JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Yes but you hear even on here people recommending staffs as great family dogs etc etc I don't know the circumstances of this attack but if someone naive about dogs asks someone for advice or looks on the net there's a good chance a staff would be recommended so it's difficult then to lay the blame squarely at their door, not everyone realises what damage even a small dog can do and if all they've ever seen is people's friendly dogs they can't be blamed for being misinformed as there's so much bad advice about. My next door but ones daughter has one it started off all friendly and playful till it matured then attacked any other dog in sight bar mine which had put it in its place at bout 6 month it's now gone to her grandad I think but is simply a timebomb. Personally I think everyone should be licensed to own a dog and you should have to be graded on which weight or type of dogs and how many based on an assessment most of the gobshite owners simply couldn't be bothered and the ignorant would be educated. I got surrounded by 4 huge husky types but bigger a while back they were trying to get to my spaniel, they completely ignored the middle aged female owner and weren't backing off far when I was shouting at/kicking them if they'd decided to attack she would of been useless and I'd have been a goner it's not right people having dogs they can't control if they kick off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Not called nanny dogs for no reason.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Yes but you hear even on here people recommending staffs as great family dogs etc etc I don't know the circumstances of this attack but if someone naive about dogs asks someone for advice or looks on the net there's a good chance a staff would be recommended so it's difficult then to lay the blame squarely at their door, not everyone realises what damage even a small dog can do and if all they've ever seen is people's friendly dogs they can't be blamed for being misinformed as there's so much bad advice about. My next door but ones daughter has one it started off all friendly and playful till it matured then attacked any other dog in sight bar mine which had put it in its place at bout 6 month it's now gone to her grandad I think but is simply a timebomb. Personally I think everyone should be licensed to own a dog and you should have to be graded on which weight or type of dogs and how many based on an assessment most of the gobshite owners simply couldn't be bothered and the ignorant would be educated. I got surrounded by 4 huge husky types but bigger a while back they were trying to get to my spaniel, they completely ignored the middle aged female owner and weren't backing off far when I was shouting at/kicking them if they'd decided to attack she would of been useless and I'd have been a goner it's not right people having dogs they can't control if they kick off Dog aggression doesn't mean they will be human aggressive. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 aggression is aggression it's much simpler this refocus your aggression than suddenly discover aggression that was never there in the first place and just because a dog has never been aggressive to an adult human doesn't mean it will treat a baby or toddler in the same way. I'd like to bet nearly everyone of these dogs that kill people have been dog aggressive first 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 13,209 Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 I dont think its that. I thinks its the tools they aquire that goes along with being able to kill. Id fancy my chances with a collie rather than a staff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Well of course, a Staff is going to do a lot of damage compared to a lesser breed. A four month old boy would be killed if a Jack Russell got hold of him properly, I question the parents actions first and foremost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Labrador bites more people than staffs. Should labs be banned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 What you think seems alot kids getting killed and always this breed Have a close look at your post. It's guilty of the very same sensationalism that mediocre journalists are. "A lot of kids getting killed and it's always this breed." I have no statistics but I would say less than 5 or 6 unfortunates have been killed by dogs and I know one of these was killed by a Deerhound Lurcher and Bull Mastiffs have been guilty of a couple more. Would I be right in saying that Staffs are guilty of a couple or maybe just a few fatalities ? Hopefully this child will be the last and the other child will make a full recovery. But don't blame a breed as a whole or it's owners too. Blame bad owners and those who breed nilly willy and don't care where their pups end up. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,661 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for trouble I have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for trouble I have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS. What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 If you ban Stafford's, idiots will move on to other 'tough' breeds like Alsatians and Dobermanns. Then you'll end up with calls for those breeds to be banned after a spate of attacks due to bad breeding, training and handling, as their popularity shoots through the roof. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,661 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 ive never owned a bad staffi yet ,but they have always been trained properly,people that leave young kids in a room with any dog are asking for trouble I have about 10 year ago,a brindle bitch bought as 8 week pup ,it was about 18 months old,when it attacked my shepherd Lurcher I went to separate them,it was that fired up it snapped at me, I hit it once,then grabbed its lead an took it straight into vets PTS. What was the reason the staff attacked the lurcher. From what I can gather the lurcher had the nerve to walk inbetween me an the staff, we was out in back garden,I had the lurcher before the staff as well, the staff wasnt a tall one,but she wasn't one of these roly poly types either . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) I've never had dogs that have been brought up together as pups have a proper fight with each other over anything barring a little scrap over food. Edited October 14, 2016 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 As the worst attacks seem to be on children, how about giving school pupils an hours tuition on dog handling at school each year? If they have dogs they'll probably take it in and pass the information on to their folks. It won't stop the hardcore dog idiots but it should cut the number of attacks due to ignorance. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,941 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 I dont think its that. I thinks its the tools they aquire that goes along with being able to kill. Id fancy my chances with a collie rather than a staff spot on, most breeds of dogs will bite from a dane to jack big and small, most dogs lash out and one snap= bite . but the prob with breeds like pits,staffs, etc, will take it further , to another level when there wound up . my brother got bitten dalmatian we had when he was 18, it got him in the hand, he said the pain was like having your hand slammed in between the door, very painful . now that just one bite and that was enough for him. to me the best temp dogs with people/kids are lurchers, the more the running dog in the mix, the softer the temp . its because staffs and pit types are not really big dogs, and people will have them in the houses as pets, as easy size in the house, dont molt much, and staffs norm have good temps, and bitches better still , all dogs need there own space, small or big , i like ridge backs great breed of dogs, good family dogs , but you could bet if people wanted a house dog they go for a staff, only because of there convenient size and not a ridge back . like ive said i was brought up with bull breeds and i like pit and staffs, but a old mongrel from the pound or a nice lurcher are easier to live with and handle as a pet in the house, even though i still think dogs should live outside . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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