Hare Shoots On Estates.

[Tiercel 6,986]

It seems the almost perfect answer is relocation, that if done correctly almost always works. However, relocation does not answer the question of why the original hares died out. It is almost certain that the same will happen with the relocated hares. Find the cause of the decline in the original population and fix that. There are many reasons for a decline of hares in an area, mostly I would say it's Silage cutting as it kills the leverets. Unkeepered ground, the decline of the lapwing all contribute to the decline of the hare. That is without the pressures put on them by a man and his dog.

TC

[ryaldinhio 4,686]

man and dog were not controlling or damaging the hare population as much as they will.never wipe bunnies or foxes out. It is generally for sport and for a few to fill the pots.

 

The problem is the mindless idiots that spoil it for the rest. I know a few farmers around here who have had livestock escape and land damaged by idiots in 4x4s 'coursing'. Also they have let leople have permission only to be robbed months later and never see them again. Thats why Im strugglin for local permissions and that is why the dog game has such a bad name and unfortunately it is an ever downward spiral. That is why things like this happen as these estates would rather leave a rotting pile of corpses than take the risk of gettin subaru foresters running across fields taking deer when they were only meant to be pest control on bunnies and hare.....then the barn was robbed.

[Wales1234 5,546]

Around here people are shooting foxes like f**k with night vision on common ground ! And leaving them there it's not sport

[chrisbullx 2,541]

I hate guns full stop

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

Around here people are shooting foxes like f**k with night vision on common ground ! And leaving them there it's not sport

Same guys will shoot anything that they see too.

As you know there's not many here's around our part, or certainly not my way on, when there used to be a few kicking about the hills...that too is down to 4x4, rifle and nightvision. You be hard pushed to see anything near me.

[Daniel cain 45,817]

Sit there posing for pics with 5/6 3/4 grown cubs-sooner see them sunbathing on the side of the road.atb dc

[neil cooney 10,416]

just want to know we often hear about driven hare shoots and 100s of hares being shot on estates in a season over in england.has any legal irish coursing club or clubs or any one indivudal ever tried to catch these hares for release in ireland.would they survive.i know they are a different breed of hare to whats here in ireland. it just seems to be an awful waste of beautiful running machine.

They would survive perfectly well in the Irish countryside as there's a small population of Brown Hares in the North but for a club affiliated to the ICC to do it they would probably be breaking the law and it would also give ammunition to the antis.

[Saluki71 110]

Absolute rubbish about only shooting surplus hares, a gun cannot know if the hare shot is strong or weak, a shotgun doesn't discriminate, also hares are mostly picked up with broken limbs or internal bleeding, an estate we used to run in Lincolnshire had over 2500 hares on it before the ban, the last hare count in 2014 was 147, the land owner has now kicked off all the guns as they were shooting hares and dumping them in a ditch against his wishes.

If labour win the next election then there will be no shooting whatsoever.

[neil cooney 10,416]

Absolute rubbish about only shooting surplus hares, a gun cannot know if the hare shot is strong or weak, a shotgun doesn't discriminate, also hares are mostly picked up with broken limbs or internal bleeding, an estate we used to run in Lincolnshire had over 2500 hares on it before the ban, the last hare count in 2014 was 147, the land owner has now kicked off all the guns as they were shooting hares and dumping them in a ditch against his wishes.

If labour win the next election then there will be no shooting whatsoever.

Saluki, I'm not sure if your saying by your post if it would be good for shooting to be banned but one thing here in Eire that really annoyed me when the Irish Coursing Club decided to muzzle greyhounds at OPEN meetings is that they didn't argue the point that Hares when coursed, fairly, on their own ground benefit from a natural selection that enables good healthy Hares to go forth and breed, as you have mentioned.

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

Same goes with foxes hunted by hounds Neil, fit healthy specimens have every chance of eluding the pack. And as for Labour winning the next election Saluki no way! Keep the faith mate in the Tories as a slim chance is better than none at all!

[billhardy 2,342]

Absolute rubbish about only shooting surplus hares, a gun cannot know if the hare shot is strong or weak, a shotgun doesn't discriminate, also hares are mostly picked up with broken limbs or internal bleeding, an estate we used to run in Lincolnshire had over 2500 hares on it before the ban, the last hare count in 2014 was 147, the land owner has now kicked off all the guns as they were shooting hares and dumping them in a ditch against his wishes.

If labour win the next election then there will be no shooting whatsoever.

. It don't half make one angry but this has been going on for time we all no the issues with the strong and the culls and shooting doe not decide this but here's the thing country side activities field work shooting etc should all stand has one the marches back then this was what I thought they were about ,but sadly no the average joe blogs was sold down the river . Feck em divisions in all sections of life and like most there be those who have there own backs and feck the rest minority types in the field will always be that I shall hunt till I either drop of am dead atb ta the minority hunters who Eva they maybe feck the the ego driven types they are just that . Atb bunnys.

[Guest Navek]

I wouldn't take part in a hare shoot as for me there'd be no point . I'd shoot a hare for the pot and I have shot hares for the pot and I couldn't realy give a f**k what others think about that..at end day shooting a hare for the pot is no diffrence shooting a rabbit for the pot .....however hare drives would not interest me in the slightest as like been said masses of them are shot with out any real chance of escap and left to rot

[billhardy 2,342]

 

Absolute rubbish about only shooting surplus hares, a gun cannot know if the hare shot is strong or weak, a shotgun doesn't discriminate, also hares are mostly picked up with broken limbs or internal bleeding, an estate we used to run in Lincolnshire had over 2500 hares on it before the ban, the last hare count in 2014 was 147, the land owner has now kicked off all the guns as they were shooting hares and dumping them in a ditch against his wishes.

If labour win the next election then there will be no shooting whatsoever.

. It don't half make one angry but this has been going on for time we all no the issues with the strong and the culls and shooting doe not decide this but here's the thing country side activities field work shooting etc should all stand has one the marches back then this was what I thought they were about ,but sadly no the average joe blogs was sold down the river . Feck em divisions in all sections of life and like most there be those who have there own backs and feck the rest minority types in the field will always be that I shall hunt till I either drop of am dead atb ta the minority hunters who Eva they maybe feck the the ego driven types they are just that . Atb bunnys.

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Saluki is bang right

Shooting is indiscriminate and not a clean way of controlling Hares.

Coursing is discriminate and clean and after around 5 years of an estate being handed over to Coursing if Hares are respected ' given fair law and only ran Mid sep to mid March latest then the hares on that estate will improve ' be for the best part fit and healthy.

Shooting of hares is not on ' especially en mass by lines of guns .

Tin hat time but I would definatley support a ban of shooting Hares en mass .

. I find it difficult to discriminate against anyone even shooting I believe block shooting of long ears turns my gut and believe landowners should come to some form of laws on numbers etc that are shot and how they are utilised most of these shooters make my piss boil for this very reason there be lots of failed dog men that take ta shooting I feel these types think and truly believe they're heads and shoulders above others when in reality they're failed men I know a few lol .gate hole shooting at night ta leave em where they drop feckers atb bunnys.

[Saluki71 110]

I'm not saying shooting should be banned and I've no problem with shooting a hare for the pot, but until the ban is repealed the hare will continue to pay the price because of not only the antis but tony blaire who took a million pounds from the league against cruel sports.

Also don't trust the countryside alliance when they say they are trying for repeal, don't forget we could have been hunting with a license but they vetoed it, also I was present at a meeting not too long ago when the alliance tried to get support for keeping the ban on coursing if fox hunting would be made legal. I've also heard on the grapevine that Tim bonner is against coursing but I have no concrete proof of this, I have emailed him several times but as yet have had no reply, I did send an article to the countrymans weekly but they wouldn't print it, I wonder why?

[trenchfoot 4,243]

I'm not saying shooting should be banned and I've no problem with shooting a hare for the pot, but until the ban is repealed the hare will continue to pay the price because of not only the antis but tony blaire who took a million pounds from the league against cruel sports.

Also don't trust the countryside alliance when they say they are trying for repeal, don't forget we could have been hunting with a license but they vetoed it, also I was present at a meeting not too long ago when the alliance tried to get support for keeping the ban on coursing if fox hunting would be made legal. I've also heard on the grapevine that Tim bonner is against coursing but I have no concrete proof of this, I have emailed him several times but as yet have had no reply, I did send an article to the countrymans weekly but they wouldn't print it, I wonder why?

How long ago was that meeting?