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Within probably the next 80 years the vast majority of people on this forum will have died, this is a fact no-one can escape the end.

is it so hard to even accept the possibility that there is a God or creator? We will all know for sure soon though I suppose.

if you do not believe in a creator then by my understanding the vast majority believe there can only be two explanations either we come from some alien species and were planted here or we are just a consequence of a primordial soup born out of rocks and the sea as some random event. Not only did that random event survive and produce millions of species, humans, birds, insects, fish etc but it is estimated that there is less than 1 chance in 10 to the 40,000 power that life in a single cell organism could have originated by random. Im no maths expert but I understand 10 to the 40,000 power is a 1 with 40,000 zeros after it. :icon_eek:

 

 

I find that anyone who can honestly say hand on heart that they don't be live in a creator yet can accept the random odds of the aforementioned alternatives as fact very strange.

 

Ive said it once and i will say it again you need to find your own path and follow it. Do not be swayed by ignorant people who seek to ridicule, be patient with people who are seeking genuine answers.

 

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So if there are odds and you accept them then you accept it could happen? So then what are the odds of it not happening over an infinite amount of time with the unimaginable energy in the universe around the trillions and trillions of stars?

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Not for me mate,,just a story to keep folk in line by rulers in older days...   My old gran who was a church goer,,,,,she would say the bible got it wrong,,,and God and the devil were just spelling

I've never believed in a God . My parents didn't either . I think that present day science rtf can prove that most of the bible didn't happen or would have been impossible. Moses parting the sea etc

Cain married his sister and thus God created......Norfolk !

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What is the method mate, of determining 42 billion years?

 

Is it the fossil dates the layer of rock, or the layer of rock days fossil/ or rock, how do they determine billions of years, chances are next to nothing as seemed pointed out?

I think you missed the joke pal :laugh:

 

But seeing as we're talking about methods of determining the age of the Earth, how did you determine it's only 6,000 years old?

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We do have a creator, the Big Bang. It's hard to get your head around but it seems more plausible than a big man sat in space watching over us. A man who we can't see despite reaching the edge of our Solar System, a man who allows suffering beyond belief to all creatures on earth...

What would make you think God is a, a man.....b, of this world......or c,plays by our rules ?

 

In which case why should he give us an explannation.

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What is the method mate, of determining 42 billion years?

 

Is it the fossil dates the layer of rock, or the layer of rock days fossil/ or rock, how do they determine billions of years, chances are next to nothing as seemed pointed out?

I think you missed the joke pal :laugh:

 

But seeing as we're talking about methods of determining the age of the Earth, how did you determine it's only 6,000 years old?

By written literature, artefacts, settlements, etc

 

Stuff we can test an observe.

 

The dating of the rocks is definitely not reliable, it start of with the presupposition of constants, we all know that they can't guaranteed the constant rate of decay blah blah.

 

Even the evoloutionist websites admit it " flawed an " anomalies" it's not very reliable is it?

 

I forgot another natural method testable an observable, dendrochronology, there's a free dates in ireland to be 7200 years old?

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We do have a creator, the Big Bang. It's hard to get your head around but it seems more plausible than a big man sat in space watching over us. A man who we can't see despite reaching the edge of our Solar System, a man who allows suffering beyond belief to all creatures on earth...

God is not a flesh an blood , he is a spirit.

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No takers then, carbon dating is clean fecked, lol it relies on the assumption that carbon 14 in the atmosphere is a constant, an everyone knows this is a very very big assumption, actually it's bollox lol.

 

So the dating method is is not got for purpose, anyone care to explain?

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No takers then, carbon dating is clean fecked, lol it relies on the assumption that carbon 14 in the atmosphere is a constant, an everyone knows this is a very very big assumption, actually it's bollox lol.

 

So the dating method is is not got for purpose, anyone care to explain?

Old a minute, you were bigging it up earlier when it suited your agenda hahaha

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How come he never speaks to us then to put us on track when we falter?

I think "he" does if you care to listen...... But if you are waiting for an email with it all in black and white then you could be on to a loser ! Lol

 

But saying that, it is in black and white because is all there in the bible ........it just takes some considering and thinking about.

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How come he never speaks to us then to put us on track when we falter?

I think "he" does if you care to listen...... But if you are waiting for an email with it all in black and white then you could be on to a loser ! Lol

 

But saying that, it is in black and white because is all there in the bible ........it just takes some considering and thinking about.

Don't you think now seeing as times have changed massively he ought to bring a new edition out? It's massively outdated... a

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They have found settlments that were buried under the sea at the end of the last ice age, that be roughly 10,000 years old and that's next to the shore as it is now... Imagine what's further out in deeper water ;) Its amazing that your resolve still remains francie, it's a shame by the time you realise it's all bollocks it'll be too late for you ?

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They have found settlments that were buried under the sea at the end of the last ice age, that be roughly 10,000 years old and that's next to the shore as it is now... Imagine what's further out in deeper water ;) Its amazing that your resolve still remains francie, it's a shame by the time you realise it's all bollocks it'll be too late for you ?

Hi mate then discoveries back the bible up, there was plenty of land before the floor came, an buried the underwater settlements, no problem here.

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How come he never speaks to us then to put us on track when we falter?

I think "he" does if you care to listen...... But if you are waiting for an email with it all in black and white then you could be on to a loser ! Lol

 

But saying that, it is in black and white because is all there in the bible ........it just takes some considering and thinking about.

Don't you think now seeing as times have changed massively he ought to bring a new edition out? It's massively outdated... a

If never backed carbon dating mate, an time an society might change, God will not.

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How come he never speaks to us then to put us on track when we falter?

I think "he" does if you care to listen...... But if you are waiting for an email with it all in black and white then you could be on to a loser ! Lol

But saying that, it is in black and white because is all there in the bible ........it just takes some considering and thinking about.

Don't you think now seeing as times have changed massively he ought to bring a new edition out? It's massively outdated... a

The thing is mate, it's not outdated...... IMHO it's more relevant and needed than it has ever been.

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So those of you who think organic matter can't come from "rocks" as you put it then what do you think of fossils I.e organic matter that's turned to rocks or oil which is organic matter that's turned to inorganic "soup" why can it happen one way but it's so unimaginable for it to be reversed? What goes up must come down and all that.

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