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I'd say Syria with a dictator is in a worse state than Libya without one, wouldn't you? The body count is certainly higher.

No because it's still being run by a dictator.... the USA...... they want the world to bow to their power....
So the USA is better at keeping a lid on things than Assad. Shall we hand Syria over to them then?
No we should strengthen Assad and let him deal with ISIL, a win win for us don't you agree? Or do you think our western powers should keep selling billions of pounds of weaponry to help kill these poor civilians out there??!
I thought it was Western powers getting involved that caused all the problems? If Assad can't fulfill his role as strongman dictator without being propped up by Russia and the West he's not very good at his job is he? Why not let someone else have a crack at it?
I think you have difficulty reading, note the sentences "the lesser of two evils and "relative peace." Our meddling as made the situation a lot worse for us and for them.

 

Why not let someone else have a crack at it? Who the fcuk are we to say who should or should not rule Syria?

 

When our people are at risk or terrorist attacks you do your best to wipe out the terrorists, the Syrian government are not the ones bombing the fcuk out of Europe and driving lorries into innocent civilians.

By propping up Assad are we not saying who should rule or not rule Syria?

 

The Syrian government aren't the ones committing terrorist attacks in Europe you're right, they're too busy using chemical weapons and indiscriminate bombing on their own civilian population.

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personally I think the west is arming every raving looney in the desert to overthrow Assad without getting there hands dirty, and Russia are helping an elected leader as written in most of the war law

The Middle East has thousands of years of tribal and family allegiances. Through marriage , political or military superiority. it is the way of the Society. The low levels of Education in Saudia one

The middle east is a bloody complicated place. Yes, to the outsider, the people are basic and simple but, they operate on a system of morals and honour that has become alien to us now.   Of course

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd say Syria with a dictator is in a worse state than Libya without one, wouldn't you? The body count is certainly higher.

No because it's still being run by a dictator.... the USA...... they want the world to bow to their power....
So the USA is better at keeping a lid on things than Assad. Shall we hand Syria over to them then?
No we should strengthen Assad and let him deal with ISIL, a win win for us don't you agree? Or do you think our western powers should keep selling billions of pounds of weaponry to help kill these poor civilians out there??!
I thought it was Western powers getting involved that caused all the problems? If Assad can't fulfill his role as strongman dictator without being propped up by Russia and the West he's not very good at his job is he? Why not let someone else have a crack at it?
I think you have difficulty reading, note the sentences "the lesser of two evils and "relative peace." Our meddling as made the situation a lot worse for us and for them.

 

Why not let someone else have a crack at it? Who the fcuk are we to say who should or should not rule Syria?

 

When our people are at risk or terrorist attacks you do your best to wipe out the terrorists, the Syrian government are not the ones bombing the fcuk out of Europe and driving lorries into innocent civilians.

By propping up Assad are we not saying who should rule or not rule Syria?

 

The Syrian government aren't the ones committing terrorist attacks in Europe you're right, they're too busy using chemical weapons and indiscriminate bombing on their own civilian population.

They have been running the country for over 40 years, it's hardly a sudden nasty surprise is it???

 

Can you prove they have been using chemical weapons and doing indiscriminate bombings on innocent people? I'm sure you believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction when one of your fellow lefties said so.....

 

Guess you missed the part where the USA killed more than 70 civilians in one of it's bombing attacks, that was an accident though....

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I'd say Syria with a dictator is in a worse state than Libya without one, wouldn't you? The body count is certainly higher.

No because it's still being run by a dictator.... the USA...... they want the world to bow to their power....
So the USA is better at keeping a lid on things than Assad. Shall we hand Syria over to them then?
No we should strengthen Assad and let him deal with ISIL, a win win for us don't you agree? Or do you think our western powers should keep selling billions of pounds of weaponry to help kill these poor civilians out there??!
I thought it was Western powers getting involved that caused all the problems? If Assad can't fulfill his role as strongman dictator without being propped up by Russia and the West he's not very good at his job is he? Why not let someone else have a crack at it?
I think you have difficulty reading, note the sentences "the lesser of two evils and "relative peace." Our meddling as made the situation a lot worse for us and for them.

 

Why not let someone else have a crack at it? Who the fcuk are we to say who should or should not rule Syria?

 

When our people are at risk or terrorist attacks you do your best to wipe out the terrorists, the Syrian government are not the ones bombing the fcuk out of Europe and driving lorries into innocent civilians.

By propping up Assad are we not saying who should rule or not rule Syria?

 

The Syrian government aren't the ones committing terrorist attacks in Europe you're right, they're too busy using chemical weapons and indiscriminate bombing on their own civilian population.

They have been running the country for over 40 years, it's hardly a sudden nasty surprise is it???

 

Can you prove they have been using chemical weapons and doing indiscriminate bombings on innocent people? I'm sure you believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction when one of your fellow lefties said so.....

He's not doing such a great job now is he? If the people wanted him he wouldn't need propping up. Why not have free and fair elections and let the people decide who rules them instead of the USA or Russia?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_chemical_weapons_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Syrian_Civil_War_barrel_bomb_attacks

 

There you go you can start there.

 

What leftie said there was WMDs in Iraq? I can't wait to hear this...

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I'd say Syria with a dictator is in a worse state than Libya without one, wouldn't you? The body count is certainly higher.

No because it's still being run by a dictator.... the USA...... they want the world to bow to their power....
So the USA is better at keeping a lid on things than Assad. Shall we hand Syria over to them then?
No we should strengthen Assad and let him deal with ISIL, a win win for us don't you agree? Or do you think our western powers should keep selling billions of pounds of weaponry to help kill these poor civilians out there??!
I thought it was Western powers getting involved that caused all the problems? If Assad can't fulfill his role as strongman dictator without being propped up by Russia and the West he's not very good at his job is he? Why not let someone else have a crack at it?
I think you have difficulty reading, note the sentences "the lesser of two evils and "relative peace." Our meddling as made the situation a lot worse for us and for them.

 

Why not let someone else have a crack at it? Who the fcuk are we to say who should or should not rule Syria?

 

When our people are at risk or terrorist attacks you do your best to wipe out the terrorists, the Syrian government are not the ones bombing the fcuk out of Europe and driving lorries into innocent civilians.

By propping up Assad are we not saying who should rule or not rule Syria?

 

The Syrian government aren't the ones committing terrorist attacks in Europe you're right, they're too busy using chemical weapons and indiscriminate bombing on their own civilian population.

They have been running the country for over 40 years, it's hardly a sudden nasty surprise is it???

 

Can you prove they have been using chemical weapons and doing indiscriminate bombings on innocent people? I'm sure you believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction when one of your fellow lefties said so.....

He's not doing such a great job now is he? If the people wanted him he wouldn't need propping up. Why not have free and fair elections and let the people decide who rules them instead of the USA or Russia?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_chemical_weapons_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Syrian_Civil_War_barrel_bomb_attacks

 

There you go you can start there.

 

What leftie said there was WMDs in Iraq? I can't wait to hear this...

Wikipedia, the proof of honesty....

 

Last time I heard the people that voted did want him in......

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I'd say Syria with a dictator is in a worse state than Libya without one, wouldn't you? The body count is certainly higher.

No because it's still being run by a dictator.... the USA...... they want the world to bow to their power....
So the USA is better at keeping a lid on things than Assad. Shall we hand Syria over to them then?
No we should strengthen Assad and let him deal with ISIL, a win win for us don't you agree? Or do you think our western powers should keep selling billions of pounds of weaponry to help kill these poor civilians out there??!
I thought it was Western powers getting involved that caused all the problems? If Assad can't fulfill his role as strongman dictator without being propped up by Russia and the West he's not very good at his job is he? Why not let someone else have a crack at it?
I think you have difficulty reading, note the sentences "the lesser of two evils and "relative peace." Our meddling as made the situation a lot worse for us and for them.

 

Why not let someone else have a crack at it? Who the fcuk are we to say who should or should not rule Syria?

 

When our people are at risk or terrorist attacks you do your best to wipe out the terrorists, the Syrian government are not the ones bombing the fcuk out of Europe and driving lorries into innocent civilians.

By propping up Assad are we not saying who should rule or not rule Syria?

 

The Syrian government aren't the ones committing terrorist attacks in Europe you're right, they're too busy using chemical weapons and indiscriminate bombing on their own civilian population.

They have been running the country for over 40 years, it's hardly a sudden nasty surprise is it???

 

Can you prove they have been using chemical weapons and doing indiscriminate bombings on innocent people? I'm sure you believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction when one of your fellow lefties said so.....

He's not doing such a great job now is he? If the people wanted him he wouldn't need propping up. Why not have free and fair elections and let the people decide who rules them instead of the USA or Russia?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_chemical_weapons_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Syrian_Civil_War_barrel_bomb_attacks

 

There you go you can start there.

 

What leftie said there was WMDs in Iraq? I can't wait to hear this...

Last time I heard the people that voted did want him in......

So he isn't a dictator then? Make your mind up! :laugh:

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I think you should change your username to Thrush because you are irritating to fcuk.... You just argue over little pointless with your wisecracking matters while ignoring the serious matters...

 

Must have forgot the part where ISIS began to take over parts of Syria due to our "war" against terror in Iraq, causing even more destruction over there.

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I think you should change your username to Thrush because you are irritating to fcuk.... You just argue over pointless matters while ignoring the serious matters...

 

Must have forgot the part where ISIS began to take over parts of Syria due to our "war" against terror in Iraq, causing even more destruction over there.

Hey pal I'm just asking questions it's not my fault if you can't or don't want to answer them, feel free to ignore my posts :thumbs:

 

I'd say that situation wasn't helped by the instability caused by a dictator desperately trying to cling to power in the face of a popular uprising...

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I think you should change your username to Thrush because you are irritating to fcuk.... You just argue over pointless matters while ignoring the serious matters...

 

Must have forgot the part where ISIS began to take over parts of Syria due to our "war" against terror in Iraq, causing even more destruction over there.

Hey pal I'm just asking questions it's not my fault if you can't or don't want to answer them, feel free to ignore my posts :thumbs:

 

I'd say that situation wasn't helped by the instability caused by a dictator desperately trying to cling to power in the face of a popular uprising...

What popular uprising, by who????

 

We have definitely not helped the situation in the Middle East that's for sure but we've certainly fcuked it up for ourselves and that's my only concern....

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I think you should change your username to Thrush because you are irritating to fcuk.... You just argue over pointless matters while ignoring the serious matters...

 

Must have forgot the part where ISIS began to take over parts of Syria due to our "war" against terror in Iraq, causing even more destruction over there.

Hey pal I'm just asking questions it's not my fault if you can't or don't want to answer them, feel free to ignore my posts :thumbs:

 

I'd say that situation wasn't helped by the instability caused by a dictator desperately trying to cling to power in the face of a popular uprising...

What popular uprising, by who????

 

We have definitely not helped the situation in the Middle East that's for sure but we've certainly fcuked it up for ourselves and that's my only concern....

Erm the mass protests that were violently suppressed by Assad kicking off the civil war? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_uprising_phase_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War#

 

You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the whole situation, you don't even know how it all started!

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I think you should change your username to Thrush because you are irritating to fcuk.... You just argue over pointless matters while ignoring the serious matters...

 

Must have forgot the part where ISIS began to take over parts of Syria due to our "war" against terror in Iraq, causing even more destruction over there.

Hey pal I'm just asking questions it's not my fault if you can't or don't want to answer them, feel free to ignore my posts :thumbs:

 

I'd say that situation wasn't helped by the instability caused by a dictator desperately trying to cling to power in the face of a popular uprising...

What popular uprising, by who????

 

We have definitely not helped the situation in the Middle East that's for sure but we've certainly fcuked it up for ourselves and that's my only concern....

Erm the mass protests that were violently suppressed by Assad kicking off the civil war? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_uprising_phase_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War#

 

You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the whole situation, you don't even know how it all started!

Oh I do sunshine, takes more than an article in Wikipedia to convince me....

 

I heard on the grapevine that these protests were far from peaceful, it wasn't a case of good guy vs bad guy.

 

Notice how you fail to answer the part of ISIS involvement in Syria, how convenient.....

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I think you should change your username to Thrush because you are irritating to fcuk.... You just argue over pointless matters while ignoring the serious matters...

 

Must have forgot the part where ISIS began to take over parts of Syria due to our "war" against terror in Iraq, causing even more destruction over there.

Hey pal I'm just asking questions it's not my fault if you can't or don't want to answer them, feel free to ignore my posts :thumbs:

 

I'd say that situation wasn't helped by the instability caused by a dictator desperately trying to cling to power in the face of a popular uprising...

What popular uprising, by who????

 

We have definitely not helped the situation in the Middle East that's for sure but we've certainly fcuked it up for ourselves and that's my only concern....

Erm the mass protests that were violently suppressed by Assad kicking off the civil war? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_uprising_phase_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War#

 

You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the whole situation, you don't even know how it all started!

Oh I do sunshine, takes more than an article in Wikipedia to convince me....

 

I heard on the grapevine that these protests were far from peaceful, it wasn't a case of good guy vs bad guy.

 

Notice how you fail to answer the part of ISIS involvement in Syria, how convenient.....

I never said they were entirely peaceful, just that an uprising occurred. You seem to even doubt that fact? Another grand conspiracy is it?

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I think you should change your username to Thrush because you are irritating to fcuk.... You just argue over pointless matters while ignoring the serious matters...

 

Must have forgot the part where ISIS began to take over parts of Syria due to our "war" against terror in Iraq, causing even more destruction over there.

Hey pal I'm just asking questions it's not my fault if you can't or don't want to answer them, feel free to ignore my posts :thumbs:

 

I'd say that situation wasn't helped by the instability caused by a dictator desperately trying to cling to power in the face of a popular uprising...

What popular uprising, by who????

 

We have definitely not helped the situation in the Middle East that's for sure but we've certainly fcuked it up for ourselves and that's my only concern....

Erm the mass protests that were violently suppressed by Assad kicking off the civil war? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_uprising_phase_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War#

 

You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the whole situation, you don't even know how it all started!

Oh I do sunshine, takes more than an article in Wikipedia to convince me....

 

I heard on the grapevine that these protests were far from peaceful, it wasn't a case of good guy vs bad guy.

 

Notice how you fail to answer the part of ISIS involvement in Syria, how convenient.....

I never said they were entirely peaceful, just that an uprising occurred. You seem to even doubt that fact? Another grand conspiracy is it?

An uprising occurred yes, by how much of the population? Was it a minority or the majority?

 

You still haven't answered about ISIS and it's involvement backed by the good old US of A....

 

Another grand conspiracy then?

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I think you should change your username to Thrush because you are irritating to fcuk.... You just argue over pointless matters while ignoring the serious matters...

 

Must have forgot the part where ISIS began to take over parts of Syria due to our "war" against terror in Iraq, causing even more destruction over there.

Hey pal I'm just asking questions it's not my fault if you can't or don't want to answer them, feel free to ignore my posts :thumbs:

 

I'd say that situation wasn't helped by the instability caused by a dictator desperately trying to cling to power in the face of a popular uprising...

What popular uprising, by who????

 

We have definitely not helped the situation in the Middle East that's for sure but we've certainly fcuked it up for ourselves and that's my only concern....

Erm the mass protests that were violently suppressed by Assad kicking off the civil war? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_uprising_phase_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War#

 

You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the whole situation, you don't even know how it all started!

Oh I do sunshine, takes more than an article in Wikipedia to convince me....

 

I heard on the grapevine that these protests were far from peaceful, it wasn't a case of good guy vs bad guy.

 

Notice how you fail to answer the part of ISIS involvement in Syria, how convenient.....

I never said they were entirely peaceful, just that an uprising occurred. You seem to even doubt that fact? Another grand conspiracy is it?
An uprising occurred yes, by how much of the population? Was it a minority or the majority?

 

You still haven't answered about ISIS and it's involvement backed by the good old US of A....

 

Another grand conspiracy then?

I made no comment on the numbers or legitimacy of the uprising just that it occurred and Assad failed to crush it plunging the country into neverending civil war and killing or displacing millions of his citizens proving he's a shite strongman dictator, that's all I've said. I've got no dog in this fight and haven't made any judgement on who the "good guys" are, you seem to have decided the dictator who isn't really a dictator is the better guy though.

 

Yes yes ISIS are very bad indeed, I can't see any question about them in any of the quoted posts though.

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I said he's the lesser of two evils to us and arguably the Syrian people would you not agree? He is still loved by many of his countrymen to this day.

 

We had no right interfering in the Middle East and you know very well that it wasn't for the good of humanity or the fight against terrorism, who sells all the arms to these places and helps create these rebel forces which end up turning on us?

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