ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 On 23/08/2016 at 23:08, Silversnake said: You are doing the exact same thing whatever ragumup answers you will say he can't possibly know as much as db or some other illiterate goat herder like him. And all the while muslims keep raping and killing. And db reckons Aussies are dumb,i never talk myself up like you and him constantly do but I am smart enough to see through your smokescreens i just dont understand why you would bother. Talk myself up? I'm the biggest f**king muppet on here. Okay... I'll put this as simply as I can before I f**k off to work, for the rest of the week. We've established that whatever is posted that makes islam/muslims look shit, is true? Correct?We've established that whenever a muslim attempts to explain anything they're either misrepresenting the scriptures, or outright lying? Correct?There is one poster on here that probably has a bit more insider knowledge than most? Correct?You'll all call him out before he even has a chance at a rebuttal, and we'll see a random video posted that may or may not mean anything at all? Correct? No answer given will be sufficient explanation, to work on your preconceived bias. Any answer given will have him called out as a liar. So as this thread is going the same way as pretty much any other religious thread, and it's late, and there's nothing on the telly. I just don't understand why you bother, either. Anything that agrees with you is truth. Anything that disagrees is false. And a million posts later we're all still flinging shit at each other to see how much of it sticks. Correct? Admit it! You're having just as much fun as we are! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) On 23/08/2016 at 23:20, jacknife said: Wrong saying i wouldn't read DB rebuttal to Dr Bill Warners interpretation........that was the question i asked in the first place for someone to point out what is wrong in what Warners said Couldn't say whether i would believe though take one person word against another...........When it comes to that religion theres to many interpretations So i trust no Muslim At least your honest, mate. But if you're not going to agree with a rebuttal then I doubt anyone is going to do one, and spend the time typing it up for you not to read it? Wouldn't you agree? Edited August 23, 2016 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 On 23/08/2016 at 23:20, jacknife said: Wrong saying i wouldn't read DB rebuttal to Dr Bill Warners interpretation........that was the question i asked in the first place for someone to point out what is wrong in what Warners said Couldn't say whether i would believe it though.......Maybe there both right When it comes to that religion theres to many interpretationsSo i trust no Muslim This is getting really confusing, we've got you saying there's countless interpretations of Islam and ragumup who's on the same side as you saying there's no interpretations and the word of Mohammed is all that counts, which is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 On 23/08/2016 at 23:43, BGD said: On 23/08/2016 at 23:20, jacknife said: Wrong saying i wouldn't read DB rebuttal to Dr Bill Warners interpretation........that was the question i asked in the first place for someone to point out what is wrong in what Warners said Couldn't say whether i would believe it though.......Maybe there both right When it comes to that religion theres to many interpretationsSo i trust no Muslim This is getting really confusing, we've got you saying there's countless interpretations of Islam and ragumup who's on the same side as you saying there's no interpretations and the word of Mohammed is all that counts, which is it? Its not some club or team with sides But my personal opinion on Muslims Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 On 24/08/2016 at 00:00, jacknife said: On 23/08/2016 at 23:43, BGD said: On 23/08/2016 at 23:20, jacknife said: Wrong saying i wouldn't read DB rebuttal to Dr Bill Warners interpretation........that was the question i asked in the first place for someone to point out what is wrong in what Warners said Couldn't say whether i would believe it though.......Maybe there both right When it comes to that religion theres to many interpretationsSo i trust no Muslim This is getting really confusing, we've got you saying there's countless interpretations of Islam and ragumup who's on the same side as you saying there's no interpretations and the word of Mohammed is all that counts, which is it? Its not some club or team with sides But my personal opinion on Muslims Sides of the debate pal, no one mentioned clubs or teams. Try engaging your brain before replying Just interesting that two people who seem to agree on everything else regarding Islam disagree on such a fundamental point, I mean there being different interpretations of Islam makes it hard to condemn all Muslims based on the actions of a few I would have thought. Surely you'd have to find out whether they share the same interpretation of Islam before you can lump them in together? Otherwise it'd be like condemning Southern Baptists based on the actions of Catholics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 On 23/08/2016 at 23:29, ChrisJones said: On 23/08/2016 at 23:08, Silversnake said: You are doing the exact same thing whatever ragumup answers you will say he can't possibly know as much as db or some other illiterate goat herder like him. And all the while muslims keep raping and killing. And db reckons Aussies are dumb,i never talk myself up like you and him constantly do but I am smart enough to see through your smokescreens i just dont understand why you would bother. Talk myself up? I'm the biggest f**king muppet on here. Okay... I'll put this as simply as I can before I f**k off to work, for the rest of the week. We've established that whatever is posted that makes islam/muslims look shit, is true? Correct?We've established that whenever a muslim attempts to explain anything they're either misrepresenting the scriptures, or outright lying? Correct?There is one poster on here that probably has a bit more insider knowledge than most? Correct?You'll all call him out before he even has a chance at a rebuttal, and we'll see a random video posted that may or may not mean anything at all? Correct?No answer given will be sufficient explanation, to work on your preconceived bias. Any answer given will have him called out as a liar. So as this thread is going the same way as pretty much any other religious thread, and it's late, and there's nothing on the telly. I just don't understand why you bother, either. Anything that agrees with you is truth. Anything that disagrees is false. And a million posts later we're all still flinging shit at each other to see how much of it sticks. Correct? Admit it! You're having just as much fun as we are! The things you have established are not very accurate and worded in a way to make people sound racist. My main issue is the problems caused by muslims, no interpretations from a biased, dull brained and insignificant goat herder like desertbred is going to fix the problem. I just like getting on these forums and giving my solution, which is banning islam. If someone can give me a better option I would endorse it. It worked for the Spanish before and as they say history repeats... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) On 24/08/2016 at 00:50, Silversnake said: The things you have established are not very accurate and worded in a way to make people sound racist. You're damn right they're not accurate but that's the way information is treated on this forum. If it fits the narrative, then it's truth. If it doesn't, it's a lie. Facts be damned. How can criticism of Islam be racist? Islam isn't a race. Equating the two is ridiculous, and downright dangerous. On 24/08/2016 at 00:50, Silversnake said: My main issue is the problems caused by muslims, no interpretations from a biased, dull brained and insignificant goat herder like desertbred is going to fix the problem. I just like getting on these forums and giving my solution, which is banning islam. If someone can give me a better option I would endorse it. It worked for the Spanish before and as they say history repeats... You didn't ask for his rebuttal. Jacknife and Ragumup did. Neither of them will read it, and neither of them give a shit anyway, because it doesn't fit their rhetoric. But we're all still here! As far as banning Islam goes, I agree with you. Do Christianity, while you're at it. In fact any other god bothering crackpot collective! That is never going to happen though, so your magic solution is a terrible pipe dream. It's like the Catholic churches answer to AIDS and teenage pregnancy. Abstinence. The Mormon church's answer to homosexuality. Pray the gay away! Forget tackling the issue with practical workable solutions. Just say ban it! That'll work! Have you seen the news in the last 15 years? You might have noticed that we've not been able to bomb our way out of this one either. Someone earlier said something about nuking them... I wonder what kind of refugee crisis that would cause? I can't possibly imagine what that would do for radicalisation? You want a sensible, workable solution to Islamic extremism? Are you genuinely interested in fixing the problem, like you claim? This is the best option. Support these people. They know way more about this shit than any one of the self appointed experts on this forum. Me included. Quilliam Foundation Still not sure? Shell out a bit of change and read this book... Islam And The Future Of Tolerance by Maajid Nawaz & Sam Harris Now it certainly doesn't fit the THL narrative, so I'm quietly confident that very few people will even bother with the link. That would be a shame though because it is the only realistic option that the west has today. Or we could just keep posting obscure videos, and continue to fling shit at each other... But hey why not? It's been fun so far! Catch you kids at the weekend, Uncle Chris has to pay some bills! Edited August 24, 2016 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 I'll try make even simpler ...Mohammad is the only Muslim who speaks for Islam if he did it or said it its Islam if he didn't it isn't ,the last people you ask are Muslims they are ment to lie unless it's ex Muslim of course , Quilliam need to be told they are talking to a brick wall with the Islamist so it will go no where and the islamisation of the west will continue just like it did in the other 50 plus countries already conquer by Islam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Some fckers on here like to argue for arguments sake, like a fckin playground. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,893 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 On 24/08/2016 at 07:13, johnny boy68 said: Some fckers on here like to argue for arguments sake, like a fckin playground. that all depends on how you interpret it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 But there is only one interpretation according to you clowns . The Quilliam Foundation the same foundation Tommy Robinson left EDL to join to get a veneer of respectability once he realised they were a much use as him guess what he left The THL think tank dig bigger and bigger holes for themselves and what is their solution? to ask for a bigger shovel or another Tyre on a rope after they have cut their tree down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 On 24/08/2016 at 00:11, BGD said: On 24/08/2016 at 00:00, jacknife said: On 23/08/2016 at 23:43, BGD said: On 23/08/2016 at 23:20, jacknife said: Wrong saying i wouldn't read DB rebuttal to Dr Bill Warners interpretation........that was the question i asked in the first place for someone to point out what is wrong in what Warners said Couldn't say whether i would believe it though.......Maybe there both right When it comes to that religion theres to many interpretationsSo i trust no Muslim This is getting really confusing, we've got you saying there's countless interpretations of Islam and ragumup who's on the same side as you saying there's no interpretations and the word of Mohammed is all that counts, which is it? Its not some club or team with sides But my personal opinion on Muslims Sides of the debate pal, no one mentioned clubs or teams. Try engaging your brain before replying Just interesting that two people who seem to agree on everything else regarding Islam disagree on such a fundamental point, I mean there being different interpretations of Islam makes it hard to condemn all Muslims based on the actions of a few I would have thought. Surely you'd have to find out whether they share the same interpretation of Islam before you can lump them in together? Otherwise it'd be like condemning Southern Baptists based on the actions of Catholics. Maybe I'm wrong maybe there is only one interpretation of Islam But it doesn't matter to me as I dislike all of them so I will lump them all together We keep hearing thing from the muslim religion like......those who leave can be killed and I'm yet to hear any muslim come out and deny these things Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Both those links came up blank, but I will have a look. The only successful solution I have heard is to ban islam or absolutely crush them like genocide. I never try to endorse violence so I would rather ban it in places, like islam free zones just on national or even continental level. As I said if I consider another option better I will endorse it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,918 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 On 22/08/2016 at 08:34, desertbred said: On 21/08/2016 at 20:32, All-terrain said: On 21/08/2016 at 20:08, ragumup said: On 20/08/2016 at 19:39, ChrisJones said: I'm sure there are cases where it's real. But there's many more where you're watching propaganda footage, and even that is heavily edited and taken out of context. If watch clips like this and it makes your piss boil, then congratulations you're part of their experiment. Taken out of context lol that's what Islamic apologists always say , if you knew sharia law then you would know it was real. image.jpeg A list compiled by Islamaphobes. Muslim women fighting alongside males in Syria but they are not allowed to talk to males who are not relatives LOL Muslim women are not allowed to drive cars yet even in Wahabi Saudia they fly commercial airliners and F17 fighter planes. Death to Muslim women who marry nom Muslims just two .examples George Cloonies Wife and THE female Muslim Joutnalist AliBhai Brown who is London based I could should I have the time to waste or the inclination refute every single statement on the list but as I get amusement from reading such knuckle draggers submissions crack on. LOL the journalist alibhai brown might have married a non muslim but you would not let your daughter marry a non muslim. rather hypercritical to give alibhai brown as an example of a muslim womens freedom to marry who she likes when you don't afford your own daughters the same freedom 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 On 24/08/2016 at 09:59, greg64 said: On 22/08/2016 at 08:34, desertbred said: On 21/08/2016 at 20:32, All-terrain said: On 21/08/2016 at 20:08, ragumup said: On 20/08/2016 at 19:39, ChrisJones said: I'm sure there are cases where it's real. But there's many more where you're watching propaganda footage, and even that is heavily edited and taken out of context. If watch clips like this and it makes your piss boil, then congratulations you're part of their experiment. Taken out of context lol that's what Islamic apologists always say , if you knew sharia law then you would know it was real. image.jpeg A list compiled by Islamaphobes. Muslim women fighting alongside males in Syria but they are not allowed to talk to males who are not relatives LOL Muslim women are not allowed to drive cars yet even in Wahabi Saudia they fly commercial airliners and F17 fighter planes. Death to Muslim women who marry nom Muslims just two .examples George Cloonies Wife and THE female Muslim Joutnalist AliBhai Brown who is London based I could should I have the time to waste or the inclination refute every single statement on the list but as I get amusement from reading such knuckle draggers submissions crack on. LOL the journalist alibhai brown might have married a non muslim but you would not let your daughter marry a non muslim. rather hypercritical to give alibhai brown as an example of a muslim womens freedom to marry who she likes when you don't afford your own daughters the same freedom Cant you read English? some one stated that Muslim women who married Non Muslim males "would" be killed I gave two high profile names who have done just that and are still alive . Nothing to do with Me or my Daughter and what I do, now tell me how that makes me a Hypocrite you are really lacking in grey matter arent you just. clutching at straws go play with the Tyre. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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