DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Salukis are a working dog ,most coursing bred crosses are just that coursing dogs so the stories can be slanted either way. What I will say is in PreBan days a good dog would be put to any quarry on any land in any weather and will not only run carefully selected opponents .. Long range slips make for a better test of a dog .My method is if the dog sees it then it gets slipped on if its in the same County. . Matches because they were based on kills the game plans were different but for days out they should be fair play all round for hare and dog. As has been said the hare doesnt get into gear until the dog is bearing down on it so wizz bangers need shorter slips other wise they would be blowiing before they get on terms from a long slip. Some dogs have pace and wind but the clever coursing dogs know when to go up and down the gears and when to press when to hold back and when to strike you would see lots of the fast dogs over run and often struggle to get back on terms if they miss the first strike but it was all part of a day out so it was enjoyed i what ever happened. A lot of the bad habits can be directly attributed to the introduction of the Hunting with Dogs ActI've seen non coursing bred Lurchers catch Hares from a fair distance away when out for a mooch. You would have i ve seen the longest slips for salukis that most dogs wouldnt even attempt tp get on terms, its not a contest between breeds of dog, its dog against hare on any particular day no matter want slant people want to put on it Not just me, the people I've been out with. Most dogs with anything about them would attempt to get on terms. Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Salukis are a working dog ,most coursing bred crosses are just that coursing dogs so the stories can be slanted either way. What I will say is in PreBan days a good dog would be put to any quarry on any land in any weather and will not only run carefully selected opponents .. Long range slips make for a better test of a dog .My method is if the dog sees it then it gets slipped on if its in the same County. . Matches because they were based on kills the game plans were different but for days out they should be fair play all round for hare and dog. As has been said the hare doesnt get into gear until the dog is bearing down on it so wizz bangers need shorter slips other wise they would be blowiing before they get on terms from a long slip. Some dogs have pace and wind but the clever coursing dogs know when to go up and down the gears and when to press when to hold back and when to strike you would see lots of the fast dogs over run and often struggle to get back on terms if they miss the first strike but it was all part of a day out so it was enjoyed i what ever happened. A lot of the bad habits can be directly attributed to the introduction of the Hunting with Dogs ActI've seen non coursing bred Lurchers catch Hares from a fair distance away when out for a mooch. You would have i ve seen the longest slips for salukis that most dogs wouldnt even attempt tp get on terms, its not a contest between breeds of dog, its dog against hare on any particular day no matter want slant people want to put on it Not just me, the people I've been out with. Most dogs with anything about them would attempt to get on terms. I know different about dogs trying to get on terms I have been out with lads on here who couldnt even see what I had slipped on. I rely on my dogs sight they pull they go lads realise after the ground is made that they are on.Im talking big slips not a couple of hundred yards. 2 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Salukis are a working dog ,most coursing bred crosses are just that coursing dogs so the stories can be slanted either way. What I will say is in PreBan days a good dog would be put to any quarry on any land in any weather and will not only run carefully selected opponents .. Long range slips make for a better test of a dog .My method is if the dog sees it then it gets slipped on if its in the same County. . Matches because they were based on kills the game plans were different but for days out they should be fair play all round for hare and dog. As has been said the hare doesnt get into gear until the dog is bearing down on it so wizz bangers need shorter slips other wise they would be blowiing before they get on terms from a long slip. Some dogs have pace and wind but the clever coursing dogs know when to go up and down the gears and when to press when to hold back and when to strike you would see lots of the fast dogs over run and often struggle to get back on terms if they miss the first strike but it was all part of a day out so it was enjoyed i what ever happened. A lot of the bad habits can be directly attributed to the introduction of the Hunting with Dogs ActI've seen non coursing bred Lurchers catch Hares from a fair distance away when out for a mooch. You would have i ve seen the longest slips for salukis that most dogs wouldnt even attempt tp get on terms, its not a contest between breeds of dog, its dog against hare on any particular day no matter want slant people want to put on itNot just me, the people I've been out with. Most dogs with anything about them would attempt to get on terms. I know different about dogs trying to get on terms I have been out with lads on here who couldnt even see what I had slipped on. I rely on my dogs sight they pull they go lads realise after the ground is made that they are on.Im talking big slips not a couple of hundred yards.Well seeing as though dogs can't see as good as humans you must have some canines. ? Edited January 7, 2017 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 yours must have shit eye sight 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 yours must have shit eye sight Or you might be talking shite.... ? 1 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 A dog can detect motion at 800/900 metres can you? 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 A dog can detect motion at 800/900 metres can you? Dogs cannot see at a distance as good as humans, do you disagree with that? Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,596 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Salukis are a working dog ,most coursing bred crosses are just that coursing dogs so the stories can be slanted either way. What I will say is in PreBan days a good dog would be put to any quarry on any land in any weather and will not only run carefully selected opponents .. Long range slips make for a better test of a dog .My method is if the dog sees it then it gets slipped on if its in the same County. . Matches because they were based on kills the game plans were different but for days out they should be fair play all round for hare and dog. As has been said the hare doesnt get into gear until the dog is bearing down on it so wizz bangers need shorter slips other wise they would be blowiing before they get on terms from a long slip. Some dogs have pace and wind but the clever coursing dogs know when to go up and down the gears and when to press when to hold back and when to strike you would see lots of the fast dogs over run and often struggle to get back on terms if they miss the first strike but it was all part of a day out so it was enjoyed i what ever happened. A lot of the bad habits can be directly attributed to the introduction of the Hunting with Dogs ActI've seen non coursing bred Lurchers catch Hares from a fair distance away when out for a mooch. You would have i ve seen the longest slips for salukis that most dogs wouldnt even attempt tp get on terms, its not a contest between breeds of dog, its dog against hare on any particular day no matter want slant people want to put on itNot just me, the people I've been out with. Most dogs with anything about them would attempt to get on terms. I know different about dogs trying to get on terms I have been out with lads on here who couldnt even see what I had slipped on. I rely on my dogs sight they pull they go lads realise after the ground is made that they are on.Im talking big slips not a couple of hundred yards.Well seeing as though dogs can't see as good as humans you must have some canines. What utter Bollocks,my old shepherd lurcher could catch stuff in the dark I couldn't see, same as years ago poachers didn't have lamps that advertised they were there,dogs caught in the dark and by moonlight as if it was small they retrieved to hand be it a hare ,rabbit or the farmers chicken. 3 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,596 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 A dog can detect motion at 800/900 metres can you? Dogs cannot see at a distance as good as humans, do you disagree with that? Yeah I do. 1 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 DOGS MOTION DETECTION AND LONG DISTANCE VISION Dogs have much better motion detection than humans, due to the number of rods in the centre of the back of their eye. This means that in low light conditions (such as hunting at night) dogs can both see in low light conditions as well as detect the smallest of movement from prey. While they will not be able to detect camouflaged animals as well as humans (dues to our higher colour range detection) they can easily detect the slightest animal movement. The previous segment stated that dogs have lower visual accurity than humans and less depth of field (ability to judge distance). And it is the large pupils (designed to let in more light for night vision), that causes dogs to only see objects in the centre of the image to be in focus when looking over long distances. Everything else in the image appears fuzzy. Ironically, while dogs are not able to see in as fine detail as humans, dogs can see things over greater distances - especially if the object is moving. “A test of 14 police dogs found that dogs could recognise a moving object almost half a mile (900 metres) away… but only 585m if it was stationary (ref 7) DOGS FLICKER FUSION FREQUENCY 2 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Salukis are a working dog ,most coursing bred crosses are just that coursing dogs so the stories can be slanted either way. What I will say is in PreBan days a good dog would be put to any quarry on any land in any weather and will not only run carefully selected opponents .. Long range slips make for a better test of a dog .My method is if the dog sees it then it gets slipped on if its in the same County. . Matches because they were based on kills the game plans were different but for days out they should be fair play all round for hare and dog. As has been said the hare doesnt get into gear until the dog is bearing down on it so wizz bangers need shorter slips other wise they would be blowiing before they get on terms from a long slip. Some dogs have pace and wind but the clever coursing dogs know when to go up and down the gears and when to press when to hold back and when to strike you would see lots of the fast dogs over run and often struggle to get back on terms if they miss the first strike but it was all part of a day out so it was enjoyed i what ever happened. A lot of the bad habits can be directly attributed to the introduction of the Hunting with Dogs ActI've seen non coursing bred Lurchers catch Hares from a fair distance away when out for a mooch. You would have i ve seen the longest slips for salukis that most dogs wouldnt even attempt tp get on terms, its not a contest between breeds of dog, its dog against hare on any particular day no matter want slant people want to put on itNot just me, the people I've been out with. Most dogs with anything about them would attempt to get on terms. I know different about dogs trying to get on terms I have been out with lads on here who couldnt even see what I had slipped on. I rely on my dogs sight they pull they go lads realise after the ground is made that they are on.Im talking big slips not a couple of hundred yards.Well seeing as though dogs can't see as good as humans you must have some canines. What utter Bollocks,my old shepherd lurcher could catch stuff in the dark I couldn't see, same as years ago poachers didn't have lamps that advertised they were there,dogs caught in the dark and by moonlight as if it was small they retrieved to hand be it a hare ,rabbit or the farmers chicken. Since when has hunting in the dark the same as daytime hunting..... Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 A dog can detect motion at 800/900 metres can you? Dogs cannot see at a distance as good as humans, do you disagree with that? See above post Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I suppose you dispute scientific fact Dog Fox DOGS MOTION DETECTION AND LONG DISTANCE VISION Dogs have much better motion detection than humans, due to the number of rods in the centre of the back of their eye. This means that in low light conditions (such as hunting at night) dogs can both see in low light conditions as well as detect the smallest of movement from prey. While they will not be able to detect camouflaged animals as well as humans (dues to our higher colour range detection) they can easily detect the slightest animal movement. The previous segment stated that dogs have lower visual accurity than humans and less depth of field (ability to judge distance). And it is the large pupils (designed to let in more light for night vision), that causes dogs to only see objects in the centre of the image to be in focus when looking over long distances. Everything else in the image appears fuzzy. Ironically, while dogs are not able to see in as fine detail as humans, dogs can see things over greater distances - especially if the object is moving. “A test of 14 police dogs found that dogs could recognise a moving object almost half a mile (900 metres) away… but only 585m if it was stationary (ref 7) DOGS FLICKER FUSION FREQUENCY Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 DOGS MOTION DETECTION AND LONG DISTANCE VISION Dogs have much better motion detection than humans, due to the number of rods in the centre of the back of their eye. This means that in low light conditions (such as hunting at night) dogs can both see in low light conditions as well as detect the smallest of movement from prey. While they will not be able to detect camouflaged animals as well as humans (dues to our higher colour range detection) they can easily detect the slightest animal movement. The previous segment stated that dogs have lower visual accurity than humans and less depth of field (ability to judge distance). And it is the large pupils (designed to let in more light for night vision), that causes dogs to only see objects in the centre of the image to be in focus when looking over long distances. Everything else in the image appears fuzzy. Ironically, while dogs are not able to see in as fine detail as humans, dogs can see things over greater distances - especially if the object is moving. A test of 14 police dogs found that dogs could recognise a moving object almost half a mile (900 metres) away but only 585m if it was stationary (ref 7) DOGS FLICKER FUSION FREQUENCY So humans have better long distance sight on stationary targets and dogs have better long distance sight on moving targets...... You're forgetting one major thing though. Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Dont start trying to fudge dogs can see Further and focused on a moving object as I said you are arguing without facts to back up your theories you said dogs cant see as far as humans I was talking running dogs you stated that humans see better then dogs you were wrong end off. a dog sighting game on land in hunting coursing has better sight, hence sight hounds sight and motion detection is more focused over distance in the dog. Edited January 7, 2017 by desertbred Quote Link to post
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