DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Who do you belive and trust as the best solution in Syria, us or the Russians? I've already got my popcorn ready.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,286 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Who do you belive and trust as the best solution in Syria, us or the Russians? I've already got my popcorn ready.... personally I think the west is arming every raving looney in the desert to overthrow Assad without getting there hands dirty, and Russia are helping an elected leader as written in most of the war law books, we have deliberately caused the unrest from Iraq,Afghanistan, Egypt and Libya, and if we are successful in Syria we will move onto Iran, and who knows what will happen when the heavily armed by us, Kurds turn there attention on the land along the Syrian Turkish border that they wish to call home, it's a frecking mess and the blame is firmly at our feet, sorry but that's my ten pence worth 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 i dont know and dont really care , but i dont want them here 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I'm with the Ruskies on this one without a doubt..... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 i dont know and dont really care , but i dont want them here You should care though as many others should because last I heard it's the west that is getting the brunt of these terrorist attacks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Who do you belive and trust as the best solution in Syria, us or the Russians? I've already got my popcorn ready.... personally I think the west is arming every raving looney in the desert to overthrow Assad without getting there hands dirty, and Russia are helping an elected leader as written in most of the war law books, we have deliberately caused the unrest from Iraq,Afghanistan, Egypt and Libya, and if we are successful in Syria we will move onto Iran, and who knows what will happen when the heavily armed by us, Kurds turn there attention on the land along the Syrian Turkish border that they wish to call home, it's a frecking mess and the blame is firmly at our feet, sorry but that's my ten pence worth Yep, as we've seen with Iraq over throwing a dictator does nothing positive for the middle east.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,883 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Who do you belive and trust as the best solution in Syria, us or the Russians? I've already got my popcorn ready.... personally I think the west is arming every raving looney in the desert to overthrow Assad without getting there hands dirty, and Russia are helping an elected leader as written in most of the war law books, we have deliberately caused the unrest from Iraq,Afghanistan, Egypt and Libya, and if we are successful in Syria we will move onto Iran, and who knows what will happen when the heavily armed by us, Kurds turn there attention on the land along the Syrian Turkish border that they wish to call home, it's a frecking mess and the blame is firmly at our feet, sorry but that's my ten pence worth Cannot argue with that 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 i dont know and dont really care , but i dont want them here You should care though as many others should because last I heard it's the west that is getting the brunt of these terrorist attacks. and what the fk am i going to do about it ? my answer is simple i dont want them here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,883 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 i dont know and dont really care , but i dont want them here You should care though as many others should because last I heard it's the west that is getting the brunt of these terrorist attacks. and what the fk am i going to do about it ? my answer is simple i dont want them here In large numbers who does apart from the self haters or money makers? Everyone should be able to move around and experience the world whilst respecting the local laws/culture etc The Brits ain't innocent when it comes to integrating Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 i dont know and dont really care , but i dont want them here You should care though as many others should because last I heard it's the west that is getting the brunt of these terrorist attacks. and what the fk am i going to do about it ? my answer is simple i dont want them here In large numbers who does apart from the self haters or money makers? Everyone should be able to move around and experience the world whilst respecting the local laws/culture etc The Brits ain't innocent when it comes to integrating lol dont disagree mush ive traveled the world for nover 50 years and yes i have to respect the laws of the land i am on 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,883 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 i dont know and dont really care , but i dont want them here You should care though as many others should because last I heard it's the west that is getting the brunt of these terrorist attacks. and what the fk am i going to do about it ? my answer is simple i dont want them here In large numbers who does apart from the self haters or money makers? Everyone should be able to move around and experience the world whilst respecting the local laws/culture etc The Brits ain't innocent when it comes to integrating lol dont disagree mush ive traveled the world for nover 50 years and yes i have to respect the laws of the land i am on I know that from your previous posts We know what the problem is and I hate to admit it but in this Deserbred is totally right. The government is to blame not the thick backward fuucks that are infesting our home and not all people who have gone to Blighties shores are thick backward fuucks.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 How the situation came about is irrelevant now - it's the current situation that has to be addressed..... You may disagree, but this is how I see it..... Assad won't step down - he knows what happened to Saddam and Gaddafi, once they lost power ! So, with the help of the Russians, hell stick it out, knowing he now has the upper hand. The Russians aim is pretty straightforward - to maintain their influence in a strategically important region of the Middle East. They can achieve this only by keeping Assad in power. If they can eliminate all the middle ground, the so called 'rebel group's, leaving just the Assad regime and Islamic State, it would be impossible for the West to intervene - to attack one side would be to assist the other. With Russian help, Assad could keep IS at bay AND remain in power. I think that, if any progress is to be made, the West (particularly the US), will have to drop their pre-condition that Assad steps down. The Russians will never agree to this (and Assad certainly won't !), and when all is said and done, maybe he is the least bad option ? In the world of international politics, there are no real alliances, only common interests..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 i dont know and dont really care , but i dont want them here You should care though as many others should because last I heard it's the west that is getting the brunt of these terrorist attacks. and what the fk am i going to do about it ? my answer is simple i dont want them here In large numbers who does apart from the self haters or money makers? Everyone should be able to move around and experience the world whilst respecting the local laws/culture etc The Brits ain't innocent when it comes to integrating lol dont disagree mush ive traveled the world for nover 50 years and yes i have to respect the laws of the land i am on I know that from your previous posts We know what the problem is and I hate to admit it but in this Deserbred is totally right. The government is to blame not the thick backward fuucks that are infesting our home and not all people who have gone to Blighties shores are thick backward fuucks.. but they MUST respect our laws not try to change them to suit if the dont like the way we do stuff fk off back . infact dont even bother coming in the first place the bus is full .. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) How the situation came about is irrelevant now - it's the current situation that has to be addressed..... You may disagree, but this is how I see it..... Assad won't step down - he knows what happened to Saddam and Gaddafi, once they lost power ! So, with the help of the Russians, hell stick it out, knowing he now has the upper hand. The Russians aim is pretty straightforward - to maintain their influence in a strategically important region of the Middle East. They can achieve this only by keeping Assad in power. If they can eliminate all the middle ground, the so called 'rebel group's, leaving just the Assad regime and Islamic State, it would be impossible for the West to intervene - to attack one side would be to assist the other. With Russian help, Assad could keep IS at bay AND remain in power. I think that, if any progress is to be made, the West (particularly the US), will have to drop their pre-condition that Assad steps down. The Russians will never agree to this (and Assad certainly won't !), and when all is said and done, maybe he is the least bad option ? In the world of international politics, there are no real alliances, only common interests..... The thing is, the people of Syria voted for Assad. They know that without him the country would be in a worse state being run by rebels. He is the lesser of two evils imo.... Edited October 12, 2016 by DogFox123 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,883 Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 How the situation came about is irrelevant now - it's the current situation that has to be addressed..... You may disagree, but this is how I see it..... Assad won't step down - he knows what happened to Saddam and Gaddafi, once they lost power ! So, with the help of the Russians, hell stick it out, knowing he now has the upper hand. The Russians aim is pretty straightforward - to maintain their influence in a strategically important region of the Middle East. They can achieve this only by keeping Assad in power. If they can eliminate all the middle ground, the so called 'rebel group's, leaving just the Assad regime and Islamic State, it would be impossible for the West to intervene - to attack one side would be to assist the other. With Russian help, Assad could keep IS at bay AND remain in power. I think that, if any progress is to be made, the West (particularly the US), will have to drop their pre-condition that Assad steps down. The Russians will never agree to this (and Assad certainly won't !), and when all is said and done, maybe he is the least bad option ? In the world of international politics, there are no real alliances, only common interests..... The thing is, the people of Syria voted for Assad. They know that without him the country would be in a worse state being run by rebels. He is the lesser of two evils imo.... Sometimes it takes a real man to do the dirty work. Evil or not these men who were/are (aside fuk kim) dictators kept/keep the masses in order without any outside influence 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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