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Can anyone tell me what the point of this is and what possible purpose it serves?

Dawn.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTPvtga-Rgs...feature=related

I have walked the fields for nearly 50 years ,hunting with dogs of one kind or another,and never felt ashamed of what I did,but that clip made me sick to my stomach,its on a par with the bagged Badger that is brought out again and again to test the dogs courage,the poor Wolf has no chance of escape ,and has obviously been used before in this disgusting spectacle,when an animal has no sporting chance ,as far as I,m concerned its baiting ,.What baffles me is that the people concerned in this ,haven,t even the decency to be ashamed of it ,but instead film it ,as though it were something meritorious,SCUM.

 

Inan.

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Borzoi were bred to take down wolf - their limbs being too long for coursing as we know it in Britain.

But they were also bred for stamina. There speed really doesnt match that of a grey or whippet, but they were bred to run further with out tiring.

A short run like that niether shows the power and grace of these beautiful dogs. Its not sport. I cant see how it could be judged as a race either - the course is so short they barely had room to stretch :thumbdown:

Im a fan of coursing, and a fan of Borzoi. But Im no fan of that. :censored:

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Sooo...testing keeness of your hounds using bagged/tethered quarry is pityfull...but digging to fox with terriers is not? And what about snaring? I smell some subjectivity here...

 

L

 

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Hunting/digging/snaring is very different from baiting, especially when you are baiting a domesticated animal.

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Sooo...testing keeness of your hounds using bagged/tethered quarry is pityfull...but digging to fox with terriers is not? And what about snaring? I smell some subjectivity here...

 

L

 

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Hunting/digging/snaring is very different from baiting, especially when you are baiting a domesticated animal.

Call it training or what you want ,I beleive setting dogs on any animal that is tethered,with no chance of escape is wrong ,In my view whatever you hunt,is entitled to be killed as quickly and cleanly as possible,and if the wretched animal is carted out again and again ,it.s mental anguish must be unbeleivable.I am proud to be a hunter ,but would be ashamed to be associated with that sort of baiting.Inan.

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i totally agree with the above statements... i know it may sound very anti or whatever you want to call it but that shouldnt be allowed... some people have said that "thats just how they do it over there" but does that really make it ok?? i'm no expert in training and entering dogs but i bet i could get a dog to start work without using all the theotrics seen in that video...

 

lennard mate, if you cant see how different and humane snaring, digging and hunting is then your doin something very very wrong lad

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It isn't my cup of tea either...but posts like this are also a thought experiment on ethics...where do my fellow man and me put the border on what is right/wrong...

 

I wonder where the concensus comes from...where does the feeling change...a fox hold up in a pipe bitten and shaken to death is "right", an animal strangeling itself to death in a snare is "right" but having a dog attack a tethered animal is wrong? Where on the scale is for example gassing millions of male chicks or other nasty agricultural practises involving millions of animals...or pig hunting with catch dogs?

 

 

What if the animal is a chicken and I use it to teach my hawk to attack larger birds?

 

Also...where would you dogmen go when you are on vacation in Khazakstan or Kyrgistan and you can take a day trip...to the traditional folk dancing or to a relatively brutal hunting trail?

 

L

 

Catching rodents and such with dogs that kill quickly is morally one of the cleanest ;)

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thats the first time i seen that clip,and boy did it stir some emosions.

cant see the point of it myselfe,but i wouldent say it's cruel,looks like a few boys having a sunday

out with their dogs,the same as most of us,or should i say some of us do most week ends.

looking at the clip though,some may feel the need to protest,and why ? thats how they do things in other countrys

not right for some over here but they see clips of us lot hunting fox on nice horses and silly red coat things on

and i wonder what they think of that,have a right laugth at us i would think.

 

rabbit coursing was once a big thing in this country,in south wales especialy,and not lamping or bolting with ferrets

but let go for the dogs on sunday meets, ok out lawed now but how many on here would think that was or is cruel

not many i bet,and yet you all criticise other's for they're sport,at the end of the day that wolf aint got a bad life by

the looks of thing,he gets fed on a regular basis,gets loads of exercise and at the end of the day them borzois

'the wolf hounds' look shit scared of him.

 

when it comes to real cruelty some often put animals before humans,andthats wrong.

youve got the child abusers the rapeists and all the nasty fuckers in the word,the muslims who blow up

inocent people and kids and for nothing realy except the crazy religion thats flowing through they're f****d

up minds, and yet you still call a couple of dogs running a wolfe cruel ??????

have a real think about it

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