Fox Dogs/all Rounders

[roybo 2,873]

Depends on what the owner wants from the pups .

Should any lurcher with bull or wheaten or breeds that are expected to take sharp game, be bred from if they don't take fox? Depends on the owner

[Moja 111]

Some of the best catch dogs Iv seen have been lighter more nimble types, Diffrent dogs have different styles so wait for a strike other grab any where.. Most just expect them to take them like a half x bull gh anything other that no good lacks heart ect the fast killer I ever seen was a 29" deerhound/gh type one bite across the back shoulders and dropped dead fox as quick as that, say do would always wait for same strike and hated taking any form of stick back missed more than he took and after a few started just running them, best maybe a sal/gh/whip type never seen one till he was about 2 and half and just went from strength to strength great alround catch dog and quick finisher, then another little bitch that sticks in my is a sal/bull/gh decent bitch another good catch type and and a great knack as a chest killer. They've never been my thing and most if not all mine where never proper fox takers

[billhardy 2,342]

For what it's worth bull types Wheaton types that dither around Charlie need culling simples for flecks sake we talking animas bred for teeth better other types for edible .atb bunnys.

[roybo 2,873]

I'd agree to a point but what if fox. Ain't your quarry? and you have one of the said breeds that does well on everything that you take? Is it a cull ? What if it was a wheaten Saluki grey beddy whippet (for instance) does that still hold true?

[billhardy 2,342]

I'd agree to a point but what if fox. Ain't your quarry? and you have one of the said breeds that does well on everything that you take? Is it a cull ? What if it was a wheaten Saluki grey beddy whippet (for instance) does that still hold true?

ta me that would be just a run of the mill mixed bred lurcher.atb bunnys

[Moja 111]

Roy that's fine in my eyes, you've a dog that suits you on all quarry you want why can't you then breed of it... It's been honest and if a lads shows an intrest in say a pup you just tell him they ain't single handed dogs on the said quarry and truthful, mate of mine has a weaton/bull/gh x beddy/gh/whip type thing strongish bitch 24"/25" to look at her you'd think no problem but she won't got bit and come back screaming, but my mates happy with her for everything else and he's taking taking litter of her next spring cause she ticks the boxes for him and to me their nothing wrong with that imo

[roybo 2,873]

OK ...probably not the best example mate.

Let's say you have a lurcher with a lump of bull or wheaten in there and it took all game well except fox ,would it be worthy of breeding from ?

I personally wouldn't want to try it ,but I can see why others would that was my point.

[Guest edrd]

No many allrounders on here ?

Edited August 7, 2016 by edrd

[MIK 4,763]

But why do some do other quarry & not do too well on fox, baffles me.

Why?

[Wales1234 5,542]

 

But why do some do other quarry & not do too well on fox, baffles me.

Why?

Because when a fox bites a dog It bloody hurts you even been bitten cause I have and it ain't nice !

[lurcherman 887 13,181]

I been bitten by a ferret and I nearly jacked lol

 

Me goldfinch bit me once and that hurt

[DEERMAN 1,020]

I'd agree to a point but what if fox. Ain't your quarry? and you have one of the said breeds that does well on everything that you take? Is it a cull ? What if it was a wheaten Saluki grey beddy whippet (for instance) does that still hold true?

if a heavy blooded bull x don't take fox its a cur and should never be bred from simple as in my books , if it has 5 other breeds in it its just a scatter bred cur and for what i like same applies Edited August 7, 2016 by DEERMAN

[Daniel cain 45,656]

A lurcher should be every calibre of bullet you should ever need imo-a dog that only does one thing is about as useful as having brewers droop in a brothel.atb dc

[straight2hand 303]

All depends on the owners standards! If you have a dog bred to take everything and it doesn't could you live with it? Could you put up with a dog that didn't retrieve or couldn't jump? For me if the dog didn't like charlie but it excelled in other areas you might still work it but I wouldn't be interested in breeding from it. For me to breed from a dog it would have to be consistently doing what you want it to do because (excuse the pun) it could bite you the arse later on.

[morton 5,368]

Right lads bear with me, what was the best fox dog you saw? Which way bred & type? (Racy, heavy etc?)

There were a few dogs that did all quarry, but for some reason danced around a fox, makes no sence, what was the best fox dog you saw that would do all quarry also? I've seen a lot of dogs run, & always compare them to my old bitch who was 3/8 5/8 bull grey x grey. Exceptional on fox, also a very good friend had a super racy bullxgrey x wheatenxgrey that would catch 90% of the foxes she was slipped on, very fast bitch, round here the fields aren't big & they're never in the middle so you need a good turn of pace, all pre ban reminiscing

if i owned a genuine Allrounder that swivelled away from fox id not be that bothered,the mutt would be a easier to feed.The best fox dogs ive seen never had Bull and Wheaton in the mix.I don,t like to see a dog cast a lazy eye over a fox,id breed from a dog that cared little for Charlie,id not breed from a dog that could not fill a freezer.