Why Aren't Gundog Lurchers Popular?

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Article about it in C/W last week by C.Dave Hancock

Yes pal I read it tried to get my uncle to write in but hes not really an extrovert to be honest! But all the things Hancock said ring true to be fair this cross has been around and a few people use it, my uncle started a line about 20 years ago.

 

 

not bad for a 1/2 fell hound 1/2 greyhound ehhh

Did you keep the line going ??

 

What did the orginal first crosses go to next ??

 

the original got thrown to another greyhound and made the 3/4 cross and thats the sire of my pup sorry for the pic he is 12 years old here but a big strong dog 27"

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I would take a punt at a gwp X grey !

seen a couple and they weren't that good. Not as quick as the collie lurchers on the day, and not as brave... Good hunters though in woodland and fellside

I'd have to see the parents working first like ! This foxhound X bull grey is suiting my needs at the moment great hunter and plenty of guts ! Never be a lamping dog which doesn't bother me

Go for a fell hound or trail hound for a lamping dog! Much leaner than a normal foxhound. When you list the things a hound brings to lurcher lines it amazes me that they are not a popular cross but I must admit I wouldn't want too many knobs getting into hound crosses lol

I'm very lucky as I can keep a few lurchers the dog im taking about will never see the lamp he has no need but u agree he brings a lot to the table lurcher wise he feets are great ! Stamina is unreal literally doesn't stop all day ! He's a nice dog to have around not everyone cup of tea but he's a massive part of my hunting and couldn't be with out the big b*****d now

 

Yes pal I have a fell hound lurcher and I have seen the hound crosses on the lamp in short the hound cross brings amazing stamina, great drive and feet they are solid dogs built to work the British countryside and another thing the fell hounds are controlled by voice so they can't be too daft either!

 

I suppose that is everything a gundog could bring but in a running frame. What about voice though?

 

none have made a peep mate would never of bred out of the origional if it yapped your right maybe a gundog could bring that to the table but there isn't a gundog in the world that could keep with a fell hound at work and I'm not knocking gun dogs they have good qualities pal. I think gundogs could offer a bit of refinement to some lurchers with manners and solid retrieval....but there not really proven on all game.

 

Ive never bred a lurcher using gundog or hound,but I think if I was going to try it I would chance the fell hound over gundog for those reasons you have given. I think you should deffo write an article for the C/W or at least a letter to reply to D.Hancock

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socks anit these your lamping shoes ...Iv heard you like to make out your taller than you are....

With gortex...

I think they did give him the opinion ... But he went with latex ...

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Article about it in C/W last week by C.Dave Hancock

Yes pal I read it tried to get my uncle to write in but hes not really an extrovert to be honest! But all the things Hancock said ring true to be fair this cross has been around and a few people use it, my uncle started a line about 20 years ago.

 

 

not bad for a 1/2 fell hound 1/2 greyhound ehhh

Did you keep the line going ??

 

What did the orginal first crosses go to next ??

the original got thrown to another greyhound and made the 3/4 cross and thats the sire of my pup sorry for the pic he is 12 years old here but a big strong dog 27"

Did the 1/4 -3/4 go over any bitches ??

 

How much stamina did he have ??

 

The F1 looked a cracking dog..

 

Old dog looked racy, would of liked to see him in his prime..

 

Thanks for replying fella..

 

Really intresting..

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Article about it in C/W last week by C.Dave Hancock

Yes pal I read it tried to get my uncle to write in but hes not really an extrovert to be honest! But all the things Hancock said ring true to be fair this cross has been around and a few people use it, my uncle started a line about 20 years ago.

 

 

not bad for a 1/2 fell hound 1/2 greyhound ehhh

Did you keep the line going ??

 

What did the orginal first crosses go to next ??

the original got thrown to another greyhound and made the 3/4 cross and thats the sire of my pup sorry for the pic he is 12 years old here but a big strong dog 27"

Did the 1/4 -3/4 go over any bitches ??

 

How much stamina did he have ??

 

The F1 looked a cracking dog..

 

Old dog looked racy, would of liked to see him in his prime..

 

Thanks for replying fella..

 

Really intresting..

 

This is the bitch I'll be running this season the 3/4 has sired before a few years back and I've heard the dogs have done well but my uncle doesn't get out nearly as much as he used to but liked the look of a dog local to him it was a sal/collie/whip/grey so he lined the two, he offered me a pup and I took one. To be honest I am looking for a hound x to line to my bitch one day if she does the business to bring back the influence.

The 3/4 made a very smart dog and I would love something similar, I can see why people say it but yapping has never been in the line at all and people always mention day time hunting and the nose, but these dogs are bred to take all game on lamp and daytime long ears and that's it.

 

Thanks for reading pal

 

 

oh yeah and she seems to be able to run all night and is keen a feck.

Edited August 25, 2016 by straight2hand

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I would take a punt at a gwp X grey !

seen a couple and they weren't that good. Not as quick as the collie lurchers on the day, and not as brave... Good hunters though in woodland and fellside

I'd have to see the parents working first like ! This foxhound X bull grey is suiting my needs at the moment great hunter and plenty of guts ! Never be a lamping dog which doesn't bother me

Go for a fell hound or trail hound for a lamping dog! Much leaner than a normal foxhound. When you list the things a hound brings to lurcher lines it amazes me that they are not a popular cross but I must admit I wouldn't want too many knobs getting into hound crosses lol

I'm very lucky as I can keep a few lurchers the dog im taking about will never see the lamp he has no need but u agree he brings a lot to the table lurcher wise he feets are great ! Stamina is unreal literally doesn't stop all day ! He's a nice dog to have around not everyone cup of tea but he's a massive part of my hunting and couldn't be with out the big b*****d now

 

Yes pal I have a fell hound lurcher and I have seen the hound crosses on the lamp in short the hound cross brings amazing stamina, great drive and feet they are solid dogs built to work the British countryside and another thing the fell hounds are controlled by voice so they can't be too daft either!

 

I suppose that is everything a gundog could bring but in a running frame. What about voice though?

 

none have made a peep mate would never of bred out of the origional if it yapped your right maybe a gundog could bring that to the table but there isn't a gundog in the world that could keep with a fell hound at work and I'm not knocking gun dogs they have good qualities pal. I think gundogs could offer a bit of refinement to some lurchers with manners and solid retrieval....but there not really proven on all game.

 

Ive never bred a lurcher using gundog or hound,but I think if I was going to try it I would chance the fell hound over gundog for those reasons you have given. I think you should deffo write an article for the C/W or at least a letter to reply to D.Hancock

 

I might do mate, I did ask my uncle to as he saw all the same things a long time ago, but he told me to lol

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I've spent many enjoyable days out with hounds, around 60 packs all over Britain but mostly with fell hounds. Many hounds won't take a fox single handed and the ones that do are often bred out of stock that did. So I'm assuming a lot of thought goes into picking the hound blood in a lurcher mix. I'd like to see a hound cross, hounds have the best noses so they could be my ideal lurcher cross but as we all know theres more to putting game in the bag than just nose and stamina.

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I can't tell you about how to choose hounds to breed from but I have see a F1 dragged across a field by a large fallow doe and the dog cling hold and over power power it and found a massive gauge on the inside of the dogs quarter and it didn't flinch, and I've see it destroy charlie many a time, and give it it's all every run working to heal and retrieve very well thats all i can say for the cross. ATB S2H

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Sounds good. I've not bothered with deer and only bumped into the odd fox. Rats and rabbits were my quarry. Have you taken your dog onto the fells? I'd imagine that's where it would show its nose to the full.

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I find it funny when you hear lads saying that they own labs and spaniels that kill foxes ...I had a lad say that many years ago and I give him the oppertunity to show me ...lets just say the dog didn't want to know and if a dog of that type was to catch old Charlie it would of been a very poor specimen for the dog to catch it in the first place

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Sounds good. I've not bothered with deer and only bumped into the odd fox. Rats and rabbits were my quarry. Have you taken your dog onto the fells? I'd imagine that's where it would show its nose to the

Maybe a 3/4 whippet 1/4 spaniel might turn out ok for stuff like that.

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I find it funny when you hear lads saying that they own labs and spaniels that kill foxes ...I had a lad say that many years ago and I give him the oppertunity to show me ...lets just say the dog didn't want to know and if a dog of that type was to catch old Charlie it would of been a very poor specimen for the dog to catch it in the first place

good point old reynard has a way of disapearing - even with a well bred flying machine after him.

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Sounds good. I've not bothered with deer and only bumped into the odd fox. Rats and rabbits were my quarry. Have you taken your dog onto the fells? I'd imagine that's where it would show its nose to the

 

Maybe a 3/4 whippet 1/4 spaniel might turn out ok for stuff like that.

The gwp cross is the dog for me, I wouldn't have kept them for so long otherwise.

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Sounds good. I've not bothered with deer and only bumped into the odd fox. Rats and rabbits were my quarry. Have you taken your dog onto the fells? I'd imagine that's where it would show its nose to the

 

Maybe a 3/4 whippet 1/4 spaniel might turn out ok for stuff like that.

Depends on the ground cover, the gwp x will be taller so can fly over taller cover better and also not be unsighted on day time quarry,

A cocker x ,or small springer x,I would thought may struggle in tall set aside or on high ground up country ,

I await the angry replies from spaniel Lurcher owners lol

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Sounds good. I've not bothered with deer and only bumped into the odd fox. Rats and rabbits were my quarry. Have you taken your dog onto the fells? I'd imagine that's where it would show its nose to the

Maybe a 3/4 whippet 1/4 spaniel might turn out ok for stuff like that.

Depends on the ground cover, the gwp x will be taller so can fly over taller cover better and also not be unsighted on day time quarry,

A cocker x ,or small springer x,I would thought may struggle in tall set aside or on high ground up country ,

I await the angry replies from spaniel Lurcher owners lol

 

Yes your probs right I would imagine the GWP X would have more fire in it's belly as well.