Joshua V Klitschko

[bird 9,969]

From what I've read ray, joshua will be fighting fighting December 10th regardless... Who he's fighting I don't know there was some talk of takam who dodged ortiz to fight duhaupas now fighting AJ instead but it's all hearsay... Personally I'd like to see Parker and Josh ... I think it could be a good fight.

yeh deff be good fight that,

[ryaldinhio 4,723]

 

 

Once again a knowledgeable and measured post.

 

Is AJ going to fast? Maybe. But what choice does he have? Its not like the heavyweight div is strong at the min. Barring a few at the top there is nothing so what can he do but aim for the top? If that means taking a risk against a wounded great then so be it. Wouldnt people rather he did that that claim mental illness and take drugs to avoid him???

 

Yes he is going too fast but thats the flip side of being an Olympian.....you have to keep in mind that although he went a long way in the amateurs he only had 40 odd amateur fights and didnt even lace a glove on until he was 18/19 years old so he hasnt had all the experiences you pick up as a child growing up in the sport.....things that are not actual techniques that can be taught but the tiny little tweaks and adjustments you make on your own in a fight through simply having done it before.....the way you might start to grip the canvas with your feet to get extra purchase on your punches late in a fight or the way you might steal little breathers or create room on the inside he hasnt done all that as a kid being in tough little 3 rounders so his actual fight iq is still very low......yes he has the tools and vigour to compete with Klitchko but it will be a long time before he has the fight iq that even somebody like Fury has let alone Klitchko....as the experience you gain growing up in the sport stands you in good stead for the rest of your career...............like you say though theres no going back to learning fights once you become world champion and the fact Joshua is so willing to take these opportunities and get this type of on the job training is really refreshing in todays times.

I have never boxed gnash and you have much more knowledge than me so can only take what you are saying in the way I know it...you cant buy experience! The thing is now he has a world title if he fights Klit/Haye/Fury etc he is going to fast, if he fights price/whyte etc he is avoiding the best. Personally in the amateur sports I played and in work I always push to be the best level I can be. If I was AJ I would be pushing to fight all the top guys regardless of how long Id be in the game. It all comes down to his confidence for me. He is still young and pulls money regardless so doesnt particularly need to fight Klitch other than to test himself and either silence the doubters or gain experience. If klit beat him it was too soon and he would learn from being in the ring with such a guy....though he may lose the fight he will still be held in high regard and ranking and parker, ortix, Haye, Fury will still want to fight him. I dont see that he can lose overall, almost a win win.

 

I enjoy watchin my boxing and I like to see people fighting the best.

 

I have heard johnny nelson saying he is too much magazine muscle which restricts him when he is fighting and I do see that a bit I think.

[kanny 20,693]

.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3856832/Anthony-Joshua-eyes-David-Price-unlikely-clash-Wladimir-Klitschko-doesn-t-happen.html

[kanny 20,693]

Some spongbob controversy...

[gnasher16 30,280]

 

I have heard johnny nelson saying he is too much magazine muscle which restricts him when he is fighting and I do see that a bit I think.

 

In all honesty im surprised somebody of his experience could make such a naïve comment.......fighters have different body types Joshua is just a very good physical specimen by nature......him and Tyson Fury could train and eat exactly the same for 5 years Joshua would have a 6 pack and Fury wouldnt its simply because one is genetically gifted and the other isnt.....different body types thats all.

[Malt 379]

.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3856832/Anthony-Joshua-eyes-David-Price-unlikely-clash-Wladimir-Klitschko-doesn-t-happen.html

Just seen something on FB about Price saying he's going to knock him out on the 10th Dec..

[kanny 20,693]

 

 

.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-3856832/Anthony-Joshua-eyes-David-Price-unlikely-clash-Wladimir-Klitschko-doesn-t-happen.html

Just seen something on FB about Price saying he's going to knock him out on the 10th Dec..

Price certainly has a good punch on him capable of knocking anyone out but he's been chewing canvas on his last few fights... It was OK him roughing AJ up when Aj was a rookie but I can't see him doing that now Aj will floor him.

[johnny boy68 11,726]

David Price always looks scared to death when he's in the ring.

[kanny 20,693]

And that's why i cant get me head around boxing, all wanna be the best but find excuses not to fight each other

The only good thing about this fight is it possible it will have a good undercard... Is it ppv material... I don't think so.

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

 

 

 

I have heard johnny nelson saying he is too much magazine muscle which restricts him when he is fighting and I do see that a bit I think.

 

In all honesty im surprised somebody of his experience could make such a naïve comment.......fighters have different body types Joshua is just a very good physical specimen by nature......him and Tyson Fury could train and eat exactly the same for 5 years Joshua would have a 6 pack and Fury wouldnt its simply because one is genetically gifted and the other isnt.....different body types thats all.

I think genetically gifted is right to a sense though I've often seen that guys who aren't overly muscled and have a little flab are naturally more durable and have more stamina fury will never have the explosive power Joshua has but he won't turn to jelly like Joshua has and could from a big punch or getting tired big muscles are great till the y full of lactic acid or have a big adrenaline dump. I'd have loved to have seen them fight as they are polar opposites so would of made a good match imo

[gnasher16 30,280]

I must of heard more people in the last few years say they are sick of boxing than ive heard in the previous 30 yet in reality nothing has changed in the sport its the way it is marketed thats changed.....theres always been big expectation on big names,fights have always fallen through,fighters have always avoided each other.....the only reason people today get up in arms about it is because they know about it today.....if you want transparency in boxing then you have to accept the shit that go,s on and always has gone on !.....fans used to be the last person to know anything but now with social media and the speed news travels they are quite often the first.....Joshuas next fight he has gone back to how it was in my day where you would be given a date to train towards and your opponent might change 2,3 even 4 times in that few months.....what used to go on behind the scenes in the sport now takes place in full view of the public via youtube/social media etc ....but the ducking and diving/strokes pulled/palm greasing etc hasnt changed at all.

[gnasher16 30,280]

 

I think genetically gifted is right to a sense though I've often seen that guys who aren't overly muscled and have a little flab are naturally more durable and have more stamina fury will never have the explosive power Joshua has but he won't turn to jelly like Joshua has and could from a big punch or getting tired big muscles are great till the y full of lactic acid or have a big adrenaline dump. I'd have loved to have seen them fight as they are polar opposites so would of made a good match imo

 

The old lactic acid myth .....Joshua got smacked on the chin by a man of his own size and got wobbled yes.....Fury got smacked on the chin by smaller men and was put on his arse... better or worse ?......Joshua isnt the first fighter in history to have a six pack he isnt even a particularly big muscled chap he just carries low bodyfat and would do even if he wasnt a boxer it looks good on the fight posters but its not intentional its just the way the lads put together.

Edited October 21, 2016 by gnasher16

[jukel123 8,509]

 

 

I think genetically gifted is right to a sense though I've often seen that guys who aren't overly muscled and have a little flab are naturally more durable and have more stamina fury will never have the explosive power Joshua has but he won't turn to jelly like Joshua has and could from a big punch or getting tired big muscles are great till the y full of lactic acid or have a big adrenaline dump. I'd have loved to have seen them fight as they are polar opposites so would of made a good match imo

 

The old lactic acid myth .....Joshua got smacked on the chin by a man of his own size and got wobbled yes.....Fury got smacked on the chin by smaller men and was put on his arse... better or worse ?......Joshua isnt the first fighter in history to have a six pack he isnt even a particularly big muscled chap he just carries low bodyfat and would do even if he wasnt a boxer it looks good on the fight posters but its not intentional its just the way the lads put together.

 

Do you think steroids have played a part in AJ's physique? I've heard the same accusations levelled at Bruno in his time-in fact he used to be criticised for being muscle bound.

[bird 9,969]

 

 

 

I think genetically gifted is right to a sense though I've often seen that guys who aren't overly muscled and have a little flab are naturally more durable and have more stamina fury will never have the explosive power Joshua has but he won't turn to jelly like Joshua has and could from a big punch or getting tired big muscles are great till the y full of lactic acid or have a big adrenaline dump. I'd have loved to have seen them fight as they are polar opposites so would of made a good match imo

 

The old lactic acid myth .....Joshua got smacked on the chin by a man of his own size and got wobbled yes.....Fury got smacked on the chin by smaller men and was put on his arse... better or worse ?......Joshua isnt the first fighter in history to have a six pack he isnt even a particularly big muscled chap he just carries low bodyfat and would do even if he wasnt a boxer it looks good on the fight posters but its not intentional its just the way the lads put together.

 

Do you think steroids have played a part in AJ's physique? I've heard the same accusations levelled at Bruno in his time-in fact he used to be criticised for being muscle bound.

 

yeh but Bruno was stiff/slow way to slow really, AJ is more agile/faster and quick hands deff alot better boxer/fighter and i dont think AJ uses juice or ever as !! , i like to see AJ have crack at Haye right now, that be great fight for boxing fans hope it comes off sometime next year

[gnasher16 30,280]

In a word.........no.

 

Frank had a similar body type to Joshua in that he too carried low bodyfat naturally but his musculature was far more dense......you could look at Frank today and he carries hardly any more weight than he did 20 years ago,Joshua will be the same once retired......naturally low bodyfat and good genetics.

Edited October 21, 2016 by gnasher16