DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 That article is an interesting read that the bitchs at 3 year old were breeding better pups if it worked for him why not he could change things quickly if it wasnt clicking without losing a decade before you release its not what you want. For example someone who likes to work a bitch for at least 4 full seasons before breeding would leave the bitch 6 year old having the pups and 8 when her first litter are in their first season then if it fails and you breed another litter its a decade before you release that the next litter from a different bitch has reached a standard. Unless of course you have multiple breedings going on at the same time which takes a lot of kennel space. It's all good and well testing your dogs over many seasons before deciding to breed her, works well on the Internet but doesn't always happen in the real game. What if you lose your only bitch on a dig before you've bred her? Game over...... 3 Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Study the article ,a lot to be learnt . Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Most people do too much studying on books instead of going out and finding out for themselves. 1 Link to post
jiggy 3,209 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Like he said his next young bitch too breed had 40 digs in 1st season allthough never certain he,d have a fair idea how good she was and how she worked some dogs dont get 40 digs in their lives and if thats spread over 4 seaons is it a better dog? 2 Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 That article is an interesting read that the bitchs at 3 year old were breeding better pups if it worked for him why not he could change things quickly if it wasnt clicking without losing a decade before you release its not what you want. For example someone who likes to work a bitch for at least 4 full seasons before breeding would leave the bitch 6 year old having the pups and 8 when her first litter are in their first season then if it fails and you breed another litter its a decade before you release that the next litter from a different bitch has reached a standard. Unless of course you have multiple breedings going on at the same time which takes a lot of kennel space. It's all good and well testing your dogs over many seasons before deciding to breed her, works well on the Internet but doesn't always happen in the real game. What if you lose your only bitch on a dig before you've bred her? Game over...... Fate Go and get another from the same line and always have a few coming through 1 Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 That article is an interesting read that the bitchs at 3 year old were breeding better pups if it worked for him why not he could change things quickly if it wasnt clicking without losing a decade before you release its not what you want. For example someone who likes to work a bitch for at least 4 full seasons before breeding would leave the bitch 6 year old having the pups and 8 when her first litter are in their first season then if it fails and you breed another litter its a decade before you release that the next litter from a different bitch has reached a standard. Unless of course you have multiple breedings going on at the same time which takes a lot of kennel space.It's all good and well testing your dogs over many seasons before deciding to breed her, works well on the Internet but doesn't always happen in the real game.What if you lose your only bitch on a dig before you've bred her? Game over...... FateGo and get another from the same line and always have a few coming through Not so easy, a pal of mine who's got the same line isn't in work and just manages to get by. He has a nice bitch from the same lines and bred her, I told him to wait till she's got a few seasons under her belt but he wasn't having it. Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I'd sooner wait and know (or think) I'd done it right, the flip side to that theory is you'd soon fill your yard with shit. You'd then spend the next decade finding out where it all went wrong, I don't think there's a right or wrong, it's down to judgement and luck. 3 Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I'd sooner wait and know (or think) I'd done it right, the flip side to that theory is you'd soon fill your yard with shit. You'd then spend the next decade finding out where it all went wrong, I don't think there's a right or wrong, it's down to judgement and luck. Don't get me wrong the dog has done well and showed good signs but a little soon in an ideal world, he's of the thought that the blood is there and they will turn out handy dogs. Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I thought we were talking theoretically, like I say, it's your yard and your call, good luck Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I thought we were talking theoretically, like I say, it's your yard and your call, good luck Not my yard pal, just a pal who's got a bitch from the line. Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Having spoken to Gordan at length about his plans in the past ,the short fix method is only used to produce dogs once the line is tested previous .Keeping a line ,you know yourself what will be the outcome of a mating from anything in your yard and Gordan been at it longer than me i know .To anyone starting a line ,test ,test is a must but once the line is pure ,virtually anything goes .He did say he was at the end of it several years back and reading between the lines they had gotten very hard hence the new blood which is now fixed i believe . 1 Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Most people do too much studying on books instead of going out and finding out for themselves. Some knowledge will save a man 10 years and is worth listening to and digesting .A man can waste a lifetime breeding to a plan only to go full circle with nothing to show if that plan wasnt right . Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I'd sooner wait and know (or think) I'd done it right, the flip side to that theory is you'd soon fill your yard with shit. You'd then spend the next decade finding out where it all went wrong, I don't think there's a right or wrong, it's down to judgement and luck. Don't get me wrong the dog has done well and showed good signs but a little soon in an ideal world, he's of the thought that the blood is there and they will turn out handy dogs. Ask Mr Nuttall .hes the man with your dream terriers lol. Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 I'd sooner wait and know (or think) I'd done it right, the flip side to that theory is you'd soon fill your yard with shit. You'd then spend the next decade finding out where it all went wrong, I don't think there's a right or wrong, it's down to judgement and luck.Don't get me wrong the dog has done well and showed good signs but a little soon in an ideal world, he's of the thought that the blood is there and they will turn out handy dogs. Ask Mr Nuttall .hes the man with your dream terriers lol. If I had to go and ask Mr Nuttall then I shouldn't own these dogs.... Link to post
DogFox123 1,379 Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Most people do too much studying on books instead of going out and finding out for themselves. Some knowledge will save a man 10 years and is worth listening to and digesting .A man can waste a lifetime breeding to a plan only to go full circle with nothing to show if that plan wasnt right . That just tells me the man shouldn't have been breeding in the first place. Link to post
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