neil cooney 10,416 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 The very talk of sand sends shivers down my spine. I hate and fear the stuff, but, as lads said on here before some folk have no choice but to work their terriers in it. Even when there's no accidents the terriers eyes need a lot of TLC. Fatman, what I meant was that if you've used a locator to mark the terrier then you've no need to sink a bar. If you are using the bar to get the mark then there is no possible way to get the bar down behind the terrier first time, and maybe the second and third time too. I think it's fairly agreed that the finding bar can be a valuable tool when needed but dangerous when used unnecessarily . Like everything else, the day you leave it at home is the day you'll need it. Like what happened me last year. Stuck at a quarry but thankfully was only a few mile from home. The last time I cursed bars on this forum the majority of lads dis-agreed with me. This time most comments are from British lads (last time most were Irish) so it's funny how methods can vary. 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Yes the sand is horrible stuff. Lovely to dig in but that's it! Smothers a lot of dogs and does untold damage to their eyes. 1 Quote Link to post
bull mcabe 595 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 It beggers belief that dogs are hurt on the breakthrough ,never seen it happen in any shape or form . it takes a few seconds to hear what's occurring and where when your about to go through .Totally beyond my comprehension . Well said foxdropper I agree. Anyone who injures a dog on breaking through should not be on the other end of the shovel and probably not anywhere near a dig in my opinion. I can't actually believe those stories of people maiming dogs or game with finding bars or shovels and grafts. 3 Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Shotgun. Wouldn't fancy being found digging with only 2 large bull terriers to dispatch quarry. Cheeky shit! I'll only have one large bull terrier and a little black terrier! She's gonna fit! 1 Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 But on a serious level, what are the other options aside from fac to remain within the law. I can't get one Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,250 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 You need to arse muff someone who owns one lol .atb dc 2 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 JMHO but when someone is asked "what do I need to get into terrierwork" regarding kit and someone replies "a good coat and boots" then to me that means they're thinking of themselves and not the terrier, quarry and a successful dig. A good locator on your terrier and good tools that allow you to get down to your terrier quickly (and most terriermen have a favourite shovel just as a brickie has a favourite trowel) and a safe way of dispatching your quarry are first and foremost the important things. Vehicles, trailers and the latest boots from Norway don't make you a terriermen. But on the subject of boots ,proper terriermen wear Fell boots. 5 Quote Link to post
MIK 4,756 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Its not a case of buy all the gear and youre all of a sudden a seasoned terrierman. Get out and about with your dogs, attend a few local shows and gradually everything will fall into place if youre seen as genuine and decent. I hope you do stick at it and enjoy the game for what it is but you cant rush the job. I've seen that many lads buy all the gear and then sell it again a few month down the line that I've lost count. Feck me I know one lad that has done it about 4 times over. Buy all the gear, sell it when the next hobbie comes along and so on and so on. I've not heard of that lad for a while now 2 Quote Link to post
MIK 4,756 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Neil ,can you explain the importance of a finding bar .Never owned one ,never will but I know lads who won't leave home without one.[/quoteI do have one but it's usually used to tether the terrier to.... Quote Link to post
Haiddheliwr 1,911 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 I totally agree with you neil.! But as I said previously leave the dogs who are still pups learn about life first, there is so much enjoyment to be had bringing them on and plenty of time to think of tools when the time comes. ATB 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Its not a case of buy all the gear and youre all of a sudden a seasoned terrierman. Get out and about with your dogs, attend a few local shows and gradually everything will fall into place if youre seen as genuine and decent. I hope you do stick at it and enjoy the game for what it is but you cant rush the job. I've seen that many lads buy all the gear and then sell it again a few month down the line that I've lost count. Feck me I know one lad that has done it about 4 times over. Buy all the gear, sell it when the next hobbie comes along and so on and so on. I've not heard of that lad for a while now Well I haven't spoken to him for over 4 years again so the cycle must be due to come around again... 2 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Its not a case of buy all the gear and youre all of a sudden a seasoned terrierman. Get out and about with your dogs, attend a few local shows and gradually everything will fall into place if youre seen as genuine and decent. I hope you do stick at it and enjoy the game for what it is but you cant rush the job. I've seen that many lads buy all the gear and then sell it again a few month down the line that I've lost count. Feck me I know one lad that has done it about 4 times over. Buy all the gear, sell it when the next hobbie comes along and so on and so on. I've not heard of that lad for a while now We both had the same thought Mik ! 1 Quote Link to post
chilli 381 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 The best bit of kit to my mind is patience 3 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 Clean pants in case you get run over 2 Quote Link to post
onion jonny 526 Posted August 14, 2016 Report Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) .. Edited August 14, 2016 by onion jonny Quote Link to post
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