Secrets Of The Sas

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Was it Chris Ryan that went streight to sas from being a cadet ,,or somthing similar,,,or have I got my wires crossed

[Greyman 28,441]

One thing I noticed that they all said they had troubled up bringings and some of them were tearaways in their teens liked the part when the cameraman asked the one what did he think about shooting women and children and he said they not women and children they targets when they armed fair play to him

sorry I have not read any further than this, so apologise if it's been said elsewhere, but the reason they all had troubled upbringings is the fact that most of the original sas were former borstal boys, i was taught this in borstal myself, it was one of there claims to fame and something they were quite rightly proud of, and having served a few years at, Portland and guys marsh, borstal,s I can confirm that shooting women and kids would not raise the heart beat of most inmates, it was a very strict regime based on military discipline,s were they would basically break your sole and spirit, then pick you up from your lowest point to become your surrogate parents, and in return you would do everything and anything asked of you, sadly I have to admit that the reason most of us were there in the first place was because we never really had a conscience or gave a shit about the people we had screwed over, all the raw ingredients you need for a professional killing machine, ???

[Born Hunter 17,763]

Was it Chris Ryan that went streight to sas from being a cadet ,,or somthing similar,,,or have I got my wires crossed

 

Doesn't he still hold the record for the longest escape and evasion distance in British military history or something similar?

 

In 'Duncan Falconer's' book on his years with the SBS, he allegedly did the same straight from Lympstone to Poole, before being assigned to a Commando. Cracking book by the way, First into Action.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Born Hunter

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Just looked on wiki....

 

Went in as boy soldier at 16,,in the sas reserves ,,,then joined as a medic when he was old enough,,but had to do 8 week training with the paras cos he didn't come from a parant regiment

[socks 32,253]

Was it Chris Ryan that went streight to sas from being a cadet ,,or somthing similar,,,or have I got my wires crossed

He ( Colin Armstrong) was in the SAS ta regiment mate........

[socks 32,253]

 

One thing I noticed that they all said they had troubled up bringings and some of them were tearaways in their teens liked the part when the cameraman asked the one what did he think about shooting women and children and he said they not women and children they targets when they armed fair play to him

sorry I have not read any further than this, so apologise if it's been said elsewhere, but the reason they all had troubled upbringings is the fact that most of the original sas were former borstal boys, i was taught this in borstal myself, it was one of there claims to fame and something they were quite rightly proud of, and having served a few years at, Portland and guys marsh, borstal,s I can confirm that shooting women and kids would not raise the heart beat of most inmates, it was a very strict regime based on military discipline,s were they would basically break your sole and spirit, then pick you up from your lowest point to become your surrogate parents, and in return you would do everything and anything asked of you, sadly I have to admit that the reason most of us were there in the first place was because we never really had a conscience or gave a shit about the people we had screwed over, all the raw ingredients you need for a professional killing machine, ???

Being a little fukcer and ending up in borstal is a far cry from becoming a professional soldier and has nothing to do with potentially being a "professional killing machine".

[Blackbriar 8,569]

 

 

One thing I noticed that they all said they had troubled up bringings and some of them were tearaways in their teens liked the part when the cameraman asked the one what did he think about shooting women and children and he said they not women and children they targets when they armed fair play to him

sorry I have not read any further than this, so apologise if it's been said elsewhere, but the reason they all had troubled upbringings is the fact that most of the original sas were former borstal boys, i was taught this in borstal myself, it was one of there claims to fame and something they were quite rightly proud of, and having served a few years at, Portland and guys marsh, borstal,s I can confirm that shooting women and kids would not raise the heart beat of most inmates, it was a very strict regime based on military discipline,s were they would basically break your sole and spirit, then pick you up from your lowest point to become your surrogate parents, and in return you would do everything and anything asked of you, sadly I have to admit that the reason most of us were there in the first place was because we never really had a conscience or gave a shit about the people we had screwed over, all the raw ingredients you need for a professional killing machine, ???

Being a little fukcer and ending up in borstal is a far cry from becoming a professional soldier and has nothing to do with potentially being a "professional killing machine".

You've had some experience of this type of world, Socks, and you must have met a few Troopers...I think anyone who volunteers to serve is worthy of respect, but what do you think separates them from regular soldiers ?

[Greyman 28,441]

 

 

One thing I noticed that they all said they had troubled up bringings and some of them were tearaways in their teens liked the part when the cameraman asked the one what did he think about shooting women and children and he said they not women and children they targets when they armed fair play to him

sorry I have not read any further than this, so apologise if it's been said elsewhere, but the reason they all had troubled upbringings is the fact that most of the original sas were former borstal boys, i was taught this in borstal myself, it was one of there claims to fame and something they were quite rightly proud of, and having served a few years at, Portland and guys marsh, borstal,s I can confirm that shooting women and kids would not raise the heart beat of most inmates, it was a very strict regime based on military discipline,s were they would basically break your sole and spirit, then pick you up from your lowest point to become your surrogate parents, and in return you would do everything and anything asked of you, sadly I have to admit that the reason most of us were there in the first place was because we never really had a conscience or gave a shit about the people we had screwed over, all the raw ingredients you need for a professional killing machine, ???

Being a little fukcer and ending up in borstal is a far cry from becoming a professional soldier and has nothing to do with potentially being a "professional killing machine".

maybe not today but when the sas was formed it was made up of a large amount of boys from borstal, that's a true fact and that was the context of my reply, I,m not suggesting that anyone who wants to get in the sas today mugs an old lady, it was just a little bit of history, sorry if it offended you

[socks 32,253]

 

 

 

One thing I noticed that they all said they had troubled up bringings and some of them were tearaways in their teens liked the part when the cameraman asked the one what did he think about shooting women and children and he said they not women and children they targets when they armed fair play to him

sorry I have not read any further than this, so apologise if it's been said elsewhere, but the reason they all had troubled upbringings is the fact that most of the original sas were former borstal boys, i was taught this in borstal myself, it was one of there claims to fame and something they were quite rightly proud of, and having served a few years at, Portland and guys marsh, borstal,s I can confirm that shooting women and kids would not raise the heart beat of most inmates, it was a very strict regime based on military discipline,s were they would basically break your sole and spirit, then pick you up from your lowest point to become your surrogate parents, and in return you would do everything and anything asked of you, sadly I have to admit that the reason most of us were there in the first place was because we never really had a conscience or gave a shit about the people we had screwed over, all the raw ingredients you need for a professional killing machine, ???

Being a little fukcer and ending up in borstal is a far cry from becoming a professional soldier and has nothing to do with potentially being a "professional killing machine".

You've had some experience of this type of world, Socks, and you must have met a few Troopers...I think anyone who volunteers to serve is worthy of respect, but what do you think separates them from regular soldiers ?

There's a few things mate ... You obviously have to be an above average soldier ... Fit ... Robust ... but above all have the mental attitude to push yourself beyond breaking point ... Never to give up no matter how hard or shitty things get .... There are plenty of soldiers that served and are serving that could have made it into the SAS but some just don't want to or circumstances meant they didn't have the chance to do selection in their time frame ... There are others that have everything but their just not suited to the regiment .... There was a fella I know that had passed everything along with a lot of others but they needed to thin the group out so they took the squad on a beast of a tab which lost some and at the end of that told them they were on an 8 mile run at best effort and those that didnt come in at a certain time would be dropped .... The fella had finished the run and was sat on his Bergan drinking a brew that he had made ... When the first instructor came in he said to him ... Where have you been the brew is getting cold ... That was him dropped there and then ... Not the right mentality for the regiment .... They must have known something because a few years later he was jailed and kicked out of the army for molesting male recruites in a training depot ......

[socks 32,253]

 

 

 

One thing I noticed that they all said they had troubled up bringings and some of them were tearaways in their teens liked the part when the cameraman asked the one what did he think about shooting women and children and he said they not women and children they targets when they armed fair play to him

sorry I have not read any further than this, so apologise if it's been said elsewhere, but the reason they all had troubled upbringings is the fact that most of the original sas were former borstal boys, i was taught this in borstal myself, it was one of there claims to fame and something they were quite rightly proud of, and having served a few years at, Portland and guys marsh, borstal,s I can confirm that shooting women and kids would not raise the heart beat of most inmates, it was a very strict regime based on military discipline,s were they would basically break your sole and spirit, then pick you up from your lowest point to become your surrogate parents, and in return you would do everything and anything asked of you, sadly I have to admit that the reason most of us were there in the first place was because we never really had a conscience or gave a shit about the people we had screwed over, all the raw ingredients you need for a professional killing machine, ???

Being a little fukcer and ending up in borstal is a far cry from becoming a professional soldier and has nothing to do with potentially being a "professional killing machine".

maybe not today but when the sas was formed it was made up of a large amount of boys from borstal, that's a true fact and that was the context of my reply, I,m not suggesting that anyone who wants to get in the sas today mugs an old lady, it was just a little bit of history, sorry if it offended you

I've never heard of that fact and I suppose you mean lads that left borstal to join the army and then went onto the SAS ... Either way no offence taken here mate .......

[lanesra 3,994]

killing as a soldier is completely different from a warped Fukcer who kills for pleasure , sas sbs or the catering core if anyone in these regiments kill its a job to them & Id say some once back in civy st. they think back and at times have bad times , there trained to do a job & while serving its what might happen , maybe I'm wrong but there not "Killing Machines" there doing what may come with the job as a serving soldier . . As 1 bloke said a "There's No such thing as an uneffected soldier" or words similiar , all walks of life have served in special forces , you don't need a bad back-ground , I think like anyone who's better at sport , art , maths ect a SF soldier has that something inner that stands out from those who don't quite make it irrelevant from background !!

[squab 2,875]

you will hear many selection stories and most are a far cry from actual events, the having a brew on selection is one of them,not dismissing what socks is saying by any means but iv heard the same story.

 

i know couple lads who made it,one was an officer in my regiment,failed jungle warfare first time round,you dont just go back and do that again you do the whole selection,i met him 2 years later from getting in on his second go i was actualy taking part in a hostage exercise in Gibraltar when he pulled off his gas mask to say hi to the lads,the second lad was a full screw,just had something about him compared to your average infantry soldier,he would run in his own time carrying fire extinguishers in his burgan,thats proper dead weight.he went away on selection and i never see him again so full respect to him.

 

there are many S.A.S operations that have taken place which have involved the S.B.S although they rarely get a mention...........in my honest opinion they are a cut above.

[socks 32,253]

you will hear many selection stories and most are a far cry from actual events, the having a brew on selection is one of them,not dismissing what socks is saying by any means but iv heard the same story.

 

i know couple lads who made it,one was an officer in my regiment,failed jungle warfare first time round,you dont just go back and do that again you do the whole selection,i met him 2 years later from getting in on his second go i was actualy taking part in a hostage exercise in Gibraltar when he pulled off his gas mask to say hi to the lads,the second lad was a full screw,just had something about him compared to your average infantry soldier,he would run in his own time carrying fire extinguishers in his burgan,thats proper dead weight.he went away on selection and i never see him again so full respect to him.

 

there are many S.A.S operations that have taken place which have involved the S.B.S although they rarely get a mention...........in my honest opinion they are a cut above.

We have all heard the over exaggerated stories mate but I can guarantee this happened as I know a lad that was on the same course that passed ... The most extreme Ive seen is a mate of mine that broke his leg on a training exercise and when I was on a weekend visit to my old girls house I passed him running along the road with a full cast on ... I stopped for a natter and he had only had the cast on a week but was going stir crazy so had to get out of the house lol .......

[Greyman 28,441]

I do actually have a family member that served with the sas for many years, he is now a bit of a recluse and lives in a tiny cottage on the north wales coast, spending his days fishing, I was to young to understand the significance of what he did when our family's were in regular contact and have,nt seen him for many years, if my memory serves me right he spent many years in the Yemen and went back to work as a mercenary for the sha or what ever he was called when he finished with the sas

[squab 2,875]

I do actually have a family member that served with the sas for many years, he is now a bit of a recluse and lives in a tiny cottage on the north wales coast, spending his days fishing, I was to young to understand the significance of what he did when our family's were in regular contact and have,nt seen him for many years, if my memory serves me right he spent many years in the Yemen and went back to work as a mercenary for the sha or what ever he was called when he finished with the sas

i somehow like the thought of the way hes chosen to live,lets be honest dont sound to bad to me and its obviously well deserved ,id do the same if i could get away with it lol