thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Not that hard to answer, some dogs can stay for 1 minute some can stay for 10 minutes plus, the top staying dogs will run the very best of winter hares into the ground if they have got the land to do it and the hare decides to take the dog on instead of heading for nearest cover or hole 3 Quote Link to post
thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I think the longest run ever caught on tape was 12 minutes, dog and hare was at walking pace at the end, that's some war 2 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I think the longest run ever caught on tape was 12 minutes, dog and hare was at walking pace at the end, that's some war Which came out on top in the end? Quote Link to post
cold pint 330 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Agree with fensarefar and just a view of my own and a little depth into thought and - I think when you get your well conditioned dog behind a winter monster and both animals have both stamina and heart in their favour I think the outcome of this will end up in the dogs favour as the superior animal. Not down to size, speed, ok they will aid the dog in the task but ,,, it's pretty Simple, a well educated coursing dog has a lot more brain then a hare, Fact,,and I think this is where it pivots as the hare has a great will to survive and is in flight mode he will jink and jive with all its might to shake the beast off he's back but the dog reads this, the saluki will come out on top. Thus being the more superior animal. Upmost respect for hares and am not bias in any way, saluki will win, My view,,, 1 Quote Link to post
thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I think the longest run ever caught on tape was 12 minutes, dog and hare was at walking pace at the end, that's some warWhich came out on top in the end? the dog on top of the hare 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I think the longest run ever caught on tape was 12 minutes, dog and hare was at walking pace at the end, that's some warWhich came out on top in the end? the dog on top of the hare There we have it, the best dog beats the best Hare..... Quote Link to post
thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 To be fair the hare has great natural stamina and I don't think many if any will of had the fitness regime a well conditioned dog that is ran regularly has had, for the hare to be as fit as the dog it will have to be coursed at least 6 times a week for a few months to be on par fitness wise with a dog that is getting run twice a week on 3 hares each time out, then the hare has got to sleep out in the middle of a wet frozen field in the wind eating a bit of old grass while the dog goes home to a mince dinner and a sun lounger with a heat lamp over it, got to admire the hare I'd say, if all the hares were as fit as the dogs it mite be a different story again and they be even harder again to catch regularly 5 Quote Link to post
two crows 3,342 Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 with regards to fare law it only realy maters with greyhounds to test speed one dog against another, a well bred coursing dog will go up steady, and hare wont change up till dog gets to him. Quote Link to post
green lurchers 16,530 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) with regards to fare law it only realy maters with greyhounds to test speed one dog against another, a well bred coursing dog will go up steady, and hare wont change up till dog gets to him. so fair law dosnt realy matter no more so just shoot the dog up the hares arse thats a test of a dog Edited January 6, 2017 by green lurchers Quote Link to post
thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 with regards to fare law it only realy maters with greyhounds to test speed one dog against another, a well bred coursing dog will go up steady, and hare wont change up till dog gets to him. so fair law dosnt realy matter no more so just shoot the dog up the hares arse thats a test of a dog doesn't really make much difference with a saluki bred dog as the hare is usually quicker off the mark anyway and a hundred yard slip isn't going to test the dog out much more anyway unless it's a whippet greyhound type that could run out of petrol , these are the ones that should give the hare a bit of law to let it get into its stride first Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Why was fair law given at forley calendar cups etc? Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Fair law is to allow a sporting chance to all involved as peoples estimation of distance varies greatly also the use of an independent slipper is a lot fairer, most lads running now in the comps try to tip the balance away from dog versus hare to who can get the most advantage. Pick of land,,allowing kick ups, , walking time out .Its become a win at all costs game now but with as many short cuts employed as possible. Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Why was fair law given at forley calendar cups etc? to give puss a chance .. that sais it all 1 Quote Link to post
thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Why was fair law given at forley calendar cups etc? to get the wizz bangers found out and test the dogs stamina more, some of the slips in the forley cups were 300 yards plus which would take it toll on inferior dogs but would make little difference to the top dogs 1 Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Why was fair law given at forley calendar cups etc?to get the wizz bangers found out and test the dogs stamina more, some of the slips in the forley cups were 300 yards plus which would take it toll on inferior dogs but would make little difference to the top dogs see I watch that and I see a real slip and real test of a dog, dogs that kill from that sort of slip consistently are the real deal, gives the poorer hares a chance and the real uns almost too much of a chance, but when the dog stood over a a kill from a run like that the pride you would feel would be genuine, kick one up and no matter how long the run someone will always be able to say great hare but it was a kick up lol Quote Link to post
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