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Hi was wondering if any of you guys with more experience with terriers could tell me if this sounds right there was a guy saying that the old man that learned him to run a trap line used a dog that was a x between a bull terrier and something he called a German terrier that would track coyote bobcat fox and Badger that pulled the traps off and if they made it to a den the dog would go in and pull the animal out of the den I was wondering if anyone of you had ever heard or seen terrier used to pull the game out I always thought they bay them under ground and the hunter dig the game out but terrier hunting is still kind of new here so I thought I would ask some people that had more of a history with them

I know of one 1/2x bull in Cali that killed a coyote underground and pulled it out. He's about 21lbs

Him and a brother of his (about 26 lbs) caught and killed another above ground. Opportunities with terriers on coyotes are very limited.

 

Don't know of any dog, of any breeding even managing to be regularly dug to with badger in the states, not to mind killing them.

Would depend on how much of the killing the trap is doing.

 

 

i think they live in small scratched out places and are nomadic in the states, they dont have big multi holed multi leveled fortresses

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Well FairPlay lads, I,ve owned and worked terriers since it was legal to dig and kill everything and anything, right upto the sorry state we find ourselves in today and I,m struggling to know what the

The trials were never about drawing the game,it was about working the game for a time limit in complete silence with judges listening for the slightest whimper.

I hope no one puts up a copy of the rules. It's a very private part of history in the Irish working dog game. Regarding the trials not being a game test ? I was going to stay out of a silly thread,

My opinion is that the trial dogs were game. They had to be to get the job done . I don't think that them travling a shoot and entering a shore was game but then facing its quarry in such a tight space taking and giving punishment for 6 minits ( or however long it was ) on the other hand needs a degree of gameness . I'm sure the lads who worked dogs at the trials let there dogs work for longer than 6 minits wile training I'm sure acouple of them trial dogs were worked in other ways aswell but probably not realy shouted about but kept amongst friends .... However I could be wrong ... But my opinion is that they must been game to get the job done . However the ultimate test of gameness in a dog is Piting it against its own kind in a box .. Just my opinion tho

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Well FairPlay lads, I,ve owned and worked terriers since it was legal to dig and kill everything and anything, right upto the sorry state we find ourselves in today and I,m struggling to know what the feck you are on about, here we have a question from a bloke the other side of the Atlantic, and in reply he gets an incripted reply covering everything from one end of the dog spectrum to to what was alright in the 60,s when all he wants is a cross with enough nose to track an injured animal and enough balls and size to draw it out once tracked, a simple question, just needs a simple answer I think, in answer to the op, it was quite normal in my area to have a larger heavily bull influenced type of terrier, to lock onto and draw out a badger at the end of a dig, especially if you wanted to bag it up for moving to another area, not so important if you were going to shoot it when you got down to it, so really a decent apbt crossed with a good earth dog with strong nose should fit the bill for you fine

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Thinks grey man that what I was I was going for a dog that had it in them to track any game on the trap line that pulled out a trap and be strong enough to catch in cover or in a den and pull it out in the open for a shot the boy that give me the idea said that his teacher used his to pull out fox Badger bobcat and coyote but he was from out in the Western parts where I am from we don't have Badger but we have fox raccoon which is about the size of a Badger and fightes as hard as on we also have bobcat and coyote pules we have a lot of brush and cover they could get into that a bigger dog could not get into just wondering what kind of x have you seen used

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