bull mcabe 595 Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Just wondering if anyone on here can offer any info on aiding a terriers wind. Have one particular dog on that sometimes has slightly laboured wind. Dog is in his second season and it didn't seem to trouble him when working so far. Just like to hear if any lads have a tip or two for breathing issues other than the usual. Dog is match fit. Sound lads 1 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 There is a condition in dogs ,all types of dogs, that is called reverse sneezing whereby the dog sneezes internally on the intake of breath when exercising .Some lines of terriers have it .It does not adversely affect work but gives the impression the dog is knackered far more than it is .I had it in my line years ago but thought I'd bred it out only for it to reappear lately.The dogs in question are good honest workers but would rather not hear the pug like snorting .The relatively new new blood from NS could have brought it in as I know some of his had it way back .Fitness seems to alleviate the symptoms but its always there .Not saying any of this applies ,just my experience . 3 Quote Link to post
king 11,972 Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 There is a condition in dogs ,all types of dogs, that is called reverse sneezing whereby the dog sneezes internally on the intake of breath when exercising .Some lines of terriers have it .It does not adversely affect work but gives the impression the dog is knackered far more than it is .I had it in my line years ago but thought I'd bred it out only for it to reappear lately.The dogs in question are good honest workers but would rather not hear the pug like snorting .The relatively new new blood from NS could have brought it in as I know some of his had it way back .Fitness seems to alleviate the symptoms but its always there .Not saying any of this applies ,just my experience .Ive never heard of that before.You learn something new everyday. Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 There is a condition in dogs ,all types of dogs, that is called reverse sneezing whereby the dog sneezes internally on the intake of breath when exercising .Some lines of terriers have it .It does not adversely affect work but gives the impression the dog is knackered far more than it is .I had it in my line years ago but thought I'd bred it out only for it to reappear lately.The dogs in question are good honest workers but would rather not hear the pug like snorting .The relatively new new blood from NS could have brought it in as I know some of his had it way back .Fitness seems to alleviate the symptoms but its always there .Not saying any of this applies ,just my experience . so did your own terriers you said... so if you gelled the 2 knowing this of course it will show up... Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 There is a condition in dogs ,all types of dogs, that is called reverse sneezing whereby the dog sneezes internally on the intake of breath when exercising .Some lines of terriers have it .It does not adversely affect work but gives the impression the dog is knackered far more than it is .I had it in my line years ago but thought I'd bred it out only for it to reappear lately.The dogs in question are good honest workers but would rather not hear the pug like snorting .The relatively new new blood from NS could have brought it in as I know some of his had it way back .Fitness seems to alleviate the symptoms but its always there .Not saying any of this applies ,just my experience . I've had a couple of litters that had elongated soft palate, easy to sort out, a simple operation. I've never seen it before a certain stud was used and I don't know anyone else that's had it before. Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just wondering if anyone on here can offer any info on aiding a terriers wind. Have one particular dog on that sometimes has slightly laboured wind. Dog is in his second season and it didn't seem to trouble him when working so far. Just like to hear if any lads have a tip or two for breathing issues other than the usual. Dog is match fit. Sound lads Bull, did you work the terrier in his first season ? Quote Link to post
bull mcabe 595 Posted October 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 Yes I did Neil. He worked to a high standard opting for the hard side so far. At the end of a couple of digs he seemed caught for wind when lifted. Quote Link to post
THE GENERAL 1,982 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) I can relate to this but only from experience from owning a bitch pup I was gifted over 10 yrs ago from a close friend. She was fit as a fiddle always but she would have laid down the odd time on walks panting heavily, even out running the fields at the rear of my house she would blow up quickly and lie chest down legs out as if she was punctured. Funny thing about it was she was always lacking in wind at times out road walking with the other terriers and she would lie down on her chest and I thought I would have had to carry her home, never did, never had too. I would stop and let her gather herself and within a few seconds she was good to go. The same bitch when she was underground whether it was for 30min or 3hrs and we had a few 4 hour digs to her before she died doing her job. It didn't matter to her, she done what she had to do but you would have thought every breath she took was her last when you pulled her out. I mentioned it to lots of lads and no one turned it. Very interesting thread. Edited October 9, 2016 by THE GENERAL Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Yes I did Neil. He worked to a high standard opting for the hard side so far. At the end of a couple of digs he seemed caught for wind when lifted. Oh OK, so we can dismiss damage caused by a bad bite or being choked by an inexperienced handler. Like some of the lads said it could be a genetic thing . Some terriers will work recklessly and run out of wind quickly. I bred a terrier a few years back who's owner used to crown through too only to find an unconscious terrier with the quarry gone. In the end the owner used to take the terrier for a 3 or 4 mile walk BEFORE going digging and it seemed to take the edge of him and he settled down a wee bit in his work. Some of the bulldog fanciers give their dogs an anaerobic steroid meant for asthma sufferers before a show. It causes the wind pipe to widen allowing more air to the lungs. Sorry but I don't have anymore info on this but it might be worth investigating. A terrier that's likely to get stuck in but run out of wind is a recipe for trouble. I hope ye sort it out. Quote Link to post
Rat face 1,655 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I have a bitch on at the mo that is showing the same signs as mentioned above keep the info coming lads Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I have a dog that's similar also. The warm weather seems to make it worse for him. In the Winter he's fine. Quote Link to post
bull mcabe 595 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I'd say genetics has a lot to do with it. There is bull in the blood but a fair way back yet the rest of the litter has no issues whatsoever. The dog in question ticks all the right boxes so far and is very well made. He could be an ideal potential stud dog if he kept going the way he his or used his tongue a bit more lol. But murphys law he was the only dog on the litter and it wouldn't be the greatest idea to be carrying on the gene with bad wind. Time will tell though. Quote Link to post
onion jonny 526 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 had a dog do this went to vet and it had a heart murmer grade two so not the worse but like neil says could be career ending, Quote Link to post
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