arcticgun 4,548 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think if you put the law too one side and every type was ran off proper fair law slips the kills would drop dramatically, I do still however think that the saluki lurcher would come out on top in this country, but as said above its best that all types are tried and tested after all that's what they bred for Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Can anyone give the names of the pures that made a big impact over here in the coursing world? Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 these all made an impact breeding wise .cruise of shildon . kizzy of barkestead , john lennon .star girl stella artois .shady night , cream cracker and more i cant think of khann jihad 1 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Mars the bitch that luckys straws went to see her on vid and it looked a dangerous bitch Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) When coursing under rules was permitted e.g the Waterloo Cup the Dog of choice was the universally recognised fastest breed over a limited distance was the Greyhound, The coursing bred greyhounds were specifically bred lines to accomplish the job in hand. The numbersof hares actually caught and killed was minimal , giving fare law and putting safe havens into the place to give the hare a sporting chance to escape the hounds. Out on the land the shortcomings of the Greyhound were quickly identified and the attention for pot fillers and match winners quickly turned to the various hunting juckels Collie/greys, Deerhound /greys. Whippet/ greys, Alsation /greys even Poodle/greys each of these crosses bringing something to the table. The coursing fraternity come from all walks of life and the search was on for the ultimate running killing machine, some threw bucket loads of money at it other dedicated years and year sof their lives in persuit of the holy grail. Lots of blood sweat ant tears and money went into the endeavour also some wide boys tried the dodges to tip the balance in their favour especially in the matches performance enhancing additives, boot lace slips the kill to run ratio was improving its debatable about the quality of the runs and even if it was even still a sport. The turning point appears to come when the Saluki blood became available to a small number of the matching officianados first half first crosses then varying percentages to one side or the other tryingto find that perfect balance. Some stock men had the skills to consistantly turn out quality dogs whilst others tried and failed many many times to breed the tools for the job.People often say old school boys and dogs were better thats the million dollar question one thing I do know many of the old teams are still talked about some have been embelished by the lapse of time but many events witnessed so some things did actually happen and certainly the coursing lines were improving byleaps and bounds. Now with all the Media the ease of travel some legends are stil lborn but also a lot off fanny is bandied around.The Hunting Ban has caused discomfort to say the least and in my opinion it has attracted some undesirable traits into the sport if you can still call it a sport.the breeding seems to be regressing A lot of breeders in it for the money and glory , thousands have been spent on failures and £30 quid on champions thats the attraction in the game of coursing. Arguments can go on till the day of judgement as to what dog is the best what breeding is the benchmark the thing is that x breeding or breeding pures the breeding should enhance the quality and capability of the dogs and hopefully the participants go back to the sporting aspect that is the bred and butter of the Coursing and hunting game ATB have great seasons and stay safe. Edited January 2, 2017 by desertbred 6 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Mars the bitch that luckys straws went to see her on vid and it looked a dangerous bitch i dont think she had a litter did she? Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 these all made an impact breeding wise .cruise of shildon . kizzy of barkestead , john lennon .star girl stella artois .shady night , cream cracker and more i cant think of khann jihad Did any of these dogs have standout careers in the coursing world or were they only used for breeding purposes? Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 these all made an impact breeding wise .cruise of shildon . kizzy of barkestead , john lennon .star girl stella artois .shady night , cream cracker and more i cant think of khann jihad Did any of these dogs have standout careers in the coursing world or were they only used for breeding purposes? cant remember pal tepe gawra durak was a good runner .without these there wouldnt be the alot of the top longdogs today that can run puss. Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Used too improve what was here for the desired job here is another way too put it, in its own home its fine, that's the great thing a about dogs we can mix and match too strive too improve, a good un is a good un at the end of the day regardless of what label is fixed on it I have little doubt that if our best dogmen went over to the Middle East and began a breeding plan the Arabs would all be going to them for their dogs. why they can and do buy most of there lurchers salx,s from turkey /syria.the young rich arabs are more interested in the races today for big money 1 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Has anyone actually seen a pure Saluki run with a Greyhound on a hare? It would be very interesting watching them side by side. Quote Link to post
stone rose 353 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 we had a pure greyhound called misty and a pure saluki called soona they killed a few hares on mornings out runnin together both bitchs wer used for all quarry and both did there job very well misty was unbelevable as gh come would put a lot of lurchers to shame a total one off the saluki bitch was tried and tested the quickest i see run at that time the queens bank was a place if you no your cousing wer she knocked a few over every animal is different and imo you could never judge a dog running doubled up the greyhound did actully school a few of swoops pups like i said all dogs are different 2 Quote Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 That's the thing, I can bet a lot of greyhounds would surprise people if they were raised in the field. 1 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 we had a pure greyhound called misty and a pure saluki called soona they killed a few hares on mornings out runnin together both bitchs wer used for all quarry and both did there job very well misty was unbelevable as gh come would put a lot of lurchers to shame a total one off the saluki bitch was tried and tested the quickest i see run at that time the queens bank was a place if you no your cousing wer she knocked a few over every animal is different and imo you could never judge a dog running doubled up the greyhound did actully school a few of swoops pups like i said all dogs are different Was soona not Willies dog ? Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 That's the thing, I can bet a lot of greyhounds would surprise people if they were raised in the field. Yeah I agree there some of the first dogs I ever see run a hare were greyhound didn't mind the odd deer and fox either. But for me if I get a lurcher pup I want it to have a good chance of doing a few different things hares day or night big or small land few fox the odd deer or bit of ferreting it's hard enough to do this with a cross bred lurcher let alone a fast and furious greyhound. I had a feathered small saluki bitch here for a while would Run all day for aslong as it needed to I got it unbielivably fit me and a feller that's on here tom was out with it one day it was hitting the hares with its body bowling them over it just didn't have a mouth around it at all. Quote Link to post
stone rose 353 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 no db she was a bitch i had off a mate plenty lads see her run just a good allrounder i will say her mouth was not the best only [BANNED TEXT] it suited her but [BANNED TEXT] it did she was unbelievable 1 Quote Link to post
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