mackay 3,364 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Looks like I am the only one then. If you have a party that is the complete opposite of the government, and that party is strong but not too strong, then you have an efficient opposition. Any party in power without an efficient opposition is in all but name a dictatorship. TC Like the new labour years under Blair and Brown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Thought this was an interesting article coming from a Tory. As he explicitly set out in his hugely important speech this afternoon, Corbyn has broken from the consensus politics of the last quarter of a century. From the rise of Tony Blair in 1994 until the general election of 2015, there was to use Corbyns potent phrase from Liverpool today a "political stitch up" between the main political parties. There was an unspoken agreement between Tories and Labour that they would only work within very constrained parameters. The Cameron Conservative Party and the Blairite Labour Party both advocated near identical spending and taxation targets. They both supported the marketisation of the public sector. They both agreed the same neoliberal economic model. In foreign policy terms, both main parties accepted British subordination to the United States of America, and therefore a neoconservative doctrine of armed intervention in order to advance the interests of the West in the Middle East and elsewhere. Nobody can claim that these twin doctrines - neoliberalism at home and neoconservatism abroad - were successful. They led to debacles in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, as well as the banking crash of 2008. But anyone who challenged these two orthodoxies was politically marginalised. This afternoon, Corbyn became the first leader of a mainstream political party to directly challenge this paradigm, with his assertion that "the old model is broken and were in a new era". Corbyn deserves almost unlimited credit for offering an alternative. http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/according-british-media-class-last-week-has-been-unmitigated-disaster-labour-lead-1488108898 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,364 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Well he deserves "almost unlimited credit" for plumbing new depths of hypocrisy with his shadow cabinet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,789 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Diane Abott shadow home secetary has got to be a winde up surely lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,875 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Shadow is right !! Lol lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) How can they expect the White working class voters to relate to the people he is appointing to his shadow cabinet? All they will get is some public sector employed, middle class metropolitan leftists, students and the least aspirational immigrants. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3825512/Jeremy-Corbyn-SACKS-chief-whip-starts-reshuffle-landslide-win-against-Labour-MPs.html Edited October 6, 2016 by shepp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Shadow is right !! Lol lol Come on pal you'll never get her into bed cracking on like that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,364 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Shadow minister for black and ethnic minority communities ???. WTF, just imagine if it were white communities, and if this clown and his performing troupe have their way it won't be too long before whites are a fecking minority. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Cant vote for labour with him in charge or his sidekick abbott. Never liked labour since blair got in. Im actually liking the new direction the tories are making. f**k didn't think i would ever say that lol but time will tell. See if they actually will stay on track. jacob rees mogg id back him for PM. He might be posh but he dont pretend to be anything else and aint scared to go into areas the tories are despised in. He's a good egg lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,789 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 And to think theirs deluded fools who think J.C and the labour party will be running the country one day 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 just think, there are deluded fools who will still vote labour!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,789 Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 just think, there are deluded fools who will still vote labour!! True the town I live is full of them despite what they have done to the town. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,789 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 FFS just seen that numpty on question time Emily Thornberry .Labour are scrapeing the barrel having this woman on their front benches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 FFS just seen that numpty on question time Emily Thornberry .Labour are scrapeing the barrel having this woman on their front benches. Im to busy seething @that wee fat pie salmond to listen to her lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginger beard 4,652 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Cant vote for labour with him in charge or his sidekick abbott. Never liked labour since blair got in. Im actually liking the new direction the tories are making. f**k didn't think i would ever say that lol but time will tell. See if they actually will stay on track. jacob rees mogg id back him for PM. He might be posh but he dont pretend to be anything else and aint scared to go into areas the tories are despised in. He's a good egg lol that jacob rees mogg is a great british eccentric.when ali g tried to interview him,he made ali g look stupid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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