gnasher16 30,455 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 There's a difference between backing off and regrouping and running. That was running.Is there a distance your allowed to go like?He got out the road, took a breather. If Nate thought he was running scared he should have chased him and finished him. I wonder why he didn't? Because it's not a running race. Points scored on octagon control if you can stand in the centre and have a man run away scared to engage why Chase him. Like you say tho there should be a point where a certain amount of running sees a point deduction. These ground guys are constantly taking breathers the only difference is they do it on the ground........do they get a point taken no they just get stood up......and quite often they are on the ground taking 2 and 3 minute breathers not 2 or 3 seconds like the stand up guys do. If they are not working they get stood up. But they are still controlling the fight. Somebody running is not controlling anything What do you think takes up more energy running or just laying in a clinch ?.......ring generalship and knowledge in taking breathers is the same whether you are on your feet or on the ground its just easier to get away with it on the ground. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lusitano 294 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Lads let's not forget that the reason McGregor is going uphill with the weight is because of his big ego and gob and nothing else... McGregor is 2-3 inches taller than anyone in the division he is a CH in, Same could be said that the other fighters in that division are fighting a bigger man that cuts a Faire bit of weight to fight at 145lbs. As I've already said the fight should have been stopped in the 3rd round, the running away and grabbing was like watching what mayweather did for years in boxing! A joke! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Lads let's not forget that the reason McGregor is going uphill with the weight is because of his big ego and gob and nothing else... McGregor is 2-3 inches taller than anyone in the division he is a CH in, Same could be said that the other fighters in that division are fighting a bigger man that cuts a Faire bit of weight to fight at 145lbs. As I've already said the fight should have been stopped in the 3rd round, the running away and grabbing was like watching what mayweather did for years in boxing! A joke! One of the worlds greatest boxers......Ill leave it there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted August 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Lads let's not forget that the reason McGregor is going uphill with the weight is because of his big ego and gob and nothing else... McGregor is 2-3 inches taller than anyone in the division he is a CH in, Same could be said that the other fighters in that division are fighting a bigger man that cuts a Faire bit of weight to fight at 145lbs. As I've already said the fight should have been stopped in the 3rd round, the running away and grabbing was like watching what mayweather did for years in boxing! A joke!actually mcgregors normal weight is 160 pounds, that walking about not training, an his big gob got him all his doe mate, nate diaz walking around weight is 190/200, so you see were im going. Edited August 22, 2016 by Francie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flipbull 1,139 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Anyone wanting links for their chosen sport to watch just type in top 10 sports streaming websites ya lazy b@stards ha or get an openbox, kodie box etc you only need to pay for Broadband once you got the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lusitano 294 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Yes great boxer... Not a great fighter, has received much criticism over the years for not engaging, grabbing and moving away and because of that will never be held up there with the true greats! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lusitano 294 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Rusty - What??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dymented 2,220 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 https://www.(!64.56:886/BrutalFightVideo/videos/598715293668374/ if you haven't seen the full fight here you go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,455 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Lads let's not forget that the reason McGregor is going uphill with the weight is because of his big ego and gob and nothing else... McGregor is 2-3 inches taller than anyone in the division he is a CH in, Same could be said that the other fighters in that division are fighting a bigger man that cuts a Faire bit of weight to fight at 145lbs. As I've already said the fight should have been stopped in the 3rd round, the running away and grabbing was like watching what mayweather did for years in boxing! A joke!actually mcgregors normal weight is 160 pounds, that walking about not training, an his big gob got him all his doe mate, nate diaz walking around weight is 190/200, so you see were im going.I doubt diaz is as high as that. That was rumours from mcgregors camp diaz said he was walking around about 177. Where folk get he is a massive guy is beyond me it's just an excuse for mcgregor fans. The reason the fight was at welterweight was because nate came off the couch with ten days to weigh in and made 170 comfortably. He's a 155lb fighter look at him in the michael johnson fight great shape. Off the couch is not literally off the couch like it was years ago professional fighters just dont get out of shape anymore even in maintenance shape they are still in the gym most days if a normal human being had to prepare for a fight from scratch in 10 days they would barely last 60 seconds but fighters have a naturally high level of fitness meaning the circle of work/recovery gains are that much quicker......Diaz probably has around a 12/13 lb advantage in actual body composition in the way it relates to athletic structure over Mcgregor......knowing a little bit about athletic conditioning i always like to study a fighter both on the scales and in the ring and it was obvious to me that Mcgregor actually looked smaller in the ring than he did on the scales !......both lads looked full and healthy on the scales but the fact Diaz actually weighed over the limit ( why he wasnt made to take the weight off kind of defeats the object of a weigh in ) suggests he was cutting weight to a degree so the true advantage he had during the fight was probably up close to the 12/13 lb estimated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted August 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Well put gnash, you know what your saying. Roles reversed, if nate went up two weight classes, do you think hed be at a disadvantage? Not aimed at you gnash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted August 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 At the end of the day, the two had full camps, no excuses, an commor won, suck it up lads, lol Plus mcgregs is only 28, his game will get better imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Did nobody else notice that the "running away" from Diaz was allowing McGregor to come in landing leg kicks time and time again. Plus it was winding Diaz up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I find it strange to criticise mcgregors tactics in this fight, he changed what he had to to get the win against a bigger man who is extremely tough with excellent stamina. Mcgregor does lack a bit of wind imo and required a bit of a breather here and there, he would have been stupid not do that and it is entirely legal. Also it is not like he ran away for the whole fight. I thought he was stupid to take the first Diaz fight which he could have demanded at 155, which is the weight he was preparing to fight dos anjos at, and would have put Diaz at a huge disadvantage but he took 170 and it cost him big time. He avenged that in a TOUGH battle and still cops criticism. Fair enough if you don't like the lad but credit where it is due... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Agree totally! He never ran away once, he did however manage to get even more under the skin of Diaz while being able to get a breathe and deliver more leg kicks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 It's Diaz turn too dig deeper into the box next time n come up with better game plan , I've only watched a handful of ufc, seen first one of these fights n too be fair mcgregor learned from his first due fall with Nate, didn't like the running avoiding whatever but it bought him the time rest n range be needed too keep the advantage he takes up early doors, one round longer n I think Diaz would win all day long imho he looked worse than Connor but think he more durable n dangerous Third fight I'm actually looking forward too ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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