DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I think he's good for Syria and Europe as a dictator or not, what do you think??? Answer the question... So you think he's done a good job of keeping Syria stable? I think he's failed at that personally. He certainly won't keep it stable when the West are involved will he now....So the instability only started when the West got involved? Righto When the West got involved that caused a lot of the conflict to be exported when it was reasonably well contained within borders by what ever method before.But Syria was still unstable, which was my point.I think you don't understand what relative means...The word relative doesn't appear in any of the posts in that quote chain I think you will find it does....It definitely doesn't, are you dyslexic? Check my opening posts dumbass.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,921 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Holy Christ the Labour Party split has spilled over onto the hunting life, corbyn v Khan and Tony's Bliar in the other seat haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Dunno who to the lay blame at,but kids and babies being pulled from rubble is just heartbreaking. However Russia were never ones to let kids get in the way of their objectives. The world needs to resolve this regardless of who's to blame. Those kids have done f**k all wrong and deserve some kind of intervention. There are war crimes being committed here and we all know it will go unpunished! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) How the situation came about is irrelevant now - it's the current situation that has to be addressed..... You may disagree, but this is how I see it..... Assad won't step down - he knows what happened to Saddam and Gaddafi, once they lost power ! So, with the help of the Russians, hell stick it out, knowing he now has the upper hand. The Russians aim is pretty straightforward - to maintain their influence in a strategically important region of the Middle East. They can achieve this only by keeping Assad in power. If they can eliminate all the middle ground, the so called 'rebel group's, leaving just the Assad regime and Islamic State, it would be impossible for the West to intervene - to attack one side would be to assist the other. With Russian help, Assad could keep IS at bay AND remain in power. I think that, if any progress is to be made, the West (particularly the US), will have to drop their pre-condition that Assad steps down. The Russians will never agree to this (and Assad certainly won't !), and when all is said and done, maybe he is the least bad option ? In the world of international politics, there are no real alliances, only common interests..... The thing is, the people of Syria voted for Assad. They know that without him the country would be in a worse state being run by rebels. He is the lesser of two evils imo.... How the situation came about is irrelevant now - it's the current situation that has to be addressed..... You may disagree, but this is how I see it..... Assad won't step down - he knows what happened to Saddam and Gaddafi, once they lost power ! So, with the help of the Russians, hell stick it out, knowing he now has the upper hand. The Russians aim is pretty straightforward - to maintain their influence in a strategically important region of the Middle East. They can achieve this only by keeping Assad in power. If they can eliminate all the middle ground, the so called 'rebel group's, leaving just the Assad regime and Islamic State, it would be impossible for the West to intervene - to attack one side would be to assist the other. With Russian help, Assad could keep IS at bay AND remain in power. I think that, if any progress is to be made, the West (particularly the US), will have to drop their pre-condition that Assad steps down. The Russians will never agree to this (and Assad certainly won't !), and when all is said and done, maybe he is the least bad option ? In the world of international politics, there are no real alliances, only common interests..... The thing is, the people of Syria voted for Assad. They know that without him the country would be in a worse state being run by rebels. He is the lesser of two evils imo....They didn't vote for him, he took over the job from his father, he's a dictator.There was elections in 2014 but only in the areas loyal to Assad. Yes and under Assad is the only way the people of the Middle East can live in relative peace.Note the word "relative" Edited October 13, 2016 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 War= more refugees for BGD to welcome into this country.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I think he's good for Syria and Europe as a dictator or not, what do you think??? Answer the question... So you think he's done a good job of keeping Syria stable? I think he's failed at that personally. He certainly won't keep it stable when the West are involved will he now....So the instability only started when the West got involved? Righto When the West got involved that caused a lot of the conflict to be exported when it was reasonably well contained within borders by what ever method before.But Syria was still unstable, which was my point.I think you don't understand what relative means...The word relative doesn't appear in any of the posts in that quote chain I think you will find it does....It definitely doesn't, are you dyslexic? Check my opening posts dumbass.... I said in that quote chain, you sure you're not dyslexic? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 War= more refugees for BGD to welcome into this country.... Do Russian and Syrian airstrikes not displace people and create refugees then? Earlier you were quite happy to accept those displaced by airstrikes as collateral damage, seems you're the one who's relaxed with the idea of creating more refugees... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I think he's good for Syria and Europe as a dictator or not, what do you think??? Answer the question... So you think he's done a good job of keeping Syria stable? I think he's failed at that personally. He certainly won't keep it stable when the West are involved will he now....So the instability only started when the West got involved? Righto When the West got involved that caused a lot of the conflict to be exported when it was reasonably well contained within borders by what ever method before.But Syria was still unstable, which was my point.I think you don't understand what relative means...The word relative doesn't appear in any of the posts in that quote chain I think you will find it does....It definitely doesn't, are you dyslexic? Check my opening posts dumbass.... I said in that quote chain, you sure you're not dyslexic? No I reckon I can read and write just as good as you.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 War= more refugees for BGD to welcome into this country....Do Russian and Syrian airstrikes not displace people and create refugees then? Earlier you were quite happy to accept those displaced by airstrikes as collateral damage, seems you're the one who's relaxed with the idea of creating more refugees... About as much as western air strikes don't you agree??? It's part of war yes, do I want then coming to this country? Do I fcuk..... Why the need to let them in here? Plenty of nearby western armed countries nearby to escape to don't you agree??? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 War= more refugees for BGD to welcome into this country....Do Russian and Syrian airstrikes not displace people and create refugees then? Earlier you were quite happy to accept those displaced by airstrikes as collateral damage, seems you're the one who's relaxed with the idea of creating more refugees...About as much as western air strikes don't you agree??? It's part of war yes, do I want then coming to this country? Do I fcuk..... Why the need to let them in here? Plenty of nearby western armed countries nearby to escape to don't you agree??? The Russian and Syrian airstrikes are more concentrated on areas with large civilian populations and there's been more of them so no I wouldn't agree they've displaced the same number of people as more targeted strikes. Arguing over numbers is a bit pointless though, the fact remains that the airstrikes and regime you support are one of the largest causes of the refugee crisis. I've always said it would be better for the refugees to go to well maintained and protected humanitarian camps closer to Syria... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) War= more refugees for BGD to welcome into this country....Do Russian and Syrian airstrikes not displace people and create refugees then? Earlier you were quite happy to accept those displaced by airstrikes as collateral damage, seems you're the one who's relaxed with the idea of creating more refugees...About as much as western air strikes don't you agree??? It's part of war yes, do I want then coming to this country? Do I fcuk..... Why the need to let them in here? Plenty of nearby western armed countries nearby to escape to don't you agree??? The Russian and Syrian airstrikes are more concentrated on areas with large civilian populations and there's been more of them so no I wouldn't agree they've displaced the same number of people as more targeted strikes. Arguing over numbers is a bit pointless though, the fact remains that the airstrikes and regime you support are one of the largest causes of the refugee crisis. I've always said it would be better for the refugees to go to well maintained and protected humanitarian camps closer to Syria... Why do you think they are more concentrated in civilian areas? Do you think they are specifically targeting civilian areas? Why have the USA killed harmless civilians in Syria? Why have the USA been bombing Syrian troops? Aren't they ment to be bombing ISIS? You fail to acknowledge that the West is a major factor in the high death toll as well..... Edited October 13, 2016 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 War= more refugees for BGD to welcome into this country....Do Russian and Syrian airstrikes not displace people and create refugees then? Earlier you were quite happy to accept those displaced by airstrikes as collateral damage, seems you're the one who's relaxed with the idea of creating more refugees...About as much as western air strikes don't you agree??? It's part of war yes, do I want then coming to this country? Do I fcuk..... Why the need to let them in here? Plenty of nearby western armed countries nearby to escape to don't you agree??? The Russian and Syrian airstrikes are more concentrated on areas with large civilian populations and there's been more of them so no I wouldn't agree they've displaced the same number of people as more targeted strikes. Arguing over numbers is a bit pointless though, the fact remains that the airstrikes and regime you support are one of the largest causes of the refugee crisis. I've always said it would be better for the refugees to go to well maintained and protected humanitarian camps closer to Syria... Why do you think they are more concentrated in civilian areas? Do you think they are specifically targeting civilian areas? Why have the USA killed harmless civilians in Syria? You fail to acknowledge that the West is a major factor in the high death toll as well..... Because they are. Yes. I don't know, ask them? No I don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 War= more refugees for BGD to welcome into this country....Do Russian and Syrian airstrikes not displace people and create refugees then? Earlier you were quite happy to accept those displaced by airstrikes as collateral damage, seems you're the one who's relaxed with the idea of creating more refugees...About as much as western air strikes don't you agree??? It's part of war yes, do I want then coming to this country? Do I fcuk..... Why the need to let them in here? Plenty of nearby western armed countries nearby to escape to don't you agree??? The Russian and Syrian airstrikes are more concentrated on areas with large civilian populations and there's been more of them so no I wouldn't agree they've displaced the same number of people as more targeted strikes. Arguing over numbers is a bit pointless though, the fact remains that the airstrikes and regime you support are one of the largest causes of the refugee crisis. I've always said it would be better for the refugees to go to well maintained and protected humanitarian camps closer to Syria... Why do you think they are more concentrated in civilian areas? Do you think they are specifically targeting civilian areas? Why have the USA killed harmless civilians in Syria? You fail to acknowledge that the West is a major factor in the high death toll as well..... Because they are. Yes. I don't know, ask them? No I don't. You'll have to do better than that. Why are they targeting civilians specifically then? I asked you not them?? Why don't you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 War= more refugees for BGD to welcome into this country....Do Russian and Syrian airstrikes not displace people and create refugees then? Earlier you were quite happy to accept those displaced by airstrikes as collateral damage, seems you're the one who's relaxed with the idea of creating more refugees...About as much as western air strikes don't you agree??? It's part of war yes, do I want then coming to this country? Do I fcuk..... Why the need to let them in here? Plenty of nearby western armed countries nearby to escape to don't you agree??? The Russian and Syrian airstrikes are more concentrated on areas with large civilian populations and there's been more of them so no I wouldn't agree they've displaced the same number of people as more targeted strikes. Arguing over numbers is a bit pointless though, the fact remains that the airstrikes and regime you support are one of the largest causes of the refugee crisis. I've always said it would be better for the refugees to go to well maintained and protected humanitarian camps closer to Syria... Why do you think they are more concentrated in civilian areas? Do you think they are specifically targeting civilian areas? Why have the USA killed harmless civilians in Syria? You fail to acknowledge that the West is a major factor in the high death toll as well..... Because they are. Yes. I don't know, ask them? No I don't. You'll have to do better than that. Why are they targeting civilians specifically then? I asked you not them?? Why don't you? Nah I'm happy with that answer. I don't pretend to know their motives. Likewise for the Americans. I don't because err, I don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 War= more refugees for BGD to welcome into this country....Do Russian and Syrian airstrikes not displace people and create refugees then? Earlier you were quite happy to accept those displaced by airstrikes as collateral damage, seems you're the one who's relaxed with the idea of creating more refugees...About as much as western air strikes don't you agree??? It's part of war yes, do I want then coming to this country? Do I fcuk..... Why the need to let them in here? Plenty of nearby western armed countries nearby to escape to don't you agree??? The Russian and Syrian airstrikes are more concentrated on areas with large civilian populations and there's been more of them so no I wouldn't agree they've displaced the same number of people as more targeted strikes. Arguing over numbers is a bit pointless though, the fact remains that the airstrikes and regime you support are one of the largest causes of the refugee crisis. I've always said it would be better for the refugees to go to well maintained and protected humanitarian camps closer to Syria... Why do you think they are more concentrated in civilian areas? Do you think they are specifically targeting civilian areas? Why have the USA killed harmless civilians in Syria? You fail to acknowledge that the West is a major factor in the high death toll as well..... Because they are. Yes. I don't know, ask them? No I don't. You'll have to do better than that. Why are they targeting civilians specifically then? I asked you not them?? Why don't you? Nah I'm happy with that answer. I don't pretend to know their motives. Likewise for the Americans. I don't because err, I don't. Basically don't have a Scooby-Doo then.... You believe all the propaganda but have no evidence to back it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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