokee. It's got a 3.0ltr V6 Mercedes engine and with its Quad drive and a set of decent tires, I've yet to get it stuck.

Loads of grunt and much more fun to drive than most 4 x 4 s I've driven. Costly on parts though and shite on fuel.

the grand cherokee's are good motors bud, most of the jeeps are...far better than them crappy, shitty land rovers, there's an art to off road driving, and a good set of boots, like you say, the problem is....when a 4x4 does get stuck, people instantly blame the 4x4!!!...saying, there crap 4x4's, 9 times out of 10, it's driver error,

[BaldMan 26]

I really do like my Land cruiser .

[tillylamp 1,830]

I really do like my Land cruiser .

they are brilliant motors bud, voted one of the best motors in the world ever made, so reliable, comfortable, roomy, good for towing, good on fuel (for the size of engine and weight) and very strong engines that go on for miles and miles....what's....not to like bud...

[old school 518]

Are they're any oldish suvs or jeeps that can do high 30'mpg... I don't mean to hijack the thread but I've had my eye on x trail and free lander td4? I always kinda thought the right tyres, ground clearance and a bit of skill at the wheel got you most places... the vast majority of us only ever need to get threw a mucky gate/field

[dytkos 17,784]

Used to get around 40mpg out my 2.2 diesel XTrail but you would struggle to get that with decent off rtoad tyres.

 

Cheers, D.

[old school 518]

Used to get around 40mpg out my 2.2 diesel XTrail but you would struggle to get that with decent off rtoad tyres.

Cheers, D.

 

 

Thanks for that mate, I was looking at those around 2004 and I notice the price differs greatly with the same year... is there a dodgey engine in some versions?

[tillylamp 1,830]

Are they're any oldish suvs or jeeps that can do high 30'mpg... I don't mean to hijack the thread but I've had my eye on x trail and free lander td4? I always kinda thought the right tyres, ground clearance and a bit of skill at the wheel got you most places... the vast majority of us only ever need to get threw a mucky gate/field

the jeep Cherokee 2.4td sport, was good on fuel, and good off road, don't no much about the x trails, but stay away from land rovers, there nothing but trouble,

[dytkos 17,784]

 

Used to get around 40mpg out my 2.2 diesel XTrail but you would struggle to get that with decent off rtoad tyres.

Cheers, D.

Thanks for that mate, I was looking at those around 2004 and I notice the price differs greatly with the same year... is there a dodgey engine in some versions?

Was some issueswith the turbo and dual mass flywheel or summat but were OK if kept serviced up seemingly, mine never missed a beat in 8 years but only used it off road for towing the quad trailer.

 

Cheers, D.

[Quest 97]

Good read... but nowadays most people just buy a 4x4 quad and haul them in back of there truck.

[dytkos 17,784]

 

 

Used to get around 40mpg out my 2.2 diesel XTrail but you would struggle to get that with decent off rtoad tyres.

Cheers, D.

Thanks for that mate, I was looking at those around 2004 and I notice the price differs greatly with the same year... is there a dodgey engine in some versions?

Was some issueswith the turbo and dual mass flywheel or summat but were OK if kept serviced up seemingly, mine never missed a beat in 8 years but only used it off road for towing the quad trailer.

Cheers, D.

Mine was 05 btw

 

Cheers, D.