hewastheboy 77 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 What would you do if you bred your 2 pats and out came a white pup? Do you think that's possible? Would you keep or breed those dogs again? And how do you feel if you got black and tan pups out of a pat litter? Just curious to see what others would do. I personally wouldn't keep it or do the breeding again. In fair there was jack or something else mixed in. And is black and tan a common color in pats? Haven't really seen it. Or is that considered a Lakeland? Curious to know what others think..thanks they come out the ground brown mud colour with a splash or red that's what matters 2 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 There's no such mythical animal as a "pure Patterdale " , they've got border, bull and Black and tan in the mix. They're a relatively new type, show me any pictures of a family of "pure Patterdale " before Cryil Breay, Nuttall or Buck. Nuttall still gets white pups in the odd litter, Steven blood gets black and tan or chocolate and tan, much like a chocolate doberman colouration. 18 Quote Link to post
Craic 203 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 There's no such mythical animal as a "pure Patterdale " , they've got border, bull and Black and tan in the mix. They're a relatively new type, show me any pictures of a family of "pure Patterdale " before Cryil Breay, Nuttall or Buck. Nuttall still gets white pups in the odd litter, Steven blood gets black and tan or chocolate and tan, much like a chocolate doberman colouration. I had a black an tan in a litter just looked like a strong Lakeland when grown obviously that came from dogs in the mix a very long time ago, atb Quote Link to post
andy26 618 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Just had this conversation at the weekend at a show two of my mates up here have been digging partners for years breeding there own stuff all the time an this summer a white one has popped out for the first time they are both baffled, of course one of them has kept it to see how it turns out, the pup doesn't no what colour it is does it, probs turn out a cracker an tbh I hope it does. 1 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 44,993 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 So if two black fell/ Lakeland's had white pups would that make them Russell's, just asking ?[/quote-anything white bodied is a Russell TYPE imo-regardless of the colour of sire/dam.bought a bitch years ago off one of the names - bronze colour bitch-sold to me as pat x russell-bumped into the bloke probably 12 yrs or more later and he had the cheek to stand there and lie about what was in his dogs lol-tried telling me someone else had sold me the dog-he got himself and a few of his mates in a book so had to keep up the pretenses lol-thought about putting the man's number and address up on here that's written on the receipt his wife wrote for me-lots on here will know him.but thinking about it there's no need as he is only lying to "HIS SELF" and I'm not that bitter lol.I guess most just say what they think you want to hear ;)telling porkies will only get you caught out in the longrun imo.the bitch by the way was one of the best I've had/seen and served me well for many a season.atb dc 5 Quote Link to post
Craic 203 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 They say paper never refused ink, never a truer word said, for every decent terrier man in a book there will be half a dozen tossers at least. Quote Link to post
Craic 203 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 You won't find to many honest puppy peddlars lol, their salesmen at the end of the day, most of them couldn't lie straight in bed Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) I had a Lakeland bitch that was Middleton bred, she wasn't directly off him but she was his blood, I used a well known black terrier from the Midlands on her and got four black and white, one black and tan and a black bitch ! Everyone a show stopper, some decent workers in the mix but what label would you put on them ? Edited August 31, 2016 by dillydog Quote Link to post
Craic 203 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 I had a Lakeland bitch that was Middleton bred, she wasn't directly off him but she was his blood, I used a well known by black terrier from the Midlands on her and got four black and white, one black and tan and a black bitch ! Everyone a show stopper, some decent workers in the mix but what label would you put on them ? , working terriers 2 Quote Link to post
tank34 2,340 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Can be all colours and a ugly fuxker for me if dog works well then that what should matter 1 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Picture of a picture so poor quality. The black and tan bitch on the bottom left is the dam to the multi coloured litter. 1 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 A black and white dog out of the litter, a decent enough dog. That's my eldest lad who's now 28 years old, Jesus time flies. 9 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Black smooth bitch out of the same litter, I haven't got a picture of the black and tan bitch out of the litter but I'll get one off the lad later. Patterdale, fell of Lakeland's, any colour is possible 1 Quote Link to post
Craic 203 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Out of interest did you breed from any of the litterand how did they turn out ? Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,462 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 No, I had the Stevens stuff then and it was the beginnings of greater things. 2 Quote Link to post
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