rippem 455 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 And thats why theres alot of white pats out there right? And thats why folks liKe MR NUTTALL has a yard of white dogs.here in the state that a unexceptable color. And if you have a line that was bred hard on the black and there was nothing else in the line then you shouldnt get anything but black. You can call it a throw back or what ever else you want,if another color pops up that means someone but that color dog in the ped. Other wise it shouldnt pop up. Commen sense.so yes if your breeding this to that then of course you will have different colors..alot of you post crosses and call them pats. They look so big you might as well call them a small staff or pocket pit. Some of the dogs posted on the board you couldnt put in a ground hog set. And everything starts out as a mungrel as you call it but bred over and over and over again it becomes a breed just like every other breed has. They all started out as mutts but through culling and being specific you eventually will get what you want..if you breed your dog to just any working dog because you have a mungrel then good for you if thats what makes you happy..ill stay with line breeding so ill be consistent..why doesn't MR NUTTALL have white pats or brian from hurricane who has the miner blood, why doesn't he have white dogs or reds or what ever? Why? Do they cull them so nobody knows? Im not argue with you about color. Ill just say we agree to disagree. Peace black can carry every other possible colour,,dominant black can only throw black no matter what colour you put it to(still dosent mean they arent carrying another colour)-you should get a yorkie- always the same colour and can fit anywhere your a funny guy TIGGER. You probably own jack chihuahua crosses.. Quote Link to post
Craic 203 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) Wouldn't like to be meeting this boy in the dark, Edited September 14, 2016 by Craic 1 Quote Link to post
Lew 111 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Is that a Corgy mate? Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 I was always of the assumption that black x black and tan or black x blue produced the weak choc colour. I wasnt aware that generations of blacks could all of a sudden produce a choc. You live and learn I suppose. It could only give you a chocolate if both parents carry the recessive gene And by line breeding are you not just increasing the possibility of putting 2 together that have it Yes, line breeding pretty much guarantees you'll get the recessive gene on both sides. 2 Quote Link to post
Craic 203 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Is that a Corgy mate? my mate send it to me supposed to be pit x teckel I think gave me a laugh anyway Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Well I thought black was the dominant gene. And when black is involved only black surfaces? I know of 2 litters when first the dog was black and bitch was choc and it produced 7 black pups. Second time the dog was choc and the bitch was black and 5 black pups were the result. But I suppose honesty is what matters the most regardless of colour. 2 blacks can throw a chocolate ,but two chocolates cant throw a black,chocolate x black could throw either Only if the recessive gene is carried by both parents Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Is that a Corgy mate? No if memory serves me right pitbull x sausage dog Quote Link to post
Craic 203 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Is that a Corgy mate? No if memory serves me right pitbull x sausage dog my mate sent me that pic, he was trying to convince me that it was a pup he'd had of a well known terrierman, it gave me a laugh but as said later when I asked him he said it was pitx teckel Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 He was all over the Internet a while ago funny looking f****r 2 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Something Dead Eyes wants to introduce to get the size down lol. 2 Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,786 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Wouldn't like to be meeting this boy in the dark,a pit of imall terrier haha 2 Quote Link to post
jiggy 3,209 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 If they dont work their all yellow,its the most dominant colour. 3 Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,287 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Is there such thing as full Nuttall? Hes always had blacks so where does the choc colour come from?lol I think you and I both know where the recent chocolate colour comes from??? 2 Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 all very big looking, Quote Link to post
foxhunting1 74 Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Although Brian has many years experience in the terrier world and a vast amount of knowledge, and I have a lot of respect for this gentleman the terriers in his yard today are not the same stamp as years ago and actually in my personal view are far too small for earth work. 4 Quote Link to post
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