Born Hunter 17,841 Posted September 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Looks like I will be too... f**k, that's kyboshed any hope of a relaxing nights sleep! I'll be f***ing writhing I bet. Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,137 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Feck is that the 13th already Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,834 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Feck is that the 13th already Christmas soon mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,864 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Its predictable tbh but for mainstream viewers, not hunters IMO Cheers, D. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,841 Posted September 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Rachel, Diggory, Mike and Andy did a decent job. Credit to all of them. I thought Mike came across particularly well. I just wish Rachel would admit she does it primarily because she enjoys it and that there's nothing wrong with that for all of the ethical reasons presented. I really think that's the biggest mistake that our hunting representatives make and the antis see right through it. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Well even though it was sanitised, fair play to the girl, she stuck in there and even though she did not like what she saw, she seen it though. TC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Rachel, Diggory, Mike and Andy did a decent job. Credit to all of them. I thought Mike came across particularly well. I just wish Rachel would admit she does it primarily because she enjoys it and that there's nothing wrong with that for all of the ethical reasons presented. I really think that's the biggest mistake that our hunting representatives make and the antis see right through it. there is nothing wrong with taking enjoyment from doing a task well. Diggory is a great historian, gunsmith and writer, with a breadth of knowledge of historical firearms and hunting trophy hunting etc, but his temperament, is not what is needed for calm debate and explanation. But Mike Robinson has it down to a tee. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fat-Ferret 857 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Mike Robinson did very well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,841 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Rachel, Diggory, Mike and Andy did a decent job. Credit to all of them. I thought Mike came across particularly well. I just wish Rachel would admit she does it primarily because she enjoys it and that there's nothing wrong with that for all of the ethical reasons presented. I really think that's the biggest mistake that our hunting representatives make and the antis see right through it. there is nothing wrong with taking enjoyment from doing a task well. Diggory is a great historian, gunsmith and writer, with a breadth of knowledge of historical firearms and hunting trophy hunting etc, but his temperament, is not what is needed for calm debate and explanation. But Mike Robinson has it down to a tee. It did get a bit heated between them all at that point but I think the man is a far more presentable 'trophy hunter' than what the public are typically used to seeing so in that respect I think he was good. As you say, Mike really was very good. He is clearly a man who is very confident in his own beliefs and enjoyed the opportunity to educate an anti rather than letting his emotions get the better of him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,544 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 I thought it wasnt to bad and ive started watching the follow up film Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C.green 3,231 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 not seen the program but for a gun man Mike robinsons spot on he does a lot round by me and is a good lad had a few good chats with him plenty of times at his old pub. His mate the game dealer is also a true gent got time for everyone. Remind me I'll have to have a morning with the ferrets soon take him some nice clean rabbits down ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flipper_Al 1,012 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 I quite enjoyed it... amazing what happens when people open their minds, and discuss things in a civilised manner One thing that i didn't agree with was Diggory using Angling to justify his trophy shots.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,841 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) I quite enjoyed it... amazing what happens when people open their minds, and discuss things in a civilised manner One thing that i didn't agree with was Diggory using Angling to justify his trophy shots.... I thought he was spot on myself. In both instances they are trophy shots, the motivation behind a fishing photo or a hunting photo is the same, it's a photograph of an achievement the owner has great personal value in. He did not try to draw parallels in the actual act of fishing and trophy hunting, just the act of photographing the result. I also thought it was good when he pointed out that then pushing those photos into the public domain may not be in the best of taste. But that is the culture we live in these days. Social media has nurtured a culture that seems to encourage people to show the world unashamedly what they are and do. A large part of me thinks there is nothing wrong with that, but another part thinks that for controversial topics, such an attitude is counter productive and does nothing to fairly represent the individual or their pursuit. Edited September 14, 2016 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flipper_Al 1,012 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 Agree they are both trophy shots, but ask any angler, they would never quote another sport, over the trophy shot, his first comment was to use Angling, rather than comment on his hunting...i may be being a little pedantic, but that's how it came across to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,841 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) Agree they are both trophy shots, but ask any angler, they would never quote another sport, over the trophy shot, his first comment was to use Angling, rather than comment on his hunting...i may be being a little pedantic, but that's how it came across to me How often do anglers get demanded to justify their photographs and continued legality? Every single picture from a trophy hunt in the public eye will be met with hate, threats, sensational explanations to the reasons why and demands for justification. When/if anglers ever do I fully expect them to use similar examples from other activities to help explain their motivation behind their fish photos. It's a fairly standard debating tactic to use one generally acceptable act to help explain/convey the reason/justification for another technically similar act. I see nothing wrong with what he did myself. Edited September 14, 2016 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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