ands 550 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Might walking away from the dog rather than towards it work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,552 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Let him trail a light line around for a few weeks with out holding it and make sure its in reach when you want to call him in so you can give it a tug to get him moving. Could all ways reward as well I guess if you want. Then pop the normal lead on but leave the line attached then take lead off after a bit and repeat. I found with mine if you give him the chance to ignore you once or he gets away with some thing once he won't forget it and it sets you right back ah also call him or a whistle when you turn to just change direction and again give the line a tug so he turns I shouldn't comment on these training threads as I have one of the most unruly at times hounds going lol Edited September 20, 2016 by terryd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
planete 120 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Would he chase a ball? One of my dogs is not food orientated but show him a ball when he is thinking of bogging off and he will come as he knows I will throw the ball for him to chase, that is his reward for coming back. And if he brings it back he knows I will throw it again. It took me six months to get him keen enough to have this effect but it was worth it. Of course it will not work if he has already started after something. I am working on the same thing with two rescues as well, one is nearly there but the coursing bred one is still finding a lot of things more interesting than me I am afraid. Long line and harness for now unless we are in a well-fenced place or she would bring no end of trouble on herself and on me. And it is teaching her she cannot get her own way all the time hopefully. Be patient with your Dad's dog. Whatever method you use, changing a dog's habits and mind set can be an uphill struggle and sometimes clever management of the issues is all we can do with some of these badly started dogs. (Off to go and practice the 'stop'. I have not done it for too long. Thanks for the reminder!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casso 1,261 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 In its most basic form the coming to you should be a way of attaining a reward , build a chain of behavior The dog on line by your side , tel it to "Wait" throw out a piece of its dinner a few metres away , Put your hand out for a "Come " Get the connection , the dog must touch the hand Give that a "yes" yes been the reward is imminent sound , and let the dog get reward , If you chain the come with the reward , you'll be rewiring the behavior Give "Yes " and reward for any good behavior and your more likely to see it again Don't give much freedom until you start seeing social behavior 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squeamish5 309 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Let him trail a light line around for a few weeks with out holding it and make sure its in reach when you want to call him in so you can give it a tug to get him moving. Could all ways reward as well I guess if you want. Then pop the normal lead on but leave the line attached then take lead off after a bit and repeat. I found with mine if you give him the chance to ignore you once or he gets away with some thing once he won't forget it and it sets you right back ah also call him or a whistle when you turn to just change direction and again give the line a tug so he turns I shouldn't comment on these training threads as I have one of the most unruly at times hounds going lol Lol. Ironically, after posting on here, it all went to absolute custard yesterday morning. The dog wouldn't come back to me for about 10 minutes. First time it's happened. It was extremely dispiriting. That'll learn me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,552 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Let him trail a light line around for a few weeks with out holding it and make sure its in reach when you want to call him in so you can give it a tug to get him moving. Could all ways reward as well I guess if you want. Then pop the normal lead on but leave the line attached then take lead off after a bit and repeat. I found with mine if you give him the chance to ignore you once or he gets away with some thing once he won't forget it and it sets you right back ah also call him or a whistle when you turn to just change direction and again give the line a tug so he turns I shouldn't comment on these training threads as I have one of the most unruly at times hounds going lol Lol. Ironically, after posting on here, it all went to absolute custard yesterday morning. The dog wouldn't come back to me for about 10 minutes. First time it's happened. It was extremely dispiriting. That'll learn me. I know all about absolute custard keep at it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slip lead 862 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Is he intreasted with toys, if so start playing tug in doors, get him excited, I find squeaky toys get there attention best. Then when in the field don't call him, just start squeaking toy and drop to your knees, it's best for some to do this where no one can see you, because sometimes you have to act like a right clown to get a response.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkers 10 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I think once a dog has picked up those traits its always going to have them. thers always going to be a time you have to raise you voice to a dog and when you do its back to square one hope I'm wrong but. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,685 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Anybody have any ideas about a dog that isn't doing it fear based but simply gets a rush off being a cnut?The dog was bred to run and run hard, not to ponce about with a rollerskate clad mincer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,685 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Anybody have any ideas about a dog that isn't doing it fear based but simply gets a rush off being a cnut?The dog was bred to run and run hard, not to ponce about with a rollerskate clad mincer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,685 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Anybody have any ideas about a dog that isn't doing it fear based but simply gets a rush off being a cnut?The dog was bred to run and run hard, not to ponce about with a rollerskate clad mincer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,193 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 He gets ran hard enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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