Qbgrey 4,089 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 yes i believe once you go over 7.5 ton you need lorry licences so its a difficult one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,830 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 that big American thing is it a 4x4?,wf yes mate.....it's a 4x4, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,830 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I can see there been a niche for those yanky tanks, not sure about a living though, I mean, in the uk it don't matter a feck what it can tow, you can't go over 7.5 ton with out upping your licence surely ! My truck 'could' tow 5ton, but I couldn't do that on a car licence, so all they have really done is make the vehicle legal to do it, not the driver, and let's be honest, at some of the mpg figures I have seen quoted, I would think a lorry is going to work out cheaper anyway ! yes but........how about if it was registered as an agricultured vehicle (like a tractor) would that work? could be a loophole there.... you can drive a tractor of about 8 ton with a trailer of 10-14 full of corn...or bails of hay, making your load 30 ton+...on a car licence, you can tow a 13 ton 360 digger the same way.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid 1,936 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Technically you can't, you can drive a tractor on a car licence, in fact you can drive them on a bike licence or provisional licence, but legally you are supposed to take a tractor test to tow anything, wonder how many farmers actually know that when they employ harvest students ? I grew up on a farm, and at 16 the old man made me take my tractor test so I could do corn cart, having been doing it for 4 years seemed a bit pointless to me at the time. You are also restricted on mileage, I think it was an 8 mile round trip if I remember correctly, or you had to run on white diesel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,777 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Toyota Land Cruiser Amazon .....4.2 , straight 6 diesel ...will piss it ....no ifs or buts it has the engine and box and gearing to do the job ..don't believe me , try and buy one cheap twenty year old ones with low mileage ( 100,000) will still cost £8000 . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid 1,936 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Toyota Land Cruiser Amazon .....4.2 , straight 6 diesel ...will piss it ....no ifs or buts it has the engine and box and gearing to do the job ..don't believe me , try and buy one cheap twenty year old ones with low mileage ( 100,000) will still cost £8000 . Must admit they were bloody good motors, and yeah they still fetch big money Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,518 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Technically you can't, you can drive a tractor on a car licence, in fact you can drive them on a bike licence or provisional licence, but legally you are supposed to take a tractor test to tow anything, wonder how many farmers actually know that when they employ harvest students ? I grew up on a farm, and at 16 the old man made me take my tractor test so I could do corn cart, having been doing it for 4 years seemed a bit pointless to me at the time. You are also restricted on mileage, I think it was an 8 mile round trip if I remember correctly, or you had to run on white diesel. Driving a tractor with a trailer over 750kgs is illegal unless you've passed a trailer test (or passed a test before 1997) but its one of them laws thats not really enforced Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,361 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I can see there been a niche for those yanky tanks, not sure about a living though, I mean, in the uk it don't matter a feck what it can tow, you can't go over 7.5 ton with out upping your licence surely ! My truck 'could' tow 5ton, but I couldn't do that on a car licence, so all they have really done is make the vehicle legal to do it, not the driver, and let's be honest, at some of the mpg figures I have seen quoted, I would think a lorry is going to work out cheaper anyway ! yes but........how about if it was registered as an agricultured vehicle (like a tractor) would that work? could be a loophole there....you can drive a tractor of about 8 ton with a trailer of 10-14 full of corn...or bails of hay, making your load 30 ton+...on a car licence, you can tow a 13 ton 360 digger the same way.... . I have an agricultural registered Landy, it's not allowed on the motorway and can't travel more than 25 miles a day on the road, so not much good for haulage, the guy in Weston charges around a tenner a mile, so even if it only does 10mpg it's earned a oner and cost a tenner every ten miles, think I could live with that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,830 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I can see there been a niche for those yanky tanks, not sure about a living though, I mean, in the uk it don't matter a feck what it can tow, you can't go over 7.5 ton with out upping your licence surely ! My truck 'could' tow 5ton, but I couldn't do that on a car licence, so all they have really done is make the vehicle legal to do it, not the driver, and let's be honest, at some of the mpg figures I have seen quoted, I would think a lorry is going to work out cheaper anyway !yes but........how about if it was registered as an agricultured vehicle (like a tractor) would that work? could be a loophole there....you can drive a tractor of about 8 ton with a trailer of 10-14 full of corn...or bails of hay, making your load 30 ton+...on a car licence, you can tow a 13 ton 360 digger the same way.... . I have an agricultural registered Landy, it's not allowed on the motorway and can't travel more than 25 miles a day on the road, so not much good for haulage, the guy in Weston charges around a tenner a mile, so even if it only does 10mpg it's earned a oner and cost a tenner every ten miles, think I could live with that it's a bit silly of the authorities not letting you take it on the motorway....as you could drive on the motorway before you had it registered agricultured...the 25 miles a day on the road, that's probably because of the red diesel, there thinking you are on the make from the cheaper price....what about if you was to run on white? would that still apply?...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,518 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I can see there been a niche for those yanky tanks, not sure about a living though, I mean, in the uk it don't matter a feck what it can tow, you can't go over 7.5 ton with out upping your licence surely ! My truck 'could' tow 5ton, but I couldn't do that on a car licence, so all they have really done is make the vehicle legal to do it, not the driver, and let's be honest, at some of the mpg figures I have seen quoted, I would think a lorry is going to work out cheaper anyway !yes but........how about if it was registered as an agricultured vehicle (like a tractor) would that work? could be a loophole there....you can drive a tractor of about 8 ton with a trailer of 10-14 full of corn...or bails of hay, making your load 30 ton+...on a car licence, you can tow a 13 ton 360 digger the same way.... . I have an agricultural registered Landy, it's not allowed on the motorway and can't travel more than 25 miles a day on the road, so not much good for haulage, the guy in Weston charges around a tenner a mile, so even if it only does 10mpg it's earned a oner and cost a tenner every ten miles, think I could live with that it's a bit silly of the authorities not letting you take it on the motorway....as you could drive on the motorway before you had it registered agricultured...the 25 miles a day on the road, that's probably because of the red diesel, there thinking you are on the make from the cheaper price....what about if you was to run on white? would that still apply?...... Why ain't you allowed on the motorway with it ? JCB fastracs are allowed on the motorway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,830 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Toyota Land Cruiser Amazon .....4.2 , straight 6 diesel ...will piss it ....no ifs or buts it has the engine and box and gearing to do the job ..don't believe me , try and buy one cheap twenty year old ones with low mileage ( 100,000) will still cost £8000 . your right there bud....my dads got one 4.2td vx....he's had it now for about 20 years, it's only done 120,000, it's been a brilliant motor, strong and reliable, in a motoring magazine a while back....the land cruiser was voted, one of the worlds best ever made vehicle..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,777 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Toyota Land Cruiser Amazon .....4.2 , straight 6 diesel ...will piss it ....no ifs or buts it has the engine and box and gearing to do the job ..don't believe me , try and buy one cheap twenty year old ones with low mileage ( 100,000) will still cost £8000 . your right there bud....my dads got one 4.2td vx....he's had it now for about 20 years, it's only done 120,000, it's been a brilliant motor, strong and reliable, in a motoring magazine a while back....the land cruiser was voted, one of the worlds best ever made vehicle..... Same as my brothers one , manual gearbox , 3 diff locks , think it's the 90 ..he's has done 260k , including two Maroc challenges . It's used on a daily basis towing and serious of road driving were he lives in Spain ..They are bomb proof . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,830 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Technically you can't, you can drive a tractor on a car licence, in fact you can drive them on a bike licence or provisional licence, but legally you are supposed to take a tractor test to tow anything, wonder how many farmers actually know that when they employ harvest students ? I grew up on a farm, and at 16 the old man made me take my tractor test so I could do corn cart, having been doing it for 4 years seemed a bit pointless to me at the time. You are also restricted on mileage, I think it was an 8 mile round trip if I remember correctly, or you had to run on white diesel. Driving a tractor with a trailer over 750kgs is illegal unless you've passed a trailer test (or passed a test before 1997) but its one of them laws thats not really enforced yeah....same with driving a motorhome, it's a grey area,(as they say) i had my licence before 97, i use to drive my 38ft 10 ton motorhome with a 12ft trailer on it, over all length was about 54ft...it was a glass 5 mot, same as a car, so nothing anyone could do about it..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,830 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Toyota Land Cruiser Amazon .....4.2 , straight 6 diesel ...will piss it ....no ifs or buts it has the engine and box and gearing to do the job ..don't believe me , try and buy one cheap twenty year old ones with low mileage ( 100,000) will still cost £8000 .your right there bud....my dads got one 4.2td vx....he's had it now for about 20 years, it's only done 120,000, it's been a brilliant motor, strong and reliable, in a motoring magazine a while back....the land cruiser was voted, one of the worlds best ever made vehicle..... Same as my brothers one , manual gearbox , 3 diff locks , think it's the 90 ..he's has done 260k , including two Maroc challenges . It's used on a daily basis towing and serious of road driving were he lives in Spain ..They are bomb proof . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,089 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 as soon as you got agri registration you use redvdiesel,if its s business other than agri you must use white and fully register vehicles ie tax,mot etc.that why all these tax cheats are running groundwork businesses on agri and running digger s etc,agregates,muck way with fastracs n trailers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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