Francie 6,368 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 "That doesn't fit in with my beliefs so I'll just dismiss it with no evidence to back up my position" Yep, I'm done with this discussion now. You're incapable of discussing these things in good faith pal. It doesn't fit in because it's flawed timeline, it's not concrete how long ago they lived, calm down dear, might one up lolIt's only flawed if you think carbon dating etc is some big conspiracy which you obviously do because it goes against your very narrow belief system. Where's your concrete evidence the Earth is only 6,000 years old? How have I got a narrow belief system, could you explain that, I could easily say the same for you, I believe God did it, you believe it came about by itself, so you're an every ones else's is just as narrow law.I believe we can't know for sure how things came about but the weight of evidence is against the young earth creationist theory, I'm happy to change my opinion if new evidence comes to light. I'm not personally invested in the discussion at all unlike folk like you who would have their whole belief system challenged if their theory to how things came about was proved wrong. I can't say for certain either, an sure your belief system would be challenged also if new evidence came to light, would it not? Let me here the evidence stacked against young earth, but here look, if folk don't want to hear this topic, I'm stop replying, no bother, the usual suspects might start saying I'm this that an the other like last time, cause they didn't like what they heard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I watched a thing about it on tv. Birds are closely related to them. Only joining in a debate thats all. Or aent i allowed to cz it goes against your views. I could say the same about your "vocal" views against against evolution. However i dont as its only a debat/discussion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 And why are there no cave drawings with humans and dinosaurs? You'd think a 6 ton T-Rex would be worth scribbling on the kitchen wall like all the other fauna they encountered was They are mate, lots, an man a dinos footprints together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I watched a thing about it on tv. Birds are closely related to them. Only joining in a debate thats all. Or aent i allowed to cz it goes against your views. I could say the same about your "vocal" views against against evolution. However i dont as its only a debat/discussion. Mate this happens everytime, I'm just defending my beleif, I don't want to call out with anyone, knock yourself or man, post away Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Birds are the closest thing today to dinosaurs. I do not have "bad feelings" towards god. Cz i dont believe in it. For someone who doesn't beleive, your being very vocal about it. Explain to me how birds are closet thing to dinosaurs, when dinosaurs are reptiles, an reptiles are still here? Sure crocs haven't changed in 400,000000 years, so they say, there a dinosaur, a birds are not reptile. Reptiles are cold blooded, dinosaurs weren't I don't think. Were does modern bacteria and viruses fit in with creationism? Has god made them recently and chucked them in without saying anything? What is viruses mutating and jumping species if not evolution? Yeah mate dinos were cold blooded also. Mutation is the loss of information, not gaining, so that can't be evolution. Viruses an bacteria are always here mate. Feck it in done for a wile, all above jmo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Thats fine mate just dont say im being vocal then being just as vocal yourself. That dont make any sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 "That doesn't fit in with my beliefs so I'll just dismiss it with no evidence to back up my position" Yep, I'm done with this discussion now. You're incapable of discussing these things in good faith pal. It doesn't fit in because it's flawed timeline, it's not concrete how long ago they lived, calm down dear, might one up lolIt's only flawed if you think carbon dating etc is some big conspiracy which you obviously do because it goes against your very narrow belief system. Where's your concrete evidence the Earth is only 6,000 years old? How have I got a narrow belief system, could you explain that, I could easily say the same for you, I believe God did it, you believe it came about by itself, so you're an every ones else's is just as narrow law.I believe we can't know for sure how things came about but the weight of evidence is against the young earth creationist theory, I'm happy to change my opinion if new evidence comes to light. I'm not personally invested in the discussion at all unlike folk like you who would have their whole belief system challenged if their theory to how things came about was proved wrong.I can't say for certain either, an sure your belief system would be challenged also if new evidence came to light, would it not? Let me here the evidence stacked against young earth, but here look, if folk don't want to hear this topic, I'm stop replying, no bother, the usual suspects might start saying I'm this that an the other like last time, cause they didn't like what they heard. My "belief system" if you can call it that is based on credible scientific evidence so if new evidence came to light proving young earth creationism was in fact the correct origin theory then that would just be a continuation of my evidence based "belief system" You're the one that is trying to find evidence to prove a conclusion you've already come to and don't want challenged, I look at the evidence available then come to a conclusion based on it. That's the difference between someone with an open mind wanting real answers and someone just looking to twist facts to prove their already strongly held beliefs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 "That doesn't fit in with my beliefs so I'll just dismiss it with no evidence to back up my position" Yep, I'm done with this discussion now. You're incapable of discussing these things in good faith pal. It doesn't fit in because it's flawed timeline, it's not concrete how long ago they lived, calm down dear, might one up lolIt's only flawed if you think carbon dating etc is some big conspiracy which you obviously do because it goes against your very narrow belief system. Where's your concrete evidence the Earth is only 6,000 years old? How have I got a narrow belief system, could you explain that, I could easily say the same for you, I believe God did it, you believe it came about by itself, so you're an every ones else's is just as narrow law.I believe we can't know for sure how things came about but the weight of evidence is against the young earth creationist theory, I'm happy to change my opinion if new evidence comes to light. I'm not personally invested in the discussion at all unlike folk like you who would have their whole belief system challenged if their theory to how things came about was proved wrong.I can't say for certain either, an sure your belief system would be challenged also if new evidence came to light, would it not? Let me here the evidence stacked against young earth, but here look, if folk don't want to hear this topic, I'm stop replying, no bother, the usual suspects might start saying I'm this that an the other like last time, cause they didn't like what they heard. My "belief system" if you can call it that is based on credible scientific evidence so if new evidence came to light proving young earth creationism was in fact the correct origin theory then that would just be a continuation of my evidence based "belief system" You're the one that is trying to find evidence to prove a conclusion you've already come to and don't want challenged, I look at the evidence available then come to a conclusion based on it. That's the difference between someone with an open mind wanting real answers and someone just looking to twist facts to prove their already strongly held beliefs Eh, what have I twisted to suit me, again I nothing to prove, as I said before it's individual choice what they want to beleive, I'm admit I enjoy debating this topic, we're just looking at same evidence an coming to different conclusions, nothing wrong in that. But I would like to hear your science based view, if you want to share, cause that's what I'm basing mine on, up to you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) I can't say for certain either,an sure your belief system would be challenged also if new evidence came to light, would it not? Let me here the evidence stacked against young earth, but here look, if folk don't want to hear this topic, I'm stop replying, no bother, the usual suspects might start saying I'm this that an the other like last time, cause they didn't like what they heard. I thought you were a Christian fundamentalist that believes the Bible is the literal infallible word of God? So surely you do know for certain how life came into existence, it tells you in the Bible doesn't it? So you're either being disingenuous there trying to come across as more open minded than you are or you're starting to doubt the word of God, which is it? Edited September 19, 2016 by BGD 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Thats fine mate just dont say im being vocal then being just as vocal yourself. That dont make any sense. Ok mate, I apologise no harm done Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I can't say for certain either,an sure your belief system would be challenged also if new evidence came to light, would it not? Let me here the evidence stacked against young earth, but here look, if folk don't want to hear this topic, I'm stop replying, no bother, the usual suspects might start saying I'm this that an the other like last time, cause they didn't like what they heard. I thought you were a Christian fundamentalist that believes the Bible is the literal infallible word of God? So surely you do know for certain how life came into existence, it tells you in the Bible doesn't it? So you're either being disingenuous there trying to come across as more open minded than you are or you're starting to doubt the word of God, which is it? Yeah I'm a Christian who believes the bible, but I'm open minded an listen to whatever people had to say. Look just because I'm set in e voloution, doesn't mean I won't listen, an it doesn't mean I'm not open minded about a range of other things, so please stop trying to corner me with intent. I could sit here an say corbyns a scumbag, an youl defend him, no matter what he does, is that open minded, no. So cheer up, spark one, an don't throw stones in glass houses lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I can't say for certain either,an sure your belief system would be challenged also if new evidence came to light, would it not? Let me here the evidence stacked against young earth, but here look, if folk don't want to hear this topic, I'm stop replying, no bother, the usual suspects might start saying I'm this that an the other like last time, cause they didn't like what they heard. I thought you were a Christian fundamentalist that believes the Bible is the literal infallible word of God? So surely you do know for certain how life came into existence, it tells you in the Bible doesn't it? So you're either being disingenuous there trying to come across as more open minded than you are or you're starting to doubt the word of God, which is it? Yeah I'm a Christian who believes the bible, but I'm open minded an listen to whatever people had to say. Look just because I'm set in e voloution, doesn't mean I won't listen, an it doesn't mean I'm not open minded about a range of other things, so please stop trying to corner me with intent. I could sit here an say corbyns a scumbag, an youl defend him, no matter what he does, is that open minded, no. So cheer up, spark one, an don't throw stones in glass houses lol So you're saying you would stop believing in God if the right evidence was presented to you? Sounds like your faith isn't too strong pal! That's a ridiculous comparison, you're starting to take this debate awfully personally pal I think you're the one that needs to cheer up and spark one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 This topic cracks me up these days, thl massive are not experts in the bible lol Whoever on this topic says science disproves the bible, id like to see it, because morder acadamiea cannot do this, so I doubt anyone on here can. But its everyones choice what they beleive, but I find it funny people scoff at the bible but cant disprove it in anyway. Belief in anything greater than your own perception of your surroundings is the mark of a week minded person ,seeking guidance where he himself is not strong enough to take on and face fears of human failings . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I can't say for certain either,an sure your belief system would be challenged also if new evidence came to light, would it not? Let me here the evidence stacked against young earth, but here look, if folk don't want to hear this topic, I'm stop replying, no bother, the usual suspects might start saying I'm this that an the other like last time, cause they didn't like what they heard. I thought you were a Christian fundamentalist that believes the Bible is the literal infallible word of God? So surely you do know for certain how life came into existence, it tells you in the Bible doesn't it? So you're either being disingenuous there trying to come across as more open minded than you are or you're starting to doubt the word of God, which is it? Yeah I'm a Christian who believes the bible, but I'm open minded an listen to whatever people had to say. Look just because I'm set in e voloution, doesn't mean I won't listen, an it doesn't mean I'm not open minded about a range of other things, so please stop trying to corner me with intent. I could sit here an say corbyns a scumbag, an youl defend him, no matter what he does, is that open minded, no. So cheer up, spark one, an don't throw stones in glass houses lol So you're saying you would stop believing in God if the right evidence was presented to you? Sounds like your faith isn't too strong pal! That's a ridiculous comparison, you're starting to take this debate awfully personally pal I think you're the one that needs to cheer up and spark one God has already shown me in many different ways, he's my rock. So any hypothetical questions is just stupid. Ok ok, sorry for sledging corbyn lol an it's a good comparison, an the other thread proves it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 So you're not open minded on this subject at all then, why do you try to act like you are? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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