dai dog 11 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Right lads bear with me, what was the best fox dog you saw? Which way bred & type? (Racy, heavy etc?) There were a few dogs that did all quarry, but for some reason danced around a fox, makes no sence, what was the best fox dog you saw that would do all quarry also? I've seen a lot of dogs run, & always compare them to my old bitch who was 3/8 5/8 bull grey x grey. Exceptional on fox, also a very good friend had a super racy bullxgrey x wheatenxgrey that would catch 90% of the foxes she was slipped on, very fast bitch, round here the fields aren't big & they're never in the middle so you need a good turn of pace, all pre ban reminiscing ? Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,542 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Fox dogs come in all shapes and sizes so do all rounders ! My old bitch is heavy but by f**k she can run ! you will get whippets that will kill foxes and 28 inch Bullx that will bark at them it's not the size and weight Of dog it's the hard and drive they got ! Best all rounder Iv seen is a collie bull grey dog he's was some animal and think anyone would be happy to own him ! We all work our dogs different a great dog to one man is a pile of shit to another , when it comes to foxes Iv seen dogs that just passionately hate them and would run though brick walls to get to them ! 3 Quote Link to post
dai dog 11 Posted August 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 But why do some do other quarry & not do too well on fox, baffles me. Quote Link to post
HPR 1,161 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Best dogs I've seen on mixed quarry are saluki bull greys . Mainly a good line bred saluki grey X a good line bred bull grey . 2 Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I'm with you on that one dai. It baffles me too. Wish there was an answer , because it isn't necessarily all about breeding , And as you say some will do Big quarry but not a little fox. A bad experience can knock em back ,but some will be born to do them ,just can't measure it by size or breeds in there. I think if it's in them you can see from the 1st few.they just seem to want it and would pull off anything else for the chance of a go at the sharp end . Shame you can't bottle it . 1 Quote Link to post
sher1 56 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I think it's the speed of reaction from the fox. Dogs are more than likely to get tagged. Where as with other quarry they generally choose where to old. 1 Quote Link to post
straight2hand 303 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 All about entering at the right time and in the best way you can - which can be down to a bit of good luck, but for some reason some dogs get bitten and don't fancy it again even from a proven line or..... they develop a hatred for the things and shake a little harder next time lol. Quote Link to post
bird 9,938 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I think it's the speed of reaction from the fox. Dogs are more than likely to get tagged. Where as with other quarry they generally choose where to old. true, a dog knows that the fox will nail him dead quick, so after few bites from them, they will hold back , same with a deer(stag) that stands its ground and wont run no more, that same dog would hold back on that . the size, or type od dog dont come into it, its if its got the bottle, some dogs born with it,and some are not, its just luck of the draw which pup you pick, you need lot of luck , to get a tough dog that will handle all quarry 3 Quote Link to post
Chid 6,550 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Saluki bull grey... Quote Link to post
straight2hand 303 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I think it's the speed of reaction from the fox. Dogs are more than likely to get tagged. Where as with other quarry they generally choose where to old. true, a dog knows that the fox will nail him dead quick, so after few bites from them, they will hold back , same with a deer(stag) that stands its ground and wont run no more, that same dog would hold back on that . the size, or type od dog dont come into it, its if its got the bottle, some dogs born with it,and some are not, its just luck of the draw which pup you pick, you need lot of luck , to get a tough dog that will handle all quarry Well said, what can really shock me is how laid back or sensitive some lurcher's can seem to be but when they are on the field or put into the big situations on difficult quarry, they just come out of themselves and deliver. Quote Link to post
bird 9,938 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I think it's the speed of reaction from the fox. Dogs are more than likely to get tagged. Where as with other quarry they generally choose where to old. true, a dog knows that the fox will nail him dead quick, so after few bites from them, they will hold back , same with a deer(stag) that stands its ground and wont run no more, that same dog would hold back on that . the size, or type od dog dont come into it, its if its got the bottle, some dogs born with it,and some are not, its just luck of the draw which pup you pick, you need lot of luck , to get a tough dog that will handle all quarry Well said, what can really shock me is how laid back or sensitive some lurcher's can seem to be but when they are on the field or put into the big situations on difficult quarry, they just come out of themselves and deliver. deff mate, my big dog Buck around the house is very quite, great with people and other dogs, very sensitive type temp, but in the field hunting is totally different dog very full on with all quarry , ive got used to him now, but he did shock at 1st Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) I think it's the speed of reaction from the fox. Dogs are more than likely to get tagged. Where as with other quarry they generally choose where to old. true, a dog knows that the fox will nail him dead quick, so after few bites from them, they will hold back , same with a deer(stag) that stands its ground and wont run no more, that same dog would hold back on that . the size, or type od dog dont come into it, its if its got the bottle, some dogs born with it,and some are not, its just luck of the draw which pup you pick, you need lot of luck , to get a tough dog that will handle all quarry Well said, what can really shock me is how laid back or sensitive some lurcher's can seem to be but when they are on the field or put into the big situations on difficult quarry, they just come out of themselves and deliver. [/quote The laid back ones are normally the best type I've found same with people lol .... The laid back ones are always the best ive found The laid back are always the best I've found Edited August 7, 2016 by DEERMAN 1 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,542 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I think it's the speed of reaction from the fox. Dogs are more than likely to get tagged. Where as with other quarry they generally choose where to old. true, a dog knows that the fox will nail him dead quick, so after few bites from them, they will hold back , same with a deer(stag) that stands its ground and wont run no more, that same dog would hold back on that . the size, or type od dog dont come into it, its if its got the bottle, some dogs born with it,and some are not, its just luck of the draw which pup you pick, you need lot of luck , to get a tough dog that will handle all quarry Well said, what can really shock me is how laid back or sensitive some lurcher's can seem to be but when they are on the field or put into the big situations on difficult quarry, they just come out of themselves and deliver. deff mate, my big dog Buck around the house is very quite, great with people and other dogs, very sensitive type temp, but in the field hunting is totally different dog very full on with all quarry , ive got used to him now, but he did shock at 1st I wouldn't keep a dog that couldn't chill out when not hunting be a fecking pain all mine just crash around the house and yard and In the field it's game on ! 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,938 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 I think it's the speed of reaction from the fox. Dogs are more than likely to get tagged. Where as with other quarry they generally choose where to old.true, a dog knows that the fox will nail him dead quick, so after few bites from them, they will hold back , same with a deer(stag) that stands its ground and wont run no more, that same dog would hold back on that . the size, or type od dog dont come into it, its if its got the bottle, some dogs born with it,and some are not, its just luck of the draw which pup you pick, you need lot of luck , to get a tough dog that will handle all quarry Well said, what can really shock me is how laid back or sensitive some lurcher's can seem to be but when they are on the field or put into the big situations on difficult quarry, they just come out of themselves and deliver. deff mate, my big dog Buck around the house is very quite, great with people and other dogs, very sensitive type temp, but in the field hunting is totally different dog very full on with all quarry , ive got used to him now, but he did shock at 1st I wouldn't keep a dog that couldn't chill out when not hunting be a fecking pain all mine just crash around the house and yard and In the field it's game on ! same here 1 Quote Link to post
lurcherman 887 13,181 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 should big luchers, especially with bull in, be bred off, if they dont do fox? Good question don. Id say if there taking other large game and thats what you do then yeah .. Swings and round abouts Quote Link to post
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