delswal 3,819 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Its mind blowing to think it all started by some miniscule thing living in the sea all those hundreds of millions years ago. Now that's something I cannot bring myself to accept .im Not saying it's wrong, no one can . Where have all the other minuscule half fish / humans gone , how come they stopped walking out of the seas , surely the chain would still be happening . Can't get my head around that one " Like why is a monkey still a monkey if that's where we evolved form?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Cz we were a different sort of monkey. Natural selection etc etc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,421 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Its mind blowing to think it all started by some miniscule thing living in the sea all those hundreds of millions years ago. Now that's something I cannot bring myself to accept .im Not saying it's wrong, no one can . Where have all the other minuscule half fish / humans gone , how come they stopped walking out of the seas , surely the chain would still be happening . Can't get my head around that one " Like why is a monkey still a monkey if that's where we evolved form?" If I dropped you naked into the deepest darkest rain forests along with a chimp in that environment who would be better evolved you or the chimp? ....humans followed a different evolutionary path to the apes and we hit the evolutionary jackpot mainly due to our social aspects .The reason we are top of the evolutionary pyramid is simply because we are the first to get there .With a few environmental changes and a few dna mutations there's no reasons why in time other species couldent over time become intelligent and it seems and makes perfect senses that once a animal reaches a certain intelligence level then that in its self excellerates the evolutionary process. ..that's how I see it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Its mind blowing to think it all started by some miniscule thing living in the sea all those hundreds of millions years ago. Now that's something I cannot bring myself to accept .im Not saying it's wrong, no one can . Where have all the other minuscule half fish / humans gone , how come they stopped walking out of the seas , surely the chain would still be happening . Can't get my head around that one Life will exploit any opportunity, when things first crawled out the sea there was an opportunity to eat food no other animals had access to, the animals that first did this are still here now ie mudskipper. As for evolution today? Well what are all the new diseases super bugs etc if not evolution Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Cz we were a different sort of monkey. Natural selection etc etc Natural selection selects, that's it, it doesn't create nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Its mind blowing to think it all started by some miniscule thing living in the sea all those hundreds of millions years ago. Now that's something I cannot bring myself to accept .im Not saying it's wrong, no one can . Where have all the other minuscule half fish / humans gone , how come they stopped walking out of the seas , surely the chain would still be happening . Can't get my head around that one " Like why is a monkey still a monkey if that's where we evolved form?" If I dropped you naked into the deepest darkest rain forests along with a chimp in that environment who would be better evolved you or the chimp? ....humans followed a different evolutionary path to the apes and we hit the evolutionary jackpot mainly due to our social aspects .The reason we are top of the evolutionary pyramid is simply because we are the first to get there .With a few environmental changes and a few dna mutations there's no reasons why in time other species couldent over time become intelligent and it seems and makes perfect senses that once a animal reaches a certain intelligence level then that in its self excellerates the evolutionary process. ..that's how I see it . Lol what do you mean by evolution? It's a slippery word. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Most of evolution took place before we were even born and took that long we never witnessed it. However evolution was seen in lizards. Cant remember the island but they took lizards frim one island and put them on another. Within 30/40 years they had evolved. Changed there jaw/stomach grew gills. Its more than a theory imo. Like i said earlier a lot more plausible and factual than some divine guy in the sky creating us and the world we live in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Most of evolution took place before we were even born and took that long we never witnessed it. However evolution was seen in lizards. Cant remember the island but they took lizards frim one island and put them on another. Within 30/40 years they had evolved. Changed there jaw/stomach grew gills. Its more than a theory imo. Like i said earlier a lot more plausible and factual than some divine guy in the sky creating us and the world we live in. How can it, you've said yourself it hasnt been witnessed, so what's your reasoning. What do you mean by e voloution? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,421 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Its mind blowing to think it all started by some miniscule thing living in the sea all those hundreds of millions years ago. Now that's something I cannot bring myself to accept .im Not saying it's wrong, no one can . Where have all the other minuscule half fish / humans gone , how come they stopped walking out of the seas , surely the chain would still be happening . Can't get my head around that one " Like why is a monkey still a monkey if that's where we evolved form?" If I dropped you naked into the deepest darkest rain forests along with a chimp in that environment who would be better evolved you or the chimp? ....humans followed a different evolutionary path to the apes and we hit the evolutionary jackpot mainly due to our social aspects .The reason we are top of the evolutionary pyramid is simply because we are the first to get there .With a few environmental changes and a few dna mutations there's no reasons why in time other species couldent over time become intelligent and it seems and makes perfect senses that once a animal reaches a certain intelligence level then that in its self excellerates the evolutionary process. ..that's how I see it . Lol what do you mean by evolution? It's a slippery word. We have done this subject to death in the past bud and i ain't going over it all again lol if evolution is a slippery word then creationism must be Teflon because there's no evidence that will stick to it lol...im always happy to converse with you bud but its totally pointless to keep hoing over the same ground ...we see the world through different eyes francie I think we just have to accept that 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 You witnessed many miracles or seen your god lately, ? Whats your reasoning in believing in unquestionable faith! I thought i pretty much explained what i mean.tbh ive read a lot of what you have written on this thread and i would be banging my head against a wall debating it with you. In your words "the good book" is all the answers you need. I get it you think we were created that's your opinion i have stated my opinion that its utter shite! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Its mind blowing to think it all started by some miniscule thing living in the sea all those hundreds of millions years ago. Now that's something I cannot bring myself to accept .im Not saying it's wrong, no one can . Where have all the other minuscule half fish / humans gone , how come they stopped walking out of the seas , surely the chain would still be happening . Can't get my head around that one " Like why is a monkey still a monkey if that's where we evolved form?" If I dropped you naked into the deepest darkest rain forests along with a chimp in that environment who would be better evolved you or the chimp? ....humans followed a different evolutionary path to the apes and we hit the evolutionary jackpot mainly due to our social aspects .The reason we are top of the evolutionary pyramid is simply because we are the first to get there .With a few environmental changes and a few dna mutations there's no reasons why in time other species couldent over time become intelligent and it seems and makes perfect senses that once a animal reaches a certain intelligence level then that in its self excellerates the evolutionary process. ..that's how I see it . Lol what do you mean by evolution? It's a slippery word. We have done this subject to death in the past bud and i ain't going over it all again lol if evolution is a slippery word then creationism must be Teflon because there's no evidence that will stick to it lol...im always happy to converse with you bud but its totally pointless to keep hoing over the same ground ...we see the world through different eyes francie I think we just have to accept that Yeah mate I'm just having the crack lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 You witnessed many miracles or seen your god lately, ? Whats your reasoning in believing in unquestionable faith! I thought i pretty much explained what i mean.tbh ive read a lot of what you have written on this thread and i would be banging my head against a wall debating it with you. In your words "the good book" is all the answers you need. I get it you think we were created that's your opinion i have stated my opinion that its utter shite! Not a bother lad, we all have opinions, I done a lot of research for few years, an a few personal things, we're all different mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,593 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I don't much care either way as I'm here and I'm going to enjoy my life as much as I can. Knowing "the truth" wouldn't change a thing. What makes evolution more believable to me is the tiny steps involved. We didn't just turn from one-cell organisms into what we are today overnight. It has been tiny step after tiny step for thousands of years. You can see we are still evolving. We are getting bigger, faster and stronger than we were years ago. Look at the doorways in old houses. Becoming what we are from absolutely nothing in one step. Nope.can't see it. This is the bit evolution people have never explained to me, where did the one cell organism come from?.......I'm not trying to be a clever c**t, I genuinely want to know the explanation on how nothing becomes something and then that something gives itself life? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) I don't much care either way as I'm here and I'm going to enjoy my life as much as I can. Knowing "the truth" wouldn't change a thing. What makes evolution more believable to me is the tiny steps involved. We didn't just turn from one-cell organisms into what we are today overnight. It has been tiny step after tiny step for thousands of years. You can see we are still evolving. We are getting bigger, faster and stronger than we were years ago. Look at the doorways in old houses. Becoming what we are from absolutely nothing in one step. Nope.can't see it. This is the bit evolution people have never explained to me, where did the one cell organism come from?.......I'm not trying to be a clever c**t, I genuinely want to know the explanation on how nothing becomes something and then that something gives itself life?They don't know wilf, literally Ask them were time space an matter came from wild, that's another goodun lol Edited September 18, 2016 by Francie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,421 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I don't much care either way as I'm here and I'm going to enjoy my life as much as I can. Knowing "the truth" wouldn't change a thing. What makes evolution more believable to me is the tiny steps involved. We didn't just turn from one-cell organisms into what we are today overnight. It has been tiny step after tiny step for thousands of years. You can see we are still evolving. We are getting bigger, faster and stronger than we were years ago. Look at the doorways in old houses. Becoming what we are from absolutely nothing in one step. Nope.can't see it. This is the bit evolution people have never explained to me, where did the one cell organism come from?.......I'm not trying to be a clever c**t, I genuinely want to know the explanation on how nothing becomes something and then that something gives itself life?Although it doesn't answer the questions how did life start the panspermia theory could explain be how simple life came to earth from space. . recently microorganisms have been found clinging and living on the outsdie of the international space station a environment previously thought for many reasons uninhabitable for living things http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188479-astronauts-find-living-organisms-clinging-to-the-international-space-station-and-arent-sure-how-they-got-there. .at this point nobody can say how life started but given that life at its basic level is just chemical reaction but with the ability to replicate its self I dont think its to far of a stretch of the imagination to think that somewhere in the vast universe all the ingredients and conditions were just right to start things of just because we can't replicate it doesn't prove or disprove anything ...end of the day its all pie in the sky and you just have to go with your own gut feelings and my gut feeling is life is simply a inevitable product of the universe the bigger question is how did the universe come to be . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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