JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Within probably the next years the vast majority of people on this forum will have died, this is a fact no-one can escape the end. is it so hard to even accept the possibility that there is a God or creator? We will all know for sure soon though I suppose. if you do not believe in a creator then by my understanding the vast majority believe there can only be two explanations either we come from some alien species and were planted here or we are just a consequence of a primordial soup born out of rocks and the sea as some random event. Not only did that random event survive and produce millions of species, humans, birds, insects, fish etc but it is estimated that there is less than 1 chance in 10 to the 40,000 power that life in a single cell organism could have originated by random. Im no maths expert but I understand 10 to the 40,000 power is a 1 with 40,000 zeros after it. I find that anyone who can honestly say hand on heart that they don't be live in a creator yet can accept the random odds of the aforementioned alternatives as fact very strange. Ive said it once and i will say it again you need to find your own path and follow it. Do not be swayed by ignorant people who seek to ridicule, be patient with people who are seeking genuine answers. ATB So if there are odds and you accept them then you accept it could happen? So then what are the odds of it not happening over an infinite amount of time with the unimaginable energy in the universe around the trillions and trillions of stars? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 What is the method mate, of determining 42 billion years? Is it the fossil dates the layer of rock, or the layer of rock days fossil/ or rock, how do they determine billions of years, chances are next to nothing as seemed pointed out? I think you missed the joke pal But seeing as we're talking about methods of determining the age of the Earth, how did you determine it's only 6,000 years old? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) We do have a creator, the Big Bang. It's hard to get your head around but it seems more plausible than a big man sat in space watching over us. A man who we can't see despite reaching the edge of our Solar System, a man who allows suffering beyond belief to all creatures on earth... What would make you think God is a, a man.....b, of this world......or c,plays by our rules ? In which case why should he give us an explannation. Edited October 1, 2016 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) What is the method mate, of determining 42 billion years? Is it the fossil dates the layer of rock, or the layer of rock days fossil/ or rock, how do they determine billions of years, chances are next to nothing as seemed pointed out? I think you missed the joke pal But seeing as we're talking about methods of determining the age of the Earth, how did you determine it's only 6,000 years old? By written literature, artefacts, settlements, etc Stuff we can test an observe. The dating of the rocks is definitely not reliable, it start of with the presupposition of constants, we all know that they can't guaranteed the constant rate of decay blah blah. Even the evoloutionist websites admit it " flawed an " anomalies" it's not very reliable is it? I forgot another natural method testable an observable, dendrochronology, there's a free dates in ireland to be 7200 years old? Edited October 1, 2016 by Francie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 We do have a creator, the Big Bang. It's hard to get your head around but it seems more plausible than a big man sat in space watching over us. A man who we can't see despite reaching the edge of our Solar System, a man who allows suffering beyond belief to all creatures on earth... God is not a flesh an blood , he is a spirit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 How come he never speaks to us then to put us on track when we falter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 No takers then, carbon dating is clean fecked, lol it relies on the assumption that carbon 14 in the atmosphere is a constant, an everyone knows this is a very very big assumption, actually it's bollox lol. So the dating method is is not got for purpose, anyone care to explain? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 No takers then, carbon dating is clean fecked, lol it relies on the assumption that carbon 14 in the atmosphere is a constant, an everyone knows this is a very very big assumption, actually it's bollox lol. So the dating method is is not got for purpose, anyone care to explain? Old a minute, you were bigging it up earlier when it suited your agenda hahaha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,787 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) How come he never speaks to us then to put us on track when we falter?I think "he" does if you care to listen...... But if you are waiting for an email with it all in black and white then you could be on to a loser ! Lol But saying that, it is in black and white because is all there in the bible ........it just takes some considering and thinking about. Edited October 1, 2016 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 How come he never speaks to us then to put us on track when we falter?I think "he" does if you care to listen...... But if you are waiting for an email with it all in black and white then you could be on to a loser ! Lol But saying that, it is in black and white because is all there in the bible ........it just takes some considering and thinking about. Don't you think now seeing as times have changed massively he ought to bring a new edition out? It's massively outdated... a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,918 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 They have found settlments that were buried under the sea at the end of the last ice age, that be roughly 10,000 years old and that's next to the shore as it is now... Imagine what's further out in deeper water Its amazing that your resolve still remains francie, it's a shame by the time you realise it's all bollocks it'll be too late for you ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 They have found settlments that were buried under the sea at the end of the last ice age, that be roughly 10,000 years old and that's next to the shore as it is now... Imagine what's further out in deeper water Its amazing that your resolve still remains francie, it's a shame by the time you realise it's all bollocks it'll be too late for you ? Hi mate then discoveries back the bible up, there was plenty of land before the floor came, an buried the underwater settlements, no problem here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 How come he never speaks to us then to put us on track when we falter?I think "he" does if you care to listen...... But if you are waiting for an email with it all in black and white then you could be on to a loser ! Lol But saying that, it is in black and white because is all there in the bible ........it just takes some considering and thinking about. Don't you think now seeing as times have changed massively he ought to bring a new edition out? It's massively outdated... a If never backed carbon dating mate, an time an society might change, God will not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,787 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 How come he never speaks to us then to put us on track when we falter?I think "he" does if you care to listen...... But if you are waiting for an email with it all in black and white then you could be on to a loser ! LolBut saying that, it is in black and white because is all there in the bible ........it just takes some considering and thinking about. Don't you think now seeing as times have changed massively he ought to bring a new edition out? It's massively outdated... a The thing is mate, it's not outdated...... IMHO it's more relevant and needed than it has ever been. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 So those of you who think organic matter can't come from "rocks" as you put it then what do you think of fossils I.e organic matter that's turned to rocks or oil which is organic matter that's turned to inorganic "soup" why can it happen one way but it's so unimaginable for it to be reversed? What goes up must come down and all that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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