Teaching Bite Inhibition

[reddog70 236]

teaching puppies early bite inhibition what do you make of it

[walshie 2,804]

I thought a dog mouthing you however hard, was a dominance thing.

 

What's the point of teaching it to mouth gently? Not at all is far better.

[reddog70 236]

yeah always thought the same not sure what i make of it to be honest

[skycat 6,174]

I thought a dog mouthing you however hard, was a dominance thing.

 

What's the point of teaching it to mouth gently? Not at all is far better.

I'ts not necessarily a dominance thing, but often the sign of intense drive. I've always allowed gentle mouthing: it is a way in which the dog can connect to me. It sees me as a powerful attraction, something to be close to. One of my most zany, intense lurchers which was Saluki blooded but more of a high-powered speed machine, was so manic that the only way to keep him calm as a pup was to let him hold my hand, which he did, very carefully, never left a mark. He was a very rewarding animal to work with and understood the rules of any games we played faster than any other dog I've had. He wasn't dominant in the slightest, and I do think that the whole dominance issue is very much misunderstood by many dog owners. Too many people mistake drive for dominance: there's a massive difference between a truly dominant dog and one that is simply responding to stimulus. The excitement some dogs feel before they go out hunting can also be seen in wolves which mouth each other before a hunt. They are not trying to dominate the other, it's more of a feel-good factor which brings the pack together in hunting mode.

[Casso 1,261]

 

 

I thought a dog mouthing you however hard, was a dominance thing.

 

What's the point of teaching it to mouth gently? Not at all is far better.

I'ts not necessarily a dominance thing, but often the sign of intense drive. I've always allowed gentle mouthing: it is a way in which the dog can connect to me. It sees me as a powerful attraction, something to be close to. One of my most zany, intense lurchers which was Saluki blooded but more of a high-powered speed machine, was so manic that the only way to keep him calm as a pup was to let him hold my hand, which he did, very carefully, never left a mark. He was a very rewarding animal to work with and understood the rules of any games we played faster than any other dog I've had. He wasn't dominant in the slightest, and I do think that the whole dominance issue is very much misunderstood by many dog owners. Too many people mistake drive for dominance: there's a massive difference between a truly dominant dog and one that is simply responding to stimulus. The excitement some dogs feel before they go out hunting can also be seen in wolves which mouth each other before a hunt. They are not trying to dominate the other, it's more of a feel-good factor which brings the pack together in hunting mode.

Like that ,

Mouthing is how pups explore the world , a pup feels more secure if it can mouth an object of attraction , they soon learn to turn down the intensity when they begin tuning in and relax in your space

Never ever saw a pup allowed to mouth turn into a biter because it turns mouthing into a social action through association

 

Just to add a dog don't need any of this once he feels secure in his work and in his owner, inihabition is part and parcel of having a social animal in other words what does social mean, that lad above in the clip is a bullshitter

Edited September 26, 2016 by Casso

[Lenmcharristar 9,908]

2 good posts above

[beast 1,884]

pups NEED to bite and mouth each other, adult dogs and people, and this sublimates as they mature. to tell a pup not to bite you is like telling a toddler not to try to walk. i always have a little toy in my pocket and let the pup have a chew on that if he wants to, while i hold the other end.

 

mouthing in an adult dog is not always dominance related, in fact there is a whole pattern of dominance behaviour of which biting is one small aspect, and if a person hasnt been able to read all the other signs before reaching the bite then they really shouldnt have a dog.

 

skycat is right, highly driven dogs put in a position of being stimulated need to vent somehow, and sometimes the only outklet they have is mouthing the owners hand or lead. watch the obedience tests at crufts, collies 9one of the most highly driven breeds around) being mad to control every urge and focus SOOO intensely for quite some time, when they finish in the ring watch them leave. for a few seconds as they leave a significant number bite their owners like maniacs, and i have seen handlers dragged onto the floor

 

this is why the use of a ball as a training reard for working drug dogs etc is so effective, after a spell of focus and stimulation the dog gets to bite something

[boyo 1,398]

Was i the only one hoping the rotty would bite him??

[Greyman 29,004]

Funny when he says don't try this I,ve been training dogs for ten years, that may seem impressive to him because he,s only a boy, there are people on here in the pub and down the shops who have been training dogs for thirty, forty years and they are worth a listen, but in the big world, video lad has only just finished his apprenticeship so I don't think I,ll be taking notes

[lurcherman 887 13,264]

Was i the only one hoping the rotty would bite him??

 

No ?

[reddog70 236]

i dont see a real problem with lurcher/ sighthound type pups mouthing at an early age i never correct unless they get to exited and even then am quite indifferent unless it gets to intense, dominance to humans in these types is far less heard of than guarding breeds i think with these its probably better to keep your domanace over them rather than ever put them in a position that they feel they need to bite you however hard and respect there space and stop anyone pestering them etc.. in these breeds i dont think i would ever teach it

[Malt 379]

I always let a dog I know really well mouth my hands, I think it builds trust between you and the dog. As long as you are clear and let the dog know you won't let it take the piss. It might well be the dog testing you as a pup but it's a good way of letting the dog know you ain't going to let it take the piss IMO.

[Malt 379]

..I also had a hob ferret which used to gently take my finger in his mouth and play once and all.

[mushroom 13,261]

..I also had a hob ferret which used to gently take my finger in his mouth and play once and all.

I had one like that too mate he was a right character that hob (Steve) would do his mad dance then rush you jumping on your legs etc and if you put your hand down, finger out he would take it gentle as and let you curl it around his canines then when it was a good grip he'd start playing away

[Malt 379]

 

 

..I also had a hob ferret which used to gently take my finger in his mouth and play once and all.

I had one like that too mate he was a right character that hob (Steve) would do his mad dance then rush you jumping on your legs etc and if you put your hand down, finger out he would take it gentle as and let you curl it around his canines then when it was a good grip he'd start playing away

That's exactly what mine used to do as well Kie, he used to (gently) try dragging me off behind the settee!