Greyhounds

[ginger beard 4,652]

£800 for a pair i can justify.to be honest i thought there was alot of greys bred that they cull most of the pups because they don't want to sell there blood to rivals.

[morton 5,368]

looking for a pup next spring/summer and after umming and arring i think i fancy a couple of greyhounds.i'm just going to enter them and use them just the same as lurchers.anybody on here had a pure greyhound from a pup and how did it turn out.?how much for a good one.?and anything else that could come in handy.cheers.

Id not waste your time mucker,they always lack wind.You can train them like a lurcher,enter them like a lurcher,then realise the average lurcher is a better option in the field than any Greyhound,all the time.I tried it,twice,i never learnt the first lesson.

[ginger beard 4,652]

i sort of know that morton but it always pops into my head and when something does it plants a seed in there.maxhardcore why do you never see greys for sale at 8 weeks,it's always 12/15 weeks when they can learn more with me at that time then in kennels.?don't think i'd want one older than 8 weeks.

[morton 5,368]

i sort of know that morton but it always pops into my head and when something does it plants a seed in there.maxhardcore why do you never see greys for sale at 8 weeks,it's always 12/15 weeks when they can learn more with me at that time then in kennels.?don't think i'd want one older than 8 weeks.

I like Greyhounds,i like what they offer on the track and what the best of them offered at Coursing meets.Ive never owned or seen one that could compete with a piss poor lurcher.The reason that lurchers became the dominant hunting jukel is because Greyhounds failed to.All the best lurchers have Grey in the mix,the more diluted the more competent the lurcher.

[ginger beard 4,652]

 

i sort of know that morton but it always pops into my head and when something does it plants a seed in there.maxhardcore why do you never see greys for sale at 8 weeks,it's always 12/15 weeks when they can learn more with me at that time then in kennels.?don't think i'd want one older than 8 weeks.

I like Greyhounds,i like what they offer on the track and what the best of them offered at Coursing meets.Ive never owned or seen one that could compete with a piss poor lurcher.The reason that lurchers became the dominant hunting jukel is because Greyhounds failed to.All the best lurchers have Grey in the mix,the more diluted the more competent the lurcher.

 

i thought lurchers became popular to hide the shape of the greys because greys were for royalty.only had what people call longdogs.all running dog for me.

[morton 5,368]

 

 

i sort of know that morton but it always pops into my head and when something does it plants a seed in there.maxhardcore why do you never see greys for sale at 8 weeks,it's always 12/15 weeks when they can learn more with me at that time then in kennels.?don't think i'd want one older than 8 weeks.

I like Greyhounds,i like what they offer on the track and what the best of them offered at Coursing meets.Ive never owned or seen one that could compete with a piss poor lurcher.The reason that lurchers became the dominant hunting jukel is because Greyhounds failed to.All the best lurchers have Grey in the mix,the more diluted the more competent the lurcher.

 

i thought lurchers became popular to hide the shape of the greys because greys were for royalty.only had what people call longdogs.all running dog for me.

 

They bred them to herding mutts,chopped their tails off and eventually called them Norfolks.And we think we have trouble circumnavigating the hunting laws.The Grey was initially rough jacketed,rough jacketed and a piss poor hunter,then the intro of Bull gave them a brindle shaved jacket and a fleeter disposition,still poor lurchers.The more we bred away from the Grey,still utilised the Grey,the better equipped the jukel became in the field.The facts are the original lurchers where Grey/Pastoral bred,the facts are still evident that after many a century Grey/Pastoral breeding is the dominant influence in proper and tested Lurcher breeding.

[morton 5,368]

Morton it was because working class were not allowed to own greyhounds.

So if they could sneak one across a working dog or droving dog they did

Thus the lurcher came about.

Not all greyhounds are suited for work but some will and do.

And a good one will def do a better job than a bad lurcher

Especially on hare ' fox and hoof.

One of the finest fox slayers ive witnessed was a 29" blue failed track Greyhound,it cost me £25,i worked it for a year,lined a bitch with it and spent more time accounting for what it lacked than what it offered,its progeny where OK,geez the amount of time i carried them from the field when the field became to much for them,they ALWAYS lack wind,ALWAYS.! good run on an hare,1 fox is about their worth.The main reason Greys where bred away from was to improve the aptitude of the Hunting hound.Because of the earliest of hunting laws,that were augmented to be prejudicial to the serfs,lurchers evolved to become Lurchers,its in their name.Again the more they are bred away from the Grey the better they befit their name.

[roybo 2,873]

All this why lurchers were invented is romanticism, nothing more nothing less.

The average man couldn't afford a greyhound back then, they were gifts of royals and nobles .they probably got studs by any means possible .

There isn't any linage from the lurchers of the middle ages to modern lurchers.

So there's no point in trying to say lurchers came about from hunting laws .

Greyhounds where also totally different ,as racing hadn't been invented.

Greyhounds of the day were the equivalent of today's lurcher ,as they wasn't as specialized for all out speed.

[low plains drifter 10,619]

Smaller and slighter

Check out that little American bitch that ran in the last Waterloo.

She was more like the coursing greyhounds of the 1800's

48-58 lbs weight

I remember that big hearted little bitch, Cashel's Evening was her name

[billhardy 2,342]

Difference greys of old were bred ta catch game not race the other dog in the slips ,I have grown up round lots a pure greys that worked and I can say 2 bitches took mostly everything and a male ,but they were not has a lurcher his I lampering with a fella fa yrs that ran only greys he liked speed and animals easily kept once again they were not like lurchers there be today's lampreys and lots need the ability ta stay twice a week sometimes more with the ability ta stay sound ,if one just messing a hound will get yas by in some cases and catch most stuff but they not lurchers no matter how small light and compact.these bitches averaged around fifty five pounds or there a bouts but they ain't gonna run thirty rabbs consistently in numbers I would think a good bred saluki will do same job and stay sound with the ability ta take good numbers of rabbits greys at four yrs old that have been grafted fecking look like they ancient a sound lurcher at this age just made not fecked.atb bunnys.

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

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[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

I don't think she would do too well on small land. Those greys seem to take forever to turn.

in my opinion she was tucked in well behind it. And if a greyhound wouldn't do well on small fields no dog would? They are fast as f***ing hell. Put your dog on a -100 yard slip amd see how all these perfect lurchers fair up lol not having a dig just saying.

Also, alot of these coursing greyhounds wasn't used after they started running cunning...my experience is limited on coursing circle but this is what I was always led to believe. Anyone confirm this!?

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

 

 

 

I don't think she would do too well on small land. Those greys seem to take forever to turn.

in my opinion she was tucked in well behind it. And if a greyhound wouldn't do well on small fields no dog would? They are fast as f***ing hell. Put your dog on a -100 yard slip amd see how all these perfect lurchers fair up lol not having a dig just saying.

Also, alot of these coursing greyhounds wasn't used after they started running cunning...my experience is limited on coursing circle but this is what I was always led to believe. Anyone confirm this!?

Yes fast as hell and the tuning circle of a barge, hare would be gone on small land.

so that bitch in the clip over shots loads did she? When paired up they loose more ground as well due to avoiding collision...also like as I been said plus max has said, she was brought over just to give her a go...who's to say after a season she could of been a killing machine lol....

 

It's like taking out a lurcher for first time ever, even the first season, if everyone's truthful...most lurchers take a while to know the crack...