Squirrel_Basher 17,104 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Maybe I've been lucky ,maybe I thought long and hard about breeding but my own stuff has never gotten smaller .Breeding from the best bitches back to a single stud has stood me well rather than cousin to cousin and all the mixes thereafter .You need one consistent factor and its my belief the dog is just that .keeping on too many dog pups is detrimental to good size I believe as the temptation is there to use a dog that maybe won't throw size .Brian for example realized that his pups were in demand and broke from his old rule of best to best just to churn out clones to satisfy demand ,losing years of breeding ,size and respect . 7 Quote Link to post
Kaizer Sozĕ 266 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Maybe I've been lucky ,maybe I thought long and hard about breeding but my own stuff has never gotten smaller .Breeding from the best bitches back to a single stud has stood me well rather than cousin to cousin and all the mixes thereafter .You need one consistent factor and its my belief the dog is just that .keeping on too many dog pups is detrimental to good size I believe as the temptation is there to use a dog that maybe won't throw size .Brian for example realized that his pups were in demand and broke from his old rule of best to best just to churn out clones to satisfy demand ,losing years of breeding ,size and respect . how close to those bitches is that stud? What happens when that stud dies? Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I understand the first matings were all to the same stud FD but then surely the next matings would havto be half bro/half sis, cousins etc so that can't be avoided regardless? 1 Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Fd, have you bred a daughter back to the main stud? If so, how did those turn out? Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,104 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 All I will say is I only ever have one main stud with a few up and coming dogs for replacements .All bitches are put to same stud . 1 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,104 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 I understand the first matings were all to the same stud FD but then surely the next matings would havto be half bro/half sis, cousins etc so that can't be avoided regardless? All bitches are put to a single stud regardless of relationship mate .Cousin to cousin would only occur very infrequently when a new stud is used and would be for her second litter if required .I only use a dog when he's had 5 good seasons on him and a new one would overlap the end of the old stud so I know he's right and still time to change .I had all this documented in my old thread but deleted it.A recent tragedy with my main stud has forced me to use an outcross ,the resulting one pup a bitch ,will be the future from now for me put back to her sire if he makes it 4 more years . 2 Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 I understand the first matings were all to the same stud FD but then surely the next matings would havto be half bro/half sis, cousins etc so that can't be avoided regardless? All bitches are put to a single stud regardless of relationship mate .Cousin to cousin would only occur very infrequently when a new stud is used and would be for her second litter if required .I only use a dog when he's had 5 good seasons on him and a new one would overlap the end of the old stud so I know he's right and still time to change .I had all this documented in my old thread but deleted it.A recent tragedy with my main stud has forced me to use an outcross ,the resulting one pup a bitch ,will be the future from now for me put back to her sire if he makes it 4 more years . Why did you delete it fd? It was a damn good read Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,104 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I understand the first matings were all to the same stud FD but then surely the next matings would havto be half bro/half sis, cousins etc so that can't be avoided regardless? All bitches are put to a single stud regardless of relationship mate .Cousin to cousin would only occur very infrequently when a new stud is used and would be for her second litter if required .I only use a dog when he's had 5 good seasons on him and a new one would overlap the end of the old stud so I know he's right and still time to change .I had all this documented in my old thread but deleted it.A recent tragedy with my main stud has forced me to use an outcross ,the resulting one pup a bitch ,will be the future from now for me put back to her sire if he makes it 4 more years . Why did you delete it fd? It was a damn good read The usual arseholes mate .Tried cleaning it up several times but it was ruined in my eyes and I thought f**k it ,why should these scroats get the benefit of knowledge if that's how they act . 8 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,104 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Fd, have you bred a daughter back to the main stud? If so, how did those turn out? Yes mate many times with excellent results . 2 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Nuttal chose himself to go the route of having all small terriers , not through losing size by accident. He doesn't like big dogs , but long enough time ago the we're big and some probably too big. 1 Quote Link to post
roundmouth86 251 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Probably because he prefers his hounds and lurchers to terriers. That's what I got from this comment Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,104 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Nuttal chose himself to go the route of having all small terriers , not through losing size by accident. He doesn't like big dogs , but long enough time ago the we're big and some probably too big.Total bollocks ,he lost size and to cut the loss of face he went with it.His early stuff was the envy of many a yard but pound signs meant breed ,breed ,breed .You were probably glued up anyway . 2 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Talking shit again you dickhead . I know the man well and stayed in his house .and listened to him .and he saw a big dog years ago off rocky and bitch was his from hunt kennals and wouldn't take a mating because of size and era and for all time previous and thereafter .all about small dogs to him . and say you don't have nothing better in your TeX book digging and green game and plush puff area! Quote Link to post
Dig-deep-draw-charlie 2,713 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Must be running a rehab centre now lol 3 Quote Link to post
Treehands. 1,379 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 poor Brian , his head must of been battered. "Plush Puff" Class 3 Quote Link to post
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