gwalchmai4110 1,758 Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 God I hate cows..good post mate..not bothered bywith the sheep at all are they...spot on yeh bloody cattle are right pain, more so when they got young with them , triggs pup was very good with the stock , when by the sheep he was very laid back, but feckin mad with Buck , he kept biting his tail .lol Buck flattened him few times lol, but he is a game little bugger , he coming on great, was very nice walk again in nice weather , it changing friday wet and bit colder .!! He's game because he likes playing you thought any more about what we spoke about the other day owain? i know your thinking of lining "rose" with buck if all goes to plan in the future?they would make a nice mix ounce rose has a good few seasons under her! would you not consider putting buck over the old girl owes? atb He was saying the same to me mate, he thinks the size+power of Buck is just what his stuff needs. Plus fast+agile with it. yep thats it mate! they would make some pups! its the temperament as well id say........with buck being a "big softie" as ray put it but then having the gameness and drive! would be some serious animals. also add good feet to owains line! 2 Quote Link to post
frankel 2,123 Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 How fast is Buck compared to other crosses? Say compared to bull x, saluki x, collie x??? Never seen a type like Buck run before, so just curious. Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,578 Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 How fast is Buck compared to other crosses? Say compared to bull x, saluki x, collie x??? Never seen a type like Buck run before, so just curious. Very fast for his size bud and agile with it 3 Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 How fast is Buck compared to other crosses? Say compared to bull x, saluki x, collie x??? Never seen a type like Buck run before, so just curious. Jamie... you would be shocked at how easy the big bear catches bunnies mate. Quote Link to post
frankel 2,123 Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 How fast is Buck compared to other crosses? Say compared to bull x, saluki x, collie x??? Never seen a type like Buck run before, so just curious. Jamie... you would be shocked at how easy the big bear catches bunnies mate. hes an interesting dog, would like to see him work or his type work. Always enjoy watching good dogs work. Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 How fast is Buck compared to other crosses? Say compared to bull x, saluki x, collie x??? Never seen a type like Buck run before, so just curious. Jamie... you would be shocked at how easy the big bear catches bunnies mate. hes an interesting dog, would like to see him work or his type work. Always enjoy watching good dogs work. I'm sure ray or trigger would be happy to show you mate.. Your long overdue a trip out with me and the big man... say eyup to yer dad for me. Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,343 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 The thing with the xs alsation many till they see for the resells find it hard to believe but in reality it's a no brainier the spine length and suppleness from working aalsations ,one only needs a bit of grey and yas on a winner plus the fact of height and style of running which his motto dissimilar has so sals I believe it's good taser that other enthusiasts can see that Buck needs to be used on there stuff he will add lots a qualities to a scatter bred line of lurchers and any type for that matter.atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 The thing with the xs alsation many till they see for the resells find it hard to believe but in reality it's a no brainier the spine length and suppleness from working aalsations ,one only needs a bit of grey and yas on a winner plus the fact of height and style of running which his motto dissimilar has so sals I believe it's good taser that other enthusiasts can see that Buck needs to be used on there stuff he will add lots a qualities to a scatter bred line of lurchers and any type for that matter.atb bunnys. I'm surprised none of the protection dog breeders have not used Buck to straighten out there lines and add a bit of size and speed into there lines...fekk the pedigrees and get some decent genetics back into the breed,stop all this hip problems and slopey backed shite we see all the time. Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) no disrespect to the x as seen this x in late 80s and was a useful cross thou not my type . but what as this particular dog done apart from been made a legend on here to justify breeding from ? Edited August 19, 2016 by DEERMAN 1 Quote Link to post
HPR 1,161 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Nowt worse than the smell of fusty badger shit Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,201 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Nowt worse than the smell of fusty badger shit tell me about it. washed the dog off when i got home and you can still smell the fecker today. Quote Link to post
Moja 111 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 The thing with the xs alsation many till they see for the resells find it hard to believe but in reality it's a no brainier the spine length and suppleness from working aalsations ,one only needs a bit of grey and yas on a winner plus the fact of height and style of running which his motto dissimilar has so sals I believe it's good taser that other enthusiasts can see that Buck needs to be used on there stuff he will add lots a qualities to a scatter bred line of lurchers and any type for that matter.atb bunnys. I'm surprised none of the protection dog breeders have not used Buck to straighten out there lines and add a bit of size and speed into there lines...fekk the pedigrees and get some decent genetics back into the breed,stop all this hip problems and slopey backed shite we see all the time. I always said that to Ray, he'd be a great starting point to straighten out them slopped types... I like Buck personally admittedly I like him across a nice sal x for my own personally work plus I really think the collie/sal/collie mix well and it the type I keep so in-realty be a bigger type than the type I keep now which suit me... How big and weight is he again Ray ? Lol Quote Link to post
bird 10,013 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 no disrespect to the x as seen this x in late 80s and was a useful cross thou not my type . but what as this particular dog done apart from been made a legend on here to justify breeding from ? suppose no more than most 4 year old lurchers that's done a bit , the reason i went for this x for, was that i wanted lurcher similar to a colliex, but more fire in it belly , and as yet Buck took every thing he been put on . i think a gsd x grey deff got more drive in it than collie xs, ive had 4 collie x s over the years and not 1 as been as good as Buck, Bryn my collie x as been great rabbit dog but that it, Buck caught as many rabbits as Bryn, but is more than just a rabbit dog. people have asked about Bryn over the years as a stud, but he never lined a bitche. ive always said that Buck was the better of the 2, and if they wanted to use a dog Buck would be my 1st choice . Buck will be my last big working lurcher, as i am getting older now lol, so if i ever had another in future , it would be a small type lurcher 22-23in size . something like him at that size would be spot on, but it prob 4 years down the line for the future . Quote Link to post
shaaark 11,001 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 He seems to be doing well for the purpose you got him for. But aint he too tall and too big?! Lol. As I've said in the past, a few times actually, when people drone on about dogs being too tall etc, as long as a taller type retains good balance and coordination, it's going to be of more use than a smaller dog. I'm not referring to ferreting Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,343 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 This post interesting ,and Bucks xs are what they are and really are a specialist type dog marmite the word some may say ,but heavy edible his there thing having imence power plus decent speed in the f1 out sing to sals and other types I have seen a few and they all did a job and for those who like the next generation on say to a coursing type they are the ticket one can acquire strong running types with a splash of alsation . Has Ray says sames has collie but Different.the bite they can deliver his very effective, they cannot be compared to some terrier type lurchers for they are what they are but then again a good male type can put a decent show on some teeth not all but mostly preban reds.the introduction off bull I believe gets thee the the malli type same but different again ,all this knowledge his first hand seeing the types work and there xes ,I know of the small bull whippet grey xs the the malli grey and watching the second mating of this type and they are bone hard but only middle weights,in all probability Buck going back coursing type will give very surprising Welps they strongly made and for those who strive for high threshold in pain barrier drop abit good line bred bull blood. mostly aalsations bred for work ta day are bred hip and elbow scored animals and are very very different than the English show bred type often referred two ,these are a different breed feck knows what I would say . Monstrosities,there are lots of ueropean working aalsations now being bred for work in the uk and there physics backs hips etc are very healthy, Atb bunnys Quote Link to post
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